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MAIL SUPPLEMENT TO THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS.

THE CANTON AND KOWLOON

BAILWAY

The prospects of Kowloon must receive a most material lip by the announcement!

A short connecting line about a mile and

tee or Trim Tea-Taui, which might be made by a foreign or by a Chinese Company, and worked in continuation of the Canton line. This, however, would be a small tough important detail of the scheme The com dlotion of the railway would not only bring

transfer of the Water Authority, should atul aver until that time arrives. Even the Board were entrusted with the power of spending, raney without referenco to the Government and without the right. to leve rates, the arrangement would not be witheit preo dent, for the School

on the Kowloon side of the harbour. The development of the peninsula, which has money.

or about 127 miles

THE CITY HALL.

and other works

HONGKONG, THULSDAY, DIC BB 28TH, 1890.

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HIS EXCELLENT-If the hon. member

within his right to do so.

Aud Fats. 10 reade

"Bat the greatest ineroase in expenditure is

Hou, J. Kwo is an addon love hers by neme wish on the part of the un-Jing those views which I was told the zooloial Kautsford, addressed a most important despatch

MAMA official viem word for farlige time adhether the public flounces can support will welcomǝ its introduction. It Hougkong.

dum, I believo

SON However, it has been agreed that the report are fully convinced of the sypropriateness, DẾ the cost it is important the matter should by turnians à te bo st, Sam'shni Pu (AM).

HE STORIES-Mut for lo the other

Morowy, 6 b prepared to slabe the other day, to the Government dated 18th April art, We conmilered in the full Councilor, what is pony the Cosmopolitan Book; thence it is, to report, I understand That the difficulty aangreed that the Committees on the Rilis should be referred book to the Finance Com-Lord Koutsford's views and opinions therain wittee, and therefore I will leave it to the expressed and that they apply with equal if not I kayn is asking the Coutal to adopt this to referred to stand over till next week,...)

Franos Glomantten to deal with the matter, and greater force to the estimates for 188). So practically the same ting, in the Fancy In carried to Shiz-okun (), Pokek part, because it colors two distinct mind legs.

THE FESSION FUND ALL.

saron as the Finance Committee has settled much so that we desire to draw particular ation: Hou. C. B-CHASES The attonitum of the Commitive.

and Shilling), passing uncficial mombers refers to the whole of the Tho. ACTING ARREST STREAL, who at what to do with the mattor the Corsall will tim to the concluding paragraphy of the raid...

despatch: As to the water and drainge works," the

pablio works?ONA MOAKAN TEN in another, column in reference to the proficial mombera recommend that this theagh Tang-

Pazu, 31 reads The ACTING COLONIAL SPOSHTAKT-1 now (00) and Chang His EXCELLENT I hardly ask the prévis rings had aid of the table the report resgua

f. the law Committee approving the Bill an jected Kowloon-Carton Railway. His should be placed under the control of the ning

Ccantil

1 to adopt a repcel with the contents of titted a Ordinandi bo pravide for bad regulate propos that the Council adjonra, but I sa

"I do hot wish to imply any doubt that the T). From Shikking or Shekhong tich I am not acquainted

Pension Fuat for widows and children of certainly not a position to take this matter clony, provided the reveau coutines to re- cellency the Viceroy of the Two Kwang bos Sanitary, Buard, a course which is desired it cross the river at Nic Shak-tong Hou, P. CHAT-Under those dicsam Publis Ofkers of the colony, now moved that the in Finance Committoo today, because the main expansive, an afford to construct is a sab- formally approved the scheme, and by the public generally. Against this (4)

through

the taco I think the bellsourse would be tall be road a third time. In doing so he mid-Surveyor-General is unfortunately ill in hed, stantial way many publia work of which there only newls the conarmation of the Imperial gestion M. FLEMING advances the Ang

adjourn for an hour in vidir to allow your

I explained the objects of it, and it was then affected I could not go on.

estimates have been framed of late years seema Government at Peking. A His Excellenment that if the Board is entrusted with Giang) tamily's village. Tang-hs velletoy time to sea what is tu tha addendum. When I moved the mid rending of this Bill and In the absence of the offer principally is pressing ngegssity; but the way in which the It is very important and we have taken ousidered adrianble, justoad of raferring tế to Hon, T. H. WHICHELD-Wnal_it loto Indieate landeney to initialé nomerous Le HAS-CHANG has strongly recommended the power of spending money it mint

(塘下).

