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THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS. FRIDAY, JULY 24TH, 1908. If the Fand remained as it is, it might be wherein Tour Excellency is instructed that the their insurance policies, Certain members of ondary interest. The primary interests of possible to increase the pensions, ewing proposal must be adopted. The proposed legis the service took a typical case, onlonlated it on this Colony are on the one hand, the officials, to excess of contributions over pensionation is exantially of a domestic nature. It the life insurance tables of one of the companies and on the other hand, the taxpayers, Why in It is extremely diflealt to convince this deals with the aksire of our own household, in the Colony, and set it is by side with the be, these circumstances, should this Colony be elas that in advancing this doctrine ther It primarily ouncerns the people who pay and nets accruing under the Willows and Orphans dictated to and ordered to pars legislation in are calling in question the calculations of the the people who benoit the Hongkong public Fund, and the Service to a man oxclaimed this strain? That, I take it, was the The Government, an nusl. is doing as men of the question pat by my bon. expert actuarios who valued the Fund in 1990, and the Officials of the Colony. The intersst and the advice which the Secretary of State of the Home Authorities in the matter is in the eye; we can get better terms from Nor, gentlenion, the Imperial Government some commercial house in Queen's Road. But has a very distinct and direct Interest It must Now, bas since recalvod from the actueries.

indeed we are to understand that it was discovered that in these #gurse which is this particular question.

direct tary of State's despatch, the accuracy of the Imperial Government guarantees these had been oironiated a little error of between 40 not be overlooked that the civil servants are the pansion tables depends on two factors pensions. I seek information on this point. and 50 per cent had been mado in calculating appointed by the Crown. They are

oloseness of the approximation of Of course it is say to concetra that, for the the pensions that would noorde in the insurance servants of the Crown, and the Secretary of

convenience of the Colonial Offee, uniformity

company,

When that little fast became known Siste is the representative of Crown. It mukt ht namely, the the mortality experienced and that assumed in the mortality table; and secondly, the acourney with other Colonies in each detalls of admin the service naturally threw the enggestion of not be overlooked that the civil servants

A life this Colony may at any time be transferred to compulsory, life insurance overboard.

Therefore, the solarial process by which the-pension station is desirable, but considerations arising | Insurance company here was naked whether it any other, and frequently are. tables are deduced from the mortality table and out of a perhaps too exclusive study of that: the rules of the Fund. Let me give an example convenience can hardly be reckoned of such would take over the Widow' and Orphans where you have transferable services there must of how an soinary would valne our Fusd. He first-rate importance as to justify the abandon- Pension Fund and guarantee the pensions of necessity be some nuiformity. The Secre

most searching investigation and full advice, a SOLE AGENTS repaid take each individual contributor and make ment of a policy of persuasion in favour of therenader, but, their reply was very vagus, tary of State sfter, as my boz friend said, We have heard guardian of the interests of this Colony not. creditor and debtor aceétat for him. On the policy of cocroios. We can all understand that to the affect that they wished to consult

to the Head if a Department, their directors at home.

haa considered. already received from him, accumulated at six beut on

of the fund, owing to the fact that the widows still the more direst guardian, Fent. compound interest, and also the and his plans upeat by men showing on surprised because owing to the condition interests of the civil servants of whom he is

tenacity

holding on to what

th-a-more advantageous goleme on the one. futuro-contributions unexpected Plated value of any futuro contribut one onceive to be their right, but suele small and orphans hard boretted by the confirms galoulated valus of any prospective pension screes of irritation surely do not affect the tions of bachelors, which is of the casence of the band for the Colony, and of the other hand for correct. When a typhoon is blowing ontalde, de widow and children. This value must, atmosphere of the Olympian heights upon wilch fond, the pansions accruing under this find the civil service. Any further delay, in addi- the tiles are held up in this harbour. ThSPECIAL

