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HONGKONG

LEGISLATIVE

COUNCIL.

A meeting of the Hongkong Legislative Council was held on the 7th inst., at the Council Chamber..

The following were present:----

HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR, BIR FREDERICK JOHN DEALTRY LUGARD, C.C.M.G., C.B., D.5.0.

tary.

Hon. Mr. C. SEVERN (Colonial Secre- Hon. Mr. REES DAVIES, K.Ü. (Attorney General.).

Hou, Mr. A. M. THOMSON (Colonial Treasurer.)

Hon Mr. W. CHATHAM, C.M.G. (Direc tor of Public Works).

BAD. Mr. E. R. HALLIFAX (Registrar- General.)

Hon. Captain F. J. BADELEY (Captain Superintendent of Police.)

Hun, Dr. Ho Kл1, M.B., CM.G. Hon. Mr. Wei YUR, C.M.G. Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K, C. Hon. Mr. E. A. HEWETT, C.M.G. Hon. Mr. C. H. Rose.

Hon. Mr. E. OSBORNE.

Mr. C. CLEMENTI (Clerk of Council), MINUTES.

were read and approved.

FINANCIAL MINUTË.

The COLONIAL BECARTARY, by command of His Excellency the Governor, laid on the table Financial Minuto No. 13, and moved that it be referred to the Finance Committee.

The COLONIAL TREASURES-Seconded.

The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command of H.E. the Governor, laid on the table the Report of the Finance Committee (No. 1), and moved its adoption.

The COLONIAL TREASURER Baconded, and the motion was agreed to.

THE CARE OF THE INSANE.

HIS EXCELLENCY-This financial minute, gentlemen, refers to the question of tho Junatic asylum which was raised in the debate on the Estimates when I informed the hon. member who represents the Cham- ber of Commerce that I was making a close personal investigation into the condition of the lunatic asylum. Since that date I asked the unofficial members of the Coun cil if they would accompany me and make

THE HONGLONG DAILY PRESS, FRIDAY, MARCH 8г¤, 1912,

which a draft was laid on the table of this Council at the meeting held on Tues- day, 97th February (which have been amended in Council, today), bo substitut

therefor.

By

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL seconded, and the motion was agreed to.

Paper No. It is a report of the com- mittee regarding the public house trusts in this Colony. The paper is really in the nature of a ballon d'esar. It is intended

trame a policy with regard to the retailed salo of liquor in public-houses and bars in this Colony. It is not our intention to introduce any legislation to that effect in the immediate future, but rather to frame a policy which shall be introduced per

The haps some five or six years hence. only reason for bringing it forward at the present time is in order that we may -give-due-notice and thereby reduce any claims for compensation which may arise from the inauguration of suca policy and on the other hand to avoid creating new liabilities. Later on, when the metabers of this Council and the community have had time to study this paper, it will be feasible to introduce resolutions to give The papers

effect to it in this Council,

ASIATIO EMIORATION ORDINANDA,

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first reading of a Bill entitled "An Ordinance to amend and consolidate the Law relat- ing to Chinese Passenger Ships' as defined by the Chinese Passengers Act, 1855, and concerning Asiatic Emigrants generally. In doing so he said This Bill purports to place the subject of Chinese emigration on an intelligible basis. Your Excellency desires to address the Council on it, and the details will be dealt with on the motion for the second reading of the Bill,

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Council any batter wish than that their deliberations in future shall be conducted as they have been ever since I have known them with goodwill and with the sole object of furthering the public good. With these words, gentlemen, I shall take leave of you (Applause.)