Tang-obung-tsu (††®), great deal of trouble over it

HIS EXCELLENT-1 wish the addon-the Committee of the whole Council to refor it possible to pass the report of the Finance works on a perhips unecessarily liberal scale, to the Law Commities. We have met scrotal Comitt and permit us to send in the den without duo regard to the capabilities of thes the railway to their favourable considers also be entrusted with the power of raising Bhikte), then it again on to form part of the raport 2

times the matter has been fully considered, wedum later on? ་ ་

Public Works Department, tho relative import- tion, there is now little doubt of its focciving

Hot. P. CHATER- Cortainly,

kuva malu ouly & fow verbal alteratione, my res

HIS EXCELLENCY-I do not see how you endasse of the works, and the possibility of defray- the Imperisi sanotion. The project hesoney by rates, otherwise it would have

the river to Ta-tun-tson (A) and

H EXCELLENCY--I that case it will be port has been presented, and under oleum.41 of that freedom from responsibility which

cannot be attached later on, but if the unofficial will thus henlömately committed.” been very carefully gone into by the Vice- ja enjoyed hy, people who have the right to Binkai (passing to the deck of Blutang. cesary to refer the mafter to the Finance the Standing Orders if no mmher objecta I do that. If the report is passed an addendum ing the total expenditurs to which the colony

Committen, because avery inciber most base move that the Hill be now read a third time,

mombers have any omplaint to make against Para, It reads:-- roy, and as the Commission appointed by

1) it comes out on the river and entorn opportunity not only of pensing the ACTINO COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded the Government it is always in their power

"I shall be glad to receive at an early date eu kin to inquire into the feasibility of the other people's money. The argument does not seem quite apposite to the circums

then making any comments on it be, dastres We

Hoa. T H. WHITEHEAD I think it would to address the Secretary of State. If fhay acurate statement showing all the public worka sabeme bave reported that there will be stances. At present Mr. Copper is the

the Pranty district at Nankang (B), esanot take in reginet of the Finnes Committes he desimble to postpone thei passing of this Bi think there are my particulars they bare which are in contemplation, with the estimated until we have had some time to look into it now not got to connection with the satimitacost of esch, the amount spent on qach up to interference with graves, private property Water Authority, Bar e iso ruded to wo of the Polo Tecaploshat bes not yet besp thesad

Hui C.P. CHAPR-I do not suppos for that the report of the Law Committee has been which ought to have been caprifat, nöd or publie works, that it will be a great bene-with the power of levying rates. The Sand the Nishan Batteries (RS), moment, air, that the ocial members would submitted. I think it would be well that this they refer it to the Secretary of Siato, the the 31st December Izab, and tho amount which it may reasonably be grpasted that the Tablic fit to the country through which it passes,tary Board would simply step into Mr.

jain so sieving the ride dam.

fand should be under the jurisdiction of the matter will no doubt reubire dua attention. I and that the people generally will welcome COOPER's shoes, and the Government would

is conges cat at the Waring() market

en during the year. i need to realy point HE EXCELLENThen it does not forma Sapetes Court. From what I can observe it regret myself that the unofficial mombats sherid Works Department will be able to spend, on regins to be entirely at the disposal of the Go. think there is any desire to withhold infort to the fatility of placing on the estimates I think it should be rested is trustees tion. I believe more information has been given arms largely in excess of the powers of that its introduchou, it is not likely the under bold the puree strings, the Board's town, and is carried across the Szb-pi- part of the report as made by the Committee,

Hon. J. J. Keswick-Would it bo in orderror.

Department to mako use of: The statomanti taking will meet with opposition at Peking power as regards expenditure being confined; he) to the wath-cnet corner of the City of to propose that the repit be sent back to the and that those trustees should be under the this year than on proving calvos.

Hon JJ. KESWICK-As ous of those who requested should includs detaila and explan- The Kowloon terminus of the railway is too recommendation. At once, future period Canton, taving itu termipas at the Tiobtain Finance Committen in der that the midendum Jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. be at 8am Shui Po, near the Covinopolitan it may be deemed advisable to entrust it Butow (ks), the newly constracted may be coere

ATTORNEY-GENERAL The sigued that addendum I maot say that for mystions of the item for Sanitary Works," His EXCULLENOT-1 Shink that wonk he trustees will be under the jurisdiction of the part I ever hnd say difcally in getting any which was origiasily $1,500,000 of which sleut Dock, a point just outside British territory with larger powers, including the right of

is under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court 511 the notiosel members that when application informaation ime over rouched me. The public the advendum refers it creed, but I ander or if thews is any objection, of course the Bill has boss, me is to aty ofloor of the Government works to which the colony is sadly committed a half in length would bring it to Yow-nh.lerying rates; but there is no reason why the metal wharf. Its length will be 393 in all, the better cours so far as the report to which Expreme Ceart to a great extent. Everybody information, and I think that is the feeling of $500,000 la bon po, e to which no onnot be read a tuled time today. The man for inforination it has been applied. I think I should be distinguished, and a statement made The callway is to be constructed ander the stand it does not refer (this particular report.