tion to the long delay which has already occurred effout of that is that when a typhoon is on the wasia paiting further investigations into this foreshore Causeway Bay does not become ex- of course, be calculated by estimating the Secretaries of State are supposed to live and are very much more favourable, The 00a7er probability of the contribular dying in move sad have their being, and it is therefore, sion in the service I id just now, Any one year; the probability in the avont rather remarkable, and I think regrettable, remarkable. I referred to the ignorance which scheras for additional valuations and so forth posed: There is water thoro for the shallowest nader unless it were deferred for a period of perhaps purpose insido. However, the Public Works that

impatience in dealing with this dif. had exirled as to the benefits solutely twenty, thirty or forty years, would not gavo really Committee desire that it should be deepened, s of bis death of his wife being alive and

ultimately the food. That ignorance wa the expostaney of her life and enjoyment feel; and porpiering question should all called cofosal. I will give you an instanos in my reliable figures. The best advios the Seorstary particular ares of it, and it is being deepened,

Those who may feel Now I do not suppose have been shown. of her pension.

twenty-Eve years, that anyone will est in question the actus- upon to deny that the Homs Authorities have experience. I have an extremely in-of State has, is that on the whole it seems fair bat personally, and I have lived in the Colony

of Chinese clerka in the to both sides. The subject during the last week displayed

impatienes will doubtless point to telligent Bet rial

which the calculations are

by those immediately affected right up to the the Causeway Bay Shelter, and I venture to the fact that se long ago as April 1993 they

misspprehension exists as to the condition of HIGH CLASS do so. It will be soon, therefore, approached the Local Government on the you know what your pension la tinder the

Widows and Orphans' Fund "I suppose it is Colonial Beoretary, and the vast majority of think my hon. friend, the Harbour Master,

agree with me, Hoa. bab the determining fotor in fixing the subject, but I would point out that it was not

In these circumstances, gentlemen, I am myself

COMMANDEE TAYLOR-Certainly. Bocarnoy of the salonlation is the seourney of until January 907 that any rossouable defense some wretched 37 or 83 a mouth, be answered," the anteoribers are in favour of the change will the mortality table. Owing to its peculiar con of the present proposal was made. The subject I told him to calculate it, and when he did

most difficult

Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-I quite- follow with one to understand, so he found that it was $35 a month. And so on of opinion that we can endorse in this Council There is always a very high-tids in s typhoon.

the proposals made in the despatches of the ditions it in impossible, and always will be, to is

доз нву about Le report baving get accurate mortality tables for Hongkong. and even now there are many contributers of right down the service; nobody has really taken

been passed in this Conngil, but since then, Sir Men don't spend their lives hero. That is the nordited intelligence who think that antil the trouble to find out what amount he would Sesrotary of Blate, sud. that this Hill should regard to what

They find it is being put to the meeting the motion a good deal has happened. As

lengthy Therefore actuaries have been new valuation of the fund has been made, it get in return for the four per cent reduction. be read a second time.

it

was agreed to and the Bill was read a cond_matter of. Finance, there has been the roompelled to adopt the mortality tables of other is unfair to ask them to relinquish their rights. Now they have found it.

the bargain good business and they are willing

correspondence between the Government and colonies, and they are never likely to adopt in it From their point of view others. If they wished to, a sufficient number proposed by this Bill resembles the proverbial should be put on-s-permanent basis giardine of lives would have to be traced. The errorain pig in a poke, The bargain proposed may be anteed by the Government, thereby showing His Exceltancy-Council stands adjourned the Chamber of Commeros, and the matter does calculation of the tables naturally decrease the fair enough, but if I were contributor, and ne little wisdom. Now what of the minor- sutil Thursday next,

ity? A great deal has been said of them. What are you to do with the 37 men? larger the number of lives investigated is: The thought so, I should still think that pe con tribator who ought otherwise should be

Surely you don't propose that the vast majority members of the Fand are a small community

become a party to it.