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a personal inspection of the House of Works Department. I replied that I hart sult these countries, and any laws to be great hardship to many businesses in the portant public works have not been

Detention. Several members were good enough to accept and we went over the several wards. Various suggestions were made which are practically all being car- Tied out at the present time, but owing to the disturbanece in Kwangtung there bar been considerable congestion of Chi- nese funatics in the Colony for some time past, as the asylum which is managed by Dr. Seldon of Canton has been unable to reccise them. I am glad to say that quite recently we have arranged informally with the police at Canton to take again Chinese lunatics as previously and make a remuneration to Dr. Solden for their maintenance, this Colony should pay a reasonable fee for those who are British subjects or those who have been long resident in the Colony, This arrangement will dispose of the con- gestion in the Chinese ward itself, but with regard to non-Chinese lunatics I have had a report on each particular case in the House of Detention. I have gone

already been investigating that matter, both as regards the inadequacy of the staff and the method of entering into con

I regret that the re-

big one in itself. tracts. Each of thesd branches is a very

sults of that investigation are not ready for communication to Council "At this time, but I have no doubt that the in- vestigation will proceed on the same lines as those on which I have been conducting it. I had hoped there would be a report on the question of the Law Courts and the Government offices, giving an outline of their history from the date of their any other ground which has led to an in- crosso in cost, but unfortunately it was not ready for to-day. I hope it will be ready by next meeting of the Council. I much regret 1 will not be able to finish this investigation, for it is a subject of the very greatest interest, especially the question of the method of entering into

than

At the same time I said, inception, alterations and estimates and, either from a business point of view or which 1 shall d like to take the much suffering on the part of the poorer

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amount of Chinese copper coinage air. culating here, which is of course not legal tender. We have at the present moment ever a lakh of dollars worth of copper coin lying at the bank on which we are daily losing considerable interest. This sure will form a reserve and it will largely

Hon. Dr. Ho Kar maid-Your Excel- supply the demand which will be created

It is pro- lengy have listened with much interest by the passing of this Bill, Posed now to prohibit the importation and emotion to your farewell speech. I am sure I express the united sentiments and circulation of Chinese copper coin in this Colony. The object of this Bill has of my unofficial colleagues when I say received the approval of the leading banks we feel great regret in saying "Good-bye" in the Colony, the Secretary of State, the to you in this Council Chamber to-day.. Treasury in England, and the Chinese By your promotion and transfer to a more community here. Its operation will, Important and higher post in the Empire, this Colony is sustaining a great and think, be a valuable object lesson to us in dealing with the question of subsidiary irrepar ble loss. It was just about this time five years ago that the first silver coinage. do not propose that

Ganouncement of your appointment Ba the powers which this Bill confers shall Governor of Hongkong reached us, and, be exercised in a drastic manner at first.

as your fame had long proceeded you, we I think it will be probably sufficient to had high expectation of your administra The COLONIAL SECRETARY BEConded. are laid on the table with a view to giving the law in this Colony has long seemed to prevent the circulation of Chinese cop a few months later. Speaking from the HIS EXCELLENCY- The present state of restrict the importation in bulk and also tion when we welcomed you to our shores plenty of opportunity for everyone to study the policy outlined.

I consider, to me to be somewhat unsatisfactory. per coine by those who handle copper our experience of the past five years. I can

roney in large quantities. Money-lenders gentlemen, that this subject is of really The present Ordinance was passed early

conscientiously say that our expectation will not be authorised to circulate in the has been fulfilled and exceeded. vast importance, because it affects our

in 1908. When I came to the Colony the

Your national credit, I read every day the Ordinance had already been drafted for Colony in exchange for other coins but Excellency's wise and liberal administra- some considerable time. It had been re- only as foreign coin for export out of the tion of the Government, of this Colony police reports and constantly, almost daily, I see cases of British sailors and ferred to the Secretary of State and Colony. Those who receive fares for has given universal satisfaction and has others being robbed when they are in a

approved by him. I, being unacquainted rickshas and tramways will be able to re-

won the respect and admiration of every with the details of the emigration ques fuso Chinese coin, the circulation of which section of this cosmopolitan community. state of drunkenness. Yesterday 1. saw

tion, took no active, part in the Bill, but will be illegal and thereby save them. With extraordinary ability and tact, fair- a case of a man being robbed of every confined myself to making one or two selves a large loss of coin which is largely ness and courtesy you have presided over thing, including his boots, when lying alterations which were manifestly necar. at a discount. As a result we anticipate this Council, and the many new and use- The minutes of the previous meeting dead drunk in a side street in this Colony sary. The Ordinance of 1008 was in itself that the Chinese copper coins will and ful Ordinances which stand in our statute

The object of this scheme is to are that the class of liquor sold in public houses is.