The Acting Colours SECRETARY-I Komit agement of the foud is placed in the hands of will be expressing the views of the other colloin to the comparative urgency of all. It seems me conditions as the Kaipinge wat Tientsin,rld be out of odor teknaider some of the trustees, and it is provided that, the sofa and members when I say that the general intention that ones if funds are forthcoming it will take fine forsigners being excluded from holding matters contained in the endas Bome of decisions may be revised and modified by the of th d addendum is to point out, not that many years to curry out the programs, no shares.

the remarks made I wouldbedially agree with, Governor in Council, whows disin shall be Information has been withhold when asked contemplate?, mod unless some works are alto- but when items have boog considered and the Bal. But if the trustees go, against the profor, be that it was sometimes difonls in gother postponed others of pressing necessity minutes have been out it is beyond the visions of the Ordinance or commit any brenohenaneliou with public worka olsarly to under- must be delayed." power of the Chair nato pen the diseassion. of thole duty, of course they would be under the stand what we were to vols the money for, and an If this addendum, and brew brought up before jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, as we all are regards the addendum itselt, although it has

"Peading the receipt of the information above a great increase of business to Kowloon, but Boards. at home are in precisely the gaur

The Acizne COLONIAL SKOBSTARY-Tepressions in it, which I anderstand the hon. The annual meeting of the abarabolders in the misates are conficinsi it might bre it woulin various ways add to its importance

sabser bery to the City Hall was held in been considered, but as Chairman of the Com

ing I have to move that the Council go into on the Government, I do not bellare for one in which the colony is already committed, and to stant it was ever the intention of the unoffoil those which are demod to be of great necessity." both as a place of trade and residence. The position. Those Boards issue precepts on and of the balding on the 23rd insa mittes the whole inster Les now pasard nut of bon member living objected to the third read the Colunisl storslary to say conveys ocuento exised for, I lift my approval to those works to

the rating authority for what funds they Thers were present---Hon. J.

J. Enswick my bands.

Ta the infants of His Exoollenoy the Ooor ferry facilities would have to be improved, require, but do not themselves impuse rates. (Chairman), Mesa R. To Dalrymple. H

H19 EXCELLENCY-I moved thst Committee RN NEMA

HG EXCELLENCY--If any member objecte it embers to express any such constr

Je EXCELLENCE-It may not have been Adminkdoring too Gorerant at on the estimates and boats it to run in any weather and Moreover, while Mr. FLEMING'u remarks Forbes, Granello Sherp, H. Hoppins sad the report be aglopted, but Plita quite open to the ill be necessary for the Council to go into Con-

1. Danosa Secretary b

Coune to refer the mattey took if it is thonght carry large numbers of passengers laid on the

"The ravisa estimated ordinary expenditur route. As this Cauton-Kowloon line would to extravagance in dealing with other people's The OKATEMAN id-Thub to-day is proper to do so. But as I have already mah: miftos and consider the Bill clause by clause in the intention, but what little of the addendam for 1891, dated 20th October la', paragraph 7 prove the first section of a railway designed oney way be wholly applicable to the pre-of a formal character, and is sturdy se move that tioned, I bare two rats before me. The coordens with the rule passed sowe time ago. I have res dees bhat the invariant is no rozde.

they report, which has been published and is now Courel has bar asked to ages to one of the only if that is done we will have to barea meting messured forms for the last of information, acut Water Anthority, they canot apply in lid can the cable, bu adopted and the secounts reports. That only onetales therecommendations of the Council our Mondus, bonnes the Bill will and farther states that information a bren

ub Las aver come to my knowledge, and if dinary expenditure 2020,279, natead of $804,279 as xfuted by the Offer Alministering the to connect with the Grand Trunk to the same way to the Sanitary Board, whose for the year ending 30th of June last passed.usí to reduced postage and as to pablia work bars to come into foron on the 1st January if asked for and not given. All I can say is that for 1891 in $1,374,780; the ustimated extraor

information on any particular point had been chaug, and theres to. Peking, it will be seen members, as representatives of the public, sugaal, the report refers in detail to everything 59 to 35: There are the fans reforris ie the possib