A meeting of the Finance Committee was and to obtain tables of any degree of accuracy it compelled to would be necessary to obtain the statistics of the cannot apprecisto the reasons for urgency of the civil servants are to forego the benefits lives of contributors including the lives of their which the action of the Homs Authorities sees which I have described in my opening speech,in then held, the CozowIAL SECRETARY prasid- wives and children, in many thousands of to imply. If the Civil Government had been order that these 37 mon may play dog-in-the-ing. The following votes were passed

impatient it would-be comprehensible enough. manger. It seems to be impossible to get it into exemples. There is another element of onoor

fund, and I venture to say that these 37 men fainty. It is exchange. The Fund is a dollar Thres lakhs into general rerenno in one antry their heads that there is any benefit at all in the fund since contributions are paid in dollars. and the prospect of receiving $80.00 per Bat it has large and will have larger annum and yeying. 25,000 against it for as have sither not valonlated their pension under long on the gods will continue the icek of this fund or they are bachelors who never intend stering liabilitios.

the Fund-this advantage we could all ander to marry or else they belong to that body of stand. Ob, bat, it is exid, the Government is cross-grained individuals who view all Govern- not going to make anything out of this transfer, ments proposals with disfavour. In my opening the benefits are all in favour of the contributors. speech I tried to demonstrate that a valuation

now would be simply This brings into view another sepeut of the question that calls for delay. It, as I have valuation was made as tooning, no way hard said, the present proposals are advantageous to batera

made. Life insurance companies never pre-

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FINANCE COMMITTEE.

-- PUBLIC WORKS.

The Governor recommended the Courofl to rote a sùm if four thousand six hundred and

severty Dollars ($4,670) in aid of the vole, Table Works, Iurrent, Matatensure of Lighthouse,

PUBLIC WORKS RETRAORDINARY: pension tables nailer the existing

be

for

I believe a

very

great

not stand at all as it did when that füancial minate was passed. It is quite obvious that the scheme cannot be carried out if we have diff culty in fashoing, and Sir, I would like to point out that quite recently a scheme appeared in and Gibb pointed out that the present typhoon the local press in which Messre: Denison, Ram re: uge at Causeway Bay could be prepared at a comparatively held cont.

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The CHAIR But it is ·& wrong

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CASE on CREDIT.

position. One of the points for making a new gentlemen, I would remind that the several

you refuge is that it should be elsewhere. Now, schemes for rarions boat sheltered the harbour COLONIAL SECRETARY'S DEPARTMENT The Governor recommended the Council to were referred to the Publio. Works Committee, vote a eam of three hundred dollars ($300) who selected Mongkoktaui. Then the recom and Legislature, Ciber Charges, Incidental Committee. That was one of the biggest committees ever formed in the Colony, and every Expenses aid of the vote, Colonial Scoretary's Department mondation was referred to the Typhoon Relief possible man was on it, members of the Chamber of Commerce, heads of firms and everybody; ROBINSON PIANO That committee approved of it Then it was referred again-to-the-Public Works Committee on which the representativo of the Chamber of Commerce, Mr. Hewett, had a seat. They discussed the matter very fully. You will and it in the Public Works Committee.report (No 3) of 1907. There was the some difference

The members of the Sea Dolioscies Guild in to go further afield than Mengkoktsui. They of opinion, some of the members wanting “Wanted to go to Cheungshawan, which Fat Shan called a special meeting on the 20th is a long way beyond Stonecutters. Then instant with a view to stimulating the native It was finally settled in the first report of the industry, of een delicacies. The Chairman Public Works Committee for the current year,

The Governor recommended the Council to totoo sam of sight thousand five hundred dollars (8,500) in aid of the vote, Public Works Extra- ordinary, Quarantine Station.

COMPENSATION. The Governor recommended the Council to vote a sum of diteen thousand dollars (13,000) in ant of the vote, Public Works, Extraordinary. Public Health and Buildings Ordinance, 103, Compensation...