a very great improvement on the low as their way back to Canton and that Hong-book are so many testimonials of your improved and also to afford some coun

it stood up to that time, because for the kong coin will be in demand and will industry and labour as a legislator. It ter attraction which shall supersede the

first time it recognised the existence of reach par. There will probably boa con- is only a week ago that I received a copy taste for drink. No doubt the scheme 19

a class whom we call assisted emigrants siderable demand for copper coin in ex- of Hansard for 1911. Its unusual bulk outlined will be improved after considera much greater degree of protection than the Chinese cash is excluded from the and the latest evidence of the useful work and legislated in order to give them a change for silver. You will observe that and interesting contents furnish abundant tion, but I do trust that this Council will they had enjoyed up to that time. The

scope of the Bill, and this, I think, is carried on in this Council under your eventually accept the general principle number of emigrants passing through this necessary, because of the extremely poor presidency. In all our debates and dis- which is involved for the sake of the Bri Colony is very large indeed, and I think nature of the country in which auch form cussions in this Chamber we have alware Our argument is there is nothing tish name in the Colony in which the vast the Government of China has always of currency is needed. In Indis up to met with the kindest treatment and majority of the inhabitants are of eastern looked to us and relied greatly upon the the present day the cowrie is still in exist-courtesy at your hands, and I, for one, race. Our thanks are due to the commit efforts made in this Colony to see fair

ence in the bazaar. The cowrie in only shall never forget the kindly considera- that report, for they have had to handle them the best conditions possible. They only one-third of a farthing. This is a Excellency. tee whose names are signed at the foot of play to the emigrants and to secure for worth a fraction of a pia, which is worth tion I have always received from your When you first arrived in ject has been under my contidoration for of villagers, who fall very easily into the small coins for the extremely poor. a thorny and difficult question. This sub- are as a rule an exceedingly ignorant type striking instance of the retaining of very this Colony I believe you, Sir, found it in considerable financial difficulties, and has not been produced in the past two or three years. The report

hande of dishonest and fraudulent people. The motion was agreed to

you at once set about to procure material burry and Therefore it behoves us to do all we can

The Objects and Reasons attached to improvements. By exercising strict without mature deliberation. As I am to let them understand fully, what they the Bill state: -Up to recently economy and adopting wise mensures you

.shortly leaving the Colony, I will ask are engaging to do. The present Bill, I

Hongkong copper coin was at A bave gradually, but surely, improved our permission to say a word or two on some hope, will place the whole emigration very large discount, but recent financial condition from year to year, and WINE & SPIRIT MERCHANTS, other matters upon which I have spoken question on a better footing. It is a very

sures for redemption has reduced it in spite of the long-continued depression in this Council. The spokesman of the difficult matter to deal with cases which unofficial members speaking in the debate involve the procedure of other countries, to a figure which it is considered carpet of trade and a considerable loss in the 38 AND 40, QUEEN'S ROAD CENTRAL on the Estimates asked for a commission that is to say, the country of the destina be further reduced without legislation opium revenus you have succeeded in on account of the free circulation of pacing our finances on a sound and satis

At the same time im- to be appointed to inquire into certain tion of the emigrant, which, of course, is

As the discount causes factory footing. matters in connection with the Public outside our jurisdiction. We must con- foreign coins.

effective can only be so by co-operation Colony and as the amount of Hongkong neglected, for within the period of your administration we have had the pleasure with those countries, which ara, chiefly, con in circulation and in stock at the pin of seeing the completion of the Kowloon the Straits Settlements, the Federated seat time is estimated to be no Malay States, the Datch Netherlands is required for the needs of the Colony, and Samchun Railway, the Post Office Indies, and British North Bornes, Com opportunity is now taken to prohibit the and Law Courts and the starting of the Tytan Village water-works, and the munication has been opened with them, circulation of foreign coins. It is belies harbour of refuge at Tai kok-tsai. Nor but the Colomal Office is the naturaled that, with the successful operation of has the sanitation of the Celony been over- agency for conducting the policy of differ this Bill, the coin in question will rise, looked, but sanitary measures of every ent British Colonies, and I propose there almost, if not quite, to par. The prin- description have had your Excellency's should be delayed for some time in order sidents representing all sections of the of the best results of your sanitary mes- that we may make further investigations business community. fore that the second reading of this Bill ciple of the Bill has been approved by re closest attention and consideration. Ono

sures is the practical cessation of body- WATCH MAKERS, regarding the procedure in those countries.