BOTANICAL AND FORESTRY VOTE.

The Goverter recommended the Cangail to rote a sum of two thousand dollars ($2,010) in sid of the vole, Botanical and Forestry Depart

Territories,

ment, Other Charges, Forestry in New

MEDICAL

The Governor recommended the Consil to rete a sum of five hundred dollars ($500) in aid of the vote, Medical Departments, B.- Hospital and Asylums. Infections Hospitals, Hulk Ht gets, for the following Homs:

Personal Emoluments. Temporary staff

Other Charges. Provisions &c.,

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Total STAFF QUARTKES,

200

300

$500

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Hongkong, 13th July, 1908,

THE BOYCOTT.

out thoroughly. At any rate I am prepared to the notice of the guild that oorfair dealers who ̈ and it seems to me that the thing was thrashed stated in his speech that it bad been brought th say that His izseliensy has intimated that he are devoid of shaine in making money have is not prepared to reppen the question of a site clandestinely purchased foreign (Japanese) Un "for a breakwater. The site of this breakwater financing it, is, of course, another matter. But that in future any stops or fexs discovered has been practically fixed. but the question of delicacies. A resolation was put and passed in view of the widely expreesid public opinion dealing in foreign sea deliosoles are liable to s that there should be an additional shelter, and no of 1,000 taels for each offence. in view of the references be very sonceivable

body that could be considered to give a good

opinion on it, the scheme Las been adopted THE SAN GABRIEL" DISASTER.

I think you may take by the majority.

TWO MEN SWIM ALL NIGHT..

Mr. Faok S. Cairns, who presided over the' inquiry into the foundering of the "San Gabriel" near Manila a few days ago, deslates

must be kept to guard against fnctuations in exchange. For these reasons it is im possible to hope for better pensions than are now offered. Lastly there is the objector who

de recently as 1900, and on objects that the Fand should be valued-be-

that valuation pansion tables were instituted on fore Gaverament takes it over and not after

the highest actuarial advice: For the ressons ia the Ordinance e diferent to the tables all the Bill now before Council. The Secretary of long run, they must be equally disadvant. I have tried to give it is inconceivable that if a Slate has promised that there shall be valuation ageons to the Hongkong taxpayer. I am valuation were made new, the result would be suro no taxpayer would be likely to grudge mastorially different. The colony of Mauritius a valuation was after this Bill becomes law under the new. tablos for the purpose of ascertaining if whatever benoits are likely to befall under this was mentioned and it was stated a

balance is available for distribution among of departed but as prior to Government the present subsoribor in the shape of so much has been made of the liability of the over the fand, bat the conditions in that bonuses on the pensiors. There would thus fund; so much said as to the prospects of if established Colony are not comparable to the have to be two valuations which would be becoming insolvent nuless laken over, at least conditions here; and becansa a valuation was heavy expenso to- burden the fand with the Hongkong Public may be pardoned for made in Mauritius it did not follow that it was And for the refons stated above a valuation dosiring to know a litt e mare definitively than nggemary that one should be made here. It has now without any real experience of the mortality they do at present the nature of the liability to also been alleged that there has been undas hoste among sabsoribere to the Hongkong Fand which this Ordiaan on commits them. Thers in this matter, That, Sir, is an extraordinary would not throw any material additional light fore it seems to me that for more than one charge inasmuch as it is evident from the cor- on the matter. It may be objected that in such reason it is desirable for the Government to have respondence laid on the table that this quastion came the Government incura a risk in taking an up-to-date valuation made.sed thereafter to has been under consideration stuce 1903. In Over the Fund. Well, it cannot be denied that bring their transference proposal to this Council. 1906, nearly three years ago, the proposal ( sa it inours a responsibility Whether there is this, it seem to me, would have been the wisest brought forward in this Council to trans- risk or not turns on the point whether the course to pursue, this is what I think ought to for the fand to Government and the mortality experience of Ceylon is too favourable, have been done, and this I hope the Colonial matter has been under consideration more In other words whether Chylou is healthier Government will even now, at the deventh or less since. There has been no compulsion place to live in than Hongkong. I think that hour, agroo to press for. I cannot see any im. about it. The Secretary of State, it is true, It may fairly be assumed that there is probably mediate necessity for this Bill; I do not approve he said that he wishes this Ordinance passed: I am not After having given the fullest explanations little difference and that therefore Government of the method of its propulsion. does not incur undue risk in guaranteeing the satisfied that justice is being done to the rights possible he must have been astonished, and the pensions calculated, in the tables attached to of an unrepresented minority. On principle I officials of the Colonial Office and the saineris object to a measure of this nature bei ig forced advisere must have been astonished last year this Bill.