HJS EXCELLENCY'S FAREWELL.

dumping into the streets, and the satis. and also with regard to the Colonial Office HIS EXCELLENCY-Before adjourning the factory establishment of public dis

JEWELLERS, views, and in order that those interested Council, as this is the last occasion on pensaries and district hospitals in the this chair to my Colony. These institutions will relieve the point of view of public interest may great regret, I have an opportunity of making any sug opportunity of thanking the hon. mem classes of Chinese, and cannot fail to gestions to the Government regarding the bors of this Council, and more especially spread a better knowledge of sanitary draft of the Bill before you. This Bill the unofficial members of the Council, science and law among the native com would have been introduced early fast for the great consideration and courtesy munity. The great interest you take in year, but I waited in order to refer the which they have at all times extended education in Hongkong has led

you, Bir, matter to the late Mr. Barnes, who was

to me. During the past five years, or to devise means for its improvement. perhaps the greatest expert in the Far approaching five years residing in this Ned content with the vast improvements Microscopes and Optical Goods personally into each one We have com-

East on the subject as Protector of Chi-had the privilege of and increased proficency effected in the menced the process of repatriating every

WIRELESS TELEGRAPHY.

nese in the Straits Settlements. Since he Council, we have passed a great deal of Government and grant-in-aid schools, you arrived in the Colony, he sat to work with legislation, and some of it, I venture have extended your efforts into private

Prism Binoculars, one, with the exception of two whose re- latives did not want them to be taken out. Another subject alluded to was that astonishing energy, and, from the papers to think, very important legislation colleges and primary vernacular schools,

I am glad which he examined, he drafted a long and for this Colony. We have of the Colony. In the case of some others of wireless telegraphy.

taken and you have crowned the whole with the

Voigtlaender Telescopes, the country to which they belong has de- to be able to report that some pro- favourable report, but unfortunately his up more than one subject which had foundation of the Hongkong University Watches and Clocks. clined to receive them or to recognise their gress has been made. We have probably sudden death deprived us of his invaluable lain over for long periods of years and for the advanced students of all nationali- nationality. these cases

have pro- decided on the site which the Imperial experience. I regret that I had not even I hope we have dealt with them satis- ties, races and creeds. Sir, it does not These have involved very need a prophet to predict that you will posed that we should repatriate them at station will occupy, and we have in view an opportunity of discussing his report factorily. our own cost and pay a reasonable fee for a site which will be convenient for the with him. The objects of the Bill are to heavy demands on the time of members be long remembered by future generations their maintenance. It will be cheaper to commercial station. The delay which has reduce the opportunities for fraud on the of this Council, especially during the paste the eminent prometer of education, get rid of them than to pay to keep them occurred in this matter is in no way due part of recruiters or boarding house year, but our debates, however con and with the University your name will here.

to the local Government, for as you all keepers or others catering for emigrants, troversial the subject might be, have be handed down and cherished with loving official members who accompanied me the recognise the question of an Imperia! and to ensure that the inspection of always been conducted without any frie- and grateful memories. other day. That is putting it on purely wireless telegraph is one in which Immigrants in the Registrar General's office tion and with the utmost goodwill. The clude, Sir, without expressing my great reason has been, gentlemen, because every admiration of the able and successful way business and material lines, but from perial intersats are so involved that it is is effective, and to secure for them the what fell from the unofficial members who impossible to proceed with any degree of best terms we can, and to avoid inter member in this Council, official or un- you have preserved the good order and

fering with the free passengers, who do official, has bad the same object in view, peace of this Colony when the neighbour accompanied me and with whom I agreed rapidity or to act ontirely upon our own we should view it on the ground, of initiative. We have already received une not require any particular protection, and and that object has been solely the public ing provinces were in a disturbed condi- humanity. We have not got a lunatio estimate of cost and we hope before long finally, to systematise the procedure in good and the way in which the Council tion. In my humble opinion no one could this Colony, which has been somewhat could promote it. I do not propose in have succeeded so well and completely as aaylum: Wo merely have a place of bu receive some other estimates. It re-

your Excellency, and this is due largely detention. It is right that we should get mains now to ascertain iron the Imperial haphazard. between the Registrar-Gen- any way to review the events of the last rid of these people instead of keeping Government whether they will agree to eps) and the Harbour Master. In fature few years which have all had their reflex to your having won the respect and them bare for years and years.