through this Council, and I beg your Exceller oy when they heard that the Hongkong civil servant The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, Hon. Mr. MURRAY STEWART Your Ex not to proaced with the Becond Reading and would not touch bis scheme with the end of a it was quite evident the contributors had not colleroy; The interesting speech to which we to appeal to the Secretary of State to post. pale. They wrote in reply to my despatch that

The Governor recommended the Council to vote a tuin of two thousand Dollars ($2,000) in bare jast listened is an instructive comment on pone the operation of his predecessor's "fiat.

Hon Mr. POLLOCK-I support the pro. considered the previous corresponderos and did

There aid of the vote, Pablic Works Extraordinary, the correspondence which was laid on the table of this Council a week ago. In that correptition just moved by the hon. member opposite not really understand the anbject,

be found all I think, Sir, that in this matter the wishes of they hit the nail on the head the subject was Staff Quarters, "Tai Po. -

MONGKOETSUI BREAKWATER pondence, it appears to me, are

The Governor recommended the Council to the facts to which our attention has been the minority, although they appear to be not understood. The hon. momber who re Fallen into one of those errors which are dificult drawn, and it is, to say the least of it, remark-comparatively small number, should receive presents the Chamber of Commerce has himself able that the significance of these facts has more attention. In this matter we are dealing to avoid. He insinuates that it is good business rote a sum of one hundred and eighty- been so long in impressing themselves upon the with a body, more or less permanent, of minde of officials in this Colony, including the servants who for many years devote their time for the Government in taking over this fand thousand five hundred dollars (186,500) in aid Mongkokten Breakwater-Typhoon Refuge Hon. Colonial Secretary. In lis letter of 24th and service, in many cases for 30 years, to the to save. 830,000 in interest while they are only of the vote Public Works Extraordinary,

for Small Craft. June, 1907, he referred to the fact that is obvious that certain corditions of permanenco

service of the Colony, and in that mase it paying a bonus of 85,000,

an. Mr. STEWART-Immediato.

The CHAIRMAN-Briefy this matter is The COLONIAL SECRETARY-But, Sir, the contributors felt that the Hongkong fand a favourable start, sad had accumulated so should be observed in dealing with them. I

Government proposed to construct a typhoon rapidly that they might confidently look vaniure to suggest. for the consideration bonuses that the Government are guaranteeing explained thus: You are aware that the possibly arrange it to start her on her now many who had been given up as lost, and forward to the possible increase in pensions, of this Conseil that the minority should to pay are calculated on the basis of 5 per cent.

long breakwater. The dredger "St. Encch even on the very low rates, if the fand were not have forced uper them in the disposal of entpound interest, and it does not make the refuge at Mougkok by the construction of a kept separate and farther valuations were made the fund to which they have contributed slightest diference whether that compound on employed at the Naval Extension

interest is paid as it is in the special fund or Lom time to time: Ho did not dissent from different conditions from those under which whether it is guaranteed in the passion. It is Works. by Messrs. Punshard, Lowther and Co. kay in which the "Hygeia" usually i

matter of book accounts. What the The work is now finished and we parolased hor tbat view, and that view is urged with even they began to contribute to the fund, Pro-ly greater force in the report made by the directors bably hon. members will remember the very of the fund, and by the committee which was, op