our proposals and see bow far they the Registrar-General will be responsible action in this Council, more especially fidence of the Chinese and to your mont Minute is to establish a small fund for will go towards putting them into effect by for migrants on land, for boarding house in the matter of the finances of the Colony sympathy with them in all their legitikuste commercial station keepers and other agencies, while the which is annually reviewed when the aspirations and undertakings. In saying that purpose for repatriating those for inaugurating a

"Good-bye" to you, Bir. I wish you and whose maintenance we shall have to pay. There is one final matter on which I would Harbour Master will be responsible for Estimates come up for presentation to I hope that the steps which have now been like to remark, and for test I will have emigrant ships, and their passengers and the Council, but I may recall that those Lady Lagard health, prosperity and every so forth. The idea is that all emigration years while I have been in the Colony happiness, and may yon Excellency taken will lead to a little more care to carry your memory back to the speech I

shall be free, but the poverty of a large have been years of considerable financial achieve equal and even greater succes being taken to prevent this Colony becom- made in 1908 when I said it was the inton-

We have had to face some

in your new sphere of usefulness where ing the dumping ground for lunatics tion of the Government to set up an Appeal number of these emigrants is snob that it difficulty. ing the dumping ground really the Court on a new basis in this Colony, is precludes their embarking without some had heroes of the revenue of the country.

ia very difficult to realize that ideal, and

very heavy expenditure and we have put your distinguished and valuable services & prosperous state of trade which are urgently needed by your King and lunatics properly belonging to this delay in that matter 18:30 on which

assistance. The charges should be reason- and not due to the dilatorinces of the Governable, and the contract a short one, so that

Colony. We have had to meet yery Hon. Mr. WEI YUR-Your Excolenev, we can repatriate them to England or ment, for I recognise the great importance the emigrant should have an opportunity heavy expenditure on the railway, but my friend has so well and fully expressed China. It will be cheaper to adopt that of the question, but the causes are beyond of re-engaging after his contract has am extremely glad that before any time my views and sentiments that be bas lait course than to establish a large and costly our control. I am glad to be able to in- expired. These objects are primarily in this Colony has entirely passed the

me not much to add. I merely now say asylum,

form the Council, that finality is now

concerned with the country of destination, railway has been opened, and I may inform that his remarks with regard to your Ex- Hon. Mr. HEwETT-Am I in order to say in sight and I hope that before the end

and it is only indirectly that we are able

the Council: that we havo drawn up in collency and I now join with him in wish- a word on behalf of the unofficial mem- of the year we will have an Appeal Court

to trame them. I regret that my

conjunction with the negotiators appointing your Excellency and Lady Lugard bers ?

which will recommend itself to all room-

approaching departure will prevent my ed by the Chinese Government what health, happiness and prosperity. bere of this Council.

seeing this Bill through, and seeing it hope will be a very satisfactory working Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-As the hob, and placed on the Statute hooks, but I hope agreement. The unrest lately in China senior unofficial member has pointed out, I may be of some assistance in elucidating has caused a temporary suspension of the during your tenure of office in this Colony final ratification of that agreement, but some very important public works have certain points in the Straits Settlements I have every reason to hope that the final been completed, and, Sir, in departing as I pass through, and perhaps at Home in England. The Bill in its present form

ratification will be completed soon, since not intended to be final or complete. it has been negotiated and agreed to by you will leave behind you other important the representatives of the Peking Govern which will also in the future be connected works which you have inaugurated and FOREIGN COFFER COIN ORDINANCE, 1912.

ment. In spite of our financial difficulties with your name. The extension of the The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first we have in hand very costly works, the Tytam water works and the building of in the interests of the Colony as well as of the Secretary of State. They have also reading of a Bill entitled "An Ordinance typhoon refuge, a work of enormous in the typhoon refuge will be memorials to

to prohibit the importation and circnia-portance which I hope and trust will be been circulated to members of the Coun- 'cil. I think it may be desirable before tion of foreign copper and bronze coins," carried out successfully and will not give your initiative and will confer permanent putting the resolution that the Council In doing so he said-The details concern. rise to any controversy as so many other might have an opportunity of considering ing this Bill will be outlined when the Bill public works have done regarding excess of this Colony. I have been very glad to the draft. I move that the Council comes up for second reading. I refer the of expenditure or any other similar hear from you to day that the scheme for The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command resolve itself into committee to consider Council now to the Objects and Reasons siderable improvement has been made in in consequence of your energies, shortly criticisms. In the New Territory con- & wireless telegraph station is likely to be, of H.E. the Governor, laid on the table the Standing Rules and Orders seriatim, attached to the Bill.

As the hon. the following papers: The Report by a The ATTORNEY-GENERAL seconded, and

The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded.

the matter of communication, and, as you placed on a working basis.” Committee to consider the feasibility of the motion was agreed to

HIS EXCELLENCY-As my hon. and learn- know, the road is completed now from and senior unofficial member has pointed forming & Public House Trust and the

ed friend has said, the Objects and Rea Castle. Peak vid Pingshau right through out, your Excellener has not only attend- preliminary steps necessary. in that The COLONIAL SECRETARY moved the sona very fully explain the object of the to Shataukok on the north-eastern ed to what one may call the material event; the Jurors' List for 1912; Report following resolution:Resolved that the Bill before you, and I will only, in intro frontier. The latter part between Lowu needs of the Colony, but also by your in- of Expenditure to the 31st December, 1911, Standing Rules and Orders of the Legisla ducing the Bill, add a word, or two. It and Shatankok is now covered by a light terest in education have shown a desire to on the new Typhoon Refuge. so he said-I regret there is, no diagram suance of Article XIX. of the Royal Inter of the rehabilitating the subsidiary of the Colony me not in an unfavourable methods and progress among the Chinese In doing tive Council of Hongkong passed in pur constitutes an important step in the mat railway line. I think on the whole, there spread by means of British influence in fore, we may consider that the finances this Colony enlightenment in Western supplied with this report as there was on structions of the 18th day of Jannery coinage of this Colony. We believe that condition, all things considered. We are people, I feel sure that the University the previous occasion, but I hope it will 1888, and agreed to by the Legislative the amount of copper coin in Hongkong embarking this year on that long delayed will always be a lasting memorial to your and most necessary scheme for another Excellency's stay amongst us. You, Bir, and amended by the Legislative Council in circulation is not really in excess of

the currency requirements of this Colony; reservoir at Tytam Tak. It is with the will shortly be returning to the field of on the 11th day of June, 1900, and on the

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Colony

That also, is the view of the un-

are few in number

HIS EXCELLENCY-Yes,

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BTANDING BULES..

Hon. Mr. HeWETT-On behalf of the un- official members, some of whom visited the asylum two months ago, I can only say The COLONIAL SECRETARY Before I that the proposale put forward by your move the resolution standing in my name Excellency for dealing with these unfor I would like to remind again the Council tunato people who have become insane in that the revised Standing Rules and this Colony meet with our entire support. Orders have been very carefully consider. They are the most humane and must rea-ed by your Excellency and the late Mr. sonable from a financial point of view and Barnes and have received the approval

In the interests of the unfortunate people

with whom we have to deal.

The motion was agreed to.

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THE PROPOSED PUBLIC HOUSE TRUST.

On resuming,

Council on the 9th day of June, 1890,

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I cannot con-

her and lasting bonefits upon the inhabitants

be ready by next meeting of Council.

HIS EXCELLENCY-With regard to the papers laid upon the table, I would ask permission of the Council to say a word 5th day of December, 1901, be repealed It nevertheless remains at a discount of keenest regret that I am vacating this i and that the Standing Rules and Orders of some seven per cent, because of the large seat, and is doing so I cannot wish this

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