is the payment of interest on any balancs that the vessel cost about £39,400, and we calculate celebrated legal case which went to the House Government does sare by taking over the fund at £15,000, say $170,000. It is estimated that be of assets over liabilities. In 1900 that when we hara dons with her we will be pointed to inquire into the circnoslances of the of Lords some few years ago, the case of the ford, and is signed by members of this Council Free Church of Scotland, It will be remembered now present. Therefore it seems to me that that the majority of the members who took part that balance was $10,000. The bon member able to get a handsome sum by her sale, as the It is not captions criticism which describes this in that decision of the House of Lords very opposite also showed's want of appreciation of Colosy cannot afford to keep her for its own change of attitude as a remarkable conversion strongly emphasised the fact that where a fund the liabilities that fall on fand of this purposes. The rest of the item is made up of wages We now learn that the majority is in favour bad been scntributed to for a certain purpose nature when he spoke of the bonus of 85000 to crew, which are a considerable item, daring as a mere paltry sum out of that large balance the remaining months of this year. It has bee's under certalu conditions it should not of the proposals which, a year ago-and to my and

of three laes which the Government would take calculated that by this parehase the Government be diverted. I think, Sir, that the hon. certain knowledge very much less than a year ago were regarded as inequitable. It will member opposite has very forcibly urged over. There is nothing like taking a sentrote will save vary considerably over Wat they would bring a copy of the reports. I will nak the took off all of his clothes, except his under- DOBO, The other day there was a deplorable have spent if they had hired the only dredger-

Committee, No. 3 of 1907 Capeabin where he arrived antely, although a naturally be said "If the majority of arguments in support of the proposition which

shipwreck in these, waters when the steamer which is for hire in the Colony at the present of the Publie Wag to and you the reports shirt, put on a life preserver and awa "Powan "went down,

Sappasing four matried time, the Canton River." Those are briefly and No. 1 of 1918, and to be goud enough to bit exhausted from his long-distance swim, bhe contributors wish for the transference, we be has submitted and I content myself by

saying that I agree with those arguments,

others

of this Government, two married offers the facts, gentlemen. sae no ground on which it can be opposed."

Hes. Mr. POLLOCK-By voting for this we send copies to the Press siro. Thay contain Another interesting swimming experience is recorded by a native, Masoeo, who swam ait for THE COLONIAL SECRETARY-Sir, the hon. of class one and two married officers of class two

most interesting information. Sir, I still consider that there are grounds

Hon. nominated by the

Chamber had been on beard and had been drowned, shall not be committing ourselves to the actual

austoms guard Atienze who had been believed opposing this measure, or rather for postpoving member thit measure. Even under the circumstance that of Commerce twitted me with inconsis. Their widows pensions would have, averaged construction of the refuge at Mangkoktani. By

say, 26,000 in all, which at teu voting for the dredger would we be committing Foto Dr. Ho KAI-And will you defer this night and landed finally at Corregidor. The The CHAIR HAN-No, Sir. I don't see any drowned has been heard of from Mariveles where mest

of those who, until recently, found the tency, but if he will read my despistch $1,500 enal,

necessity. The dredger is there, and we have got he landed safely.”

"From the testimony taker by us so far," presont proposa's inequitable, now regard them of the 24th June, 1907, he will not find years purchase equals a capital sum of 360,000 ourselves to defend the refuge scheme?

for her. pay as advantageous, we have still to consider the therein one single word in the nature of to be set aside in the fund to cover the Bir, is what I wish to had out.

The CHAIRMAN There is no doubt about Hon Mr. FOLLOCK-I understand the explained Mr. Cairns, not a single witness has rights of the minority. Lord Elgin's letter of expressing an opinion one way or the other, pensions. That is an example of the liabilities

wiss asked by the Secretary of State to to which the fund is open. The bonit that the dredger is part of the Mongkokissi January 1907 states that it is desirable I

Is that one witness stated that a woman had told that the contributors should not feel that have this question of the transfer of the member hinted that in taking over this fund typhoon refuge scheme, and I would remind Government have abacutely purchased this testised that be saw a single person drowned. The CHAIRMAN-We are parohess or, The nearest evidence that we have to that effect they have s sgrievance.

I would add not fand further esnsidered and if possible to buy deßoit would fall on the taxpayer, but as you that by adopting the report of the Public droge.

Works Committee (No. 1) of this year, this

Even if there was a change of site we would him that she had lost her child in the water. An・ Oven & minority of the contributors. In many legislate in the necessary direction. I found, I Bad in my opening remarks there is no

man opposed matters,

in moet, minority rights Sir, that the service almost to perhaps

prospoot of insolvency and it is a saving for Council has committed itself to the construction have to be overridden. When the presents itself it has to be borne likely the proposal, and I offered, B8 15 turned out, the Government and for the contributors to of that shelter. The Public Works Committee, still went the dredger. Whst I want to make other wilness testified that he saw a fat woman,

extremely sound advies when I suggested to

not any idea of giving up the Mongkok scheme.remember having seen her come to the surface

The Commities then adjourned;

again. None of the people who appeared before us showed any sigas of injury except one vis, with stoicism, But in this affair it appears the Secretary of State to let the matter rest know that the fund is assured. If the fund after very fall investigation, recommended clear is, as far as I know his Excellency has Ciriaca, jump off the port and that he does not became bankrupt I am quite sure that the finally that this refuge at Morgkoktai should to me that there is no such necessity, no need The matter has rested, Sir, with the result that community and the Government would not like be prosseded with, and that report was adopted

woman who was slightly benised in hor attempt to ride rough shed even ever, a minority. If it be now after a year's consideration and after tak- to see the widows, and orphans left destitute by this Council

to elimb into the life boat of the Suverle. first

The unanimous opinion of the witness indiester,

Lost Alexa pissed mored if the present proposal, viewed in the themselves of

kermarch to tee and hear them, espoolally car tha Alava passed to the thing due faire His Excellency Viceroy Chang has deputed and could not be far away. We are waiting the people who were landed at

there may

it, gentleman, bat la voling this money you are assisting the Government to carry out what is regarded-fixed policy that is to build the breakwater at Mong koktaui, come what may, se the result of

that the captain and the crew of the "San the consideration of the Public Works Com- mittes and other bodies, and the Government's tabriel" took advantage of their knowledge own review of all the pessible schemes.

of the situation to help themselves to its pre- Hou. Dr. Ho KAI- And I tako it that when servers and never advised the passengers until this money is voted, the Government is going the last moment. Right here I wish to say that to carry out the scheme, and will get it finished there were plenty of good life preservets, and the claim that these life belts were noserviceable as soon as possibla,

The CHAIBMAN-This dridger is actually in is not substantiated. The surprising fastare our possession. It came into our possession of the day's events was the knowledge that Buens Buerte" had picked up so yesterday, land we propose as soon so we catho

as it stands now our list of recovered shows the cer of digging out the tranch. Hou, Mr. POLLOCK-Was the bay on the the following: Rescued by the Suveric 32, north east of Stonsoullers considered at all; the The CHAIRMAN-No, not that side. It is a Hon. Mr. PoLock-Not much further from West Point then to get to Mongkoktrui. long way to get to that.

The CHAIRMANI don't agree with you there. The sits on Steneoatters suggested was at the south-east corner,

Hon. Mr, POLLOCK-The south-east corner in mash more exposed than the worth.

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arrene that of injustice is pitting the trouble for the format in this mailer the proposals of the Govern Ben. Mr. POLLOCK-Assuming the purolage

mentare based on as sound advice is obtain of this deadger would it not be useful for

dredging at Causeway Bay Eight of an up-to-lete yatation of Be Tuby and Urplans Ceistica Fondig hytrike uple. You Have the valution of 100 101 OVMANDRE-VA

of State in his despatch No contains nothing but unadulterated justice and has come round The hon member said the generosity, why not wait until this trath has conversion was remarkable. Well, it is sore-Secretary

unsulled aotuaries, and daring the months that been made triumphantly wanifest? The Hopebat remarkable, but it is not at all suprising paragraph 1enid that his predecessor had since quite users for that,

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however, died aboard this vessel; saved by the picked up by the Baena Suerte 42 of whom ore, De la Rams 5, and 1. American, by the name Stephen, who swam from the wreck to Capcabin. The other American, Lilley, had a unique experience. When he saw tha: the time had oma for him to look around for other quarters he donned his rubber cost, put on his bat and strapped the life belt around him and jumped into the water. He does not know how to swim, but kapt afloat by means of the preserver for several hours aufil he was picked up by the Busan Suerte." The other American,tephen,

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Untherīties Admit that, it is reasonable for the when you have beer behind the scenes and the proposals were being made he had as good this obviongame moats We Han as special delegate to proceed now for it is quite possible that a boat”

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contributors to sax that sn up-to-date valan knew the condition of absolute ignormes alive as could be had. I don't think therefore extraordinary tion of the fand should be made, and they which prevails among the vast majority of that there.

any sufficient reason for delaying the public wind regarding Causeway Bay. It to Tonking to apply for the rendition of Mariveles,

testify before the board, promise to have one made, and, furthermore the contributors, as to the benefits acorning to this resolution which has been delayed ten long siems to be considered that because the southern about ten rebels who are now deteized there will be sent to bring them oror to Manila to

concessions if the state them under the old pension fund and ander. promise certain

HIS EXCELLENCY-Gentlemen, I do not proportion of the bay is bare at low tide, thero Mr. Wai Han is on exedient French scholar

silted. fore, Chaseway Bay bas

and, besides holding the office of adviser, on of the fond, a valued, warrants it the new pension fund. Now, dir, let your the

wo have had very full explanations on both It seems to me that this valuation ought civil servants got it into their hands that he pose to say many words on this sabi is not eb. That is foreshore, as can be seen on to ho maile before legislatie insurance companies would give them better of the question, on the one hard by my hor. the latest obarts in the Colony. If you want foreign affairs, he file several onerous positions case of Mauritius the reascus bleness of forms than they would get andor the Widows' friend, the Colonial Begretary, and on the other to remove that you have got to take it awar: euch as Chief Director of the Canton-Kowloon a similar demand was apparently admitted, su and Orphans' Fund. They, Imagined that the will be seen from the Secretary of State's forms would be better in this way that the by the hon. member who represents the Chamber The other part of Causeway Bay is quite deep Railway, Director of the Whampoa Torpedo

of Commerce. There is one point alone I will enough,

Hon, Dr. Ho K-What is the area of Fleet, and Director of the Ordinance Depart. latter of January 907. In our ose there is pensions to their widows would be almost equal taks, and that is the argument by the hos

ment. He will proceed to. Tonking with ex no hurry Only urgency could justify, and that bachelor would have the satisfaction member on my right that the Imperial Govern Canseway Bay!

The CHAIEMAN-It is 57 ores There is Magistrate Chan Pak Hm this week. it seems to me, the letter of the Secretary of knowing that their relatives would benet by went has, in this matter, comparatively

Another misapprehension I should like to of State, dated .29th December 1997, 1

The first-class battleship Collingwood, which was launched in 1852, the old Drenduenght, a elinitur ship, which was launched in 1876, and to have been sold at Portsmouth on July 4th.. the Oroutes, which was lapashed in 1870, were The picture, "Mortlake Terrace," by Tarner, the most celebrated of the English landscape painters, has been sold at Christians for 12,600 guineas. The picture goes to Ameriös;