Hon. P. REKIK—I think we might pass it now, asked for I would have been only too happy to Government a short time aga, some smissione affecting the welfare of the City Hall We Water and Drainage Department. If the ad. that a very large partion of the storage would feel when they incurred expenditure have carried out since the last annual testing dendum refers to those fera as well as the

partkalar items of certain public works, it was riginally prepared, This makes a total expÂN- business of the port would barn to be done that they were in fact spending their can soms very poortenry repairs at a cost of $1,327.67; others the best way wont to to refer both (Hon. T.-H. Whitehead; objecti ke is outirely give it 1 mentioned dafora, ns fù all the anving boat made in the draft estimates a not possible for the Government to know the dira of 2,525019. Lastead therefore of baring a balance of $46,000 on hand at the end of 1801 and the Loilding may now Le said to be in sreports back to the Commi

Hon. P. RrKi-Yus. but I don't think he proojte details, bat if information was desired as there is a satinated dolot of about $180,000. satisfuotery ondition. Turning to the state The ACTING ATTORNEY FERERAL I subựắt

to any particular item Iom us the Government. meat of nooonnte, it is satisfactory to observe the addendum might be received and annexed to dona

Hon. C. H. WHITEHEAD-I have not had world have done it brist to furnish it. This until very rent yours boen remarkably

that during the past year the amount received the raport without form part of it. Very slow, is likely now to proceed at a mash FLEMING'S ADMINISTRATION. for rent of the theairs and other parts of the often members of a committen send in time to go into the matter thornghly. It unle addendum if seempted will go to the Secretary paused by that estimated aansoecary for Publio

brilding exceeded the amount received during the prafest and it is not sathack to the com-strack we that this fad should be vasted in of State as part and parcel of, the report with Works

As a proof of the continued increase of ex- greater rate, and in course of time a city

previous rear by the sum of $1,631. The thaoke mittes. This is not a protest but the opinions of trustees who would be entirely under the Snoat the Government having any opportunity if that may almost rival Victoria will spring"

of the committee are due to the community the unofficial members certain points, and I preme Court and not under the Coverament, making ita comments theroon except by means of penditure onder this hand, it is worthy of remark up there. Considerable tracts of land may At the meeting of the Legislative Council ouerally for their response to our anal appeal think it might be wool and sparst to the but I have no wish to press my views on the despatch, that is to say, the one locamont will be that in the year 1875 the amount expendal on stroots and readily be reclaimed from the water, both at on Monday the Hon. P. Rrake took occafor sabecriptions to the funds of the Tastitution report though not tachically forming part of it. Council and as annecesary labour by going a public document and the other will necessarily the Barveyor-General'e Department on public

has private document, and I do not think it fair works and buillings, roads. Considerable interest continues to be taken u HE EXCELLENCY--7-bov√ no adjection to over the Bat ngalu- Taim-Tea-tsui and Mong Koku, a work sion, in the name of the unofficine Museum, especially by the Chinese com that, but I asked the hoa umber (Hon. d. P HIS EXCELLANCY-I may inform the hon. that allegations of this alors should be publicly bridges amounted to $169,642, whereas for 1881 that the Government should address then-members, to compliment the Hon. Pmunity, as is shown by tho wankly returns of Chater if he wished it to form part of the members that a similar law axlats iu most of the male against the Government in such a way the estimated anm for the Surveyor General's,

Arepart and he and yes.

colonies in which I have been. I may particularly that the Government is unable to meet them. the Water and Drainage, and the Banitary Do selves 10. 80 Loon on the firet mod of the Rail FLEMING on the manner in which be visitors which appear in the newspapers.

The ACLING COLONIAL SECRETARY-It is refer to Jamaloa. I baypened to come across the It is quite open to the unofficial members to part meals amounts to a less than $50,279, Directory the other day in which partlenlara bring any remonstrances they desire to the while the total ampant sstimated for the con way is out. The only weak spot in the pro. Las presided over the Council during the encouragement to the Chinese to take a

greater interest is the Institution, the cou-kanded Adamda to the raport." jectistbe prohibition imposed upon foreigners absence of the Governor, Sir WILLIAN DEE mittee will have to lake intri consideration,

Hon. J. J. KWICE-luidk the unofficial conected with this fand are given, and there notice of the Secretary of State, and then the atruction of such publio buildings as have acquiring shares in the enterprise, which Varx. Mr. Braz in his remarks confined when the funds allow of it, the formation in

conuestion with the Library of a Chinese read members who have signed addoutam wald the fund is in the hands of certais trustees, to Government will have an opportunity of mak actually been enmmenced or are in contemplation

be placed in the inds of mortain trustees, and may have been made. The reports atau referred orased should a new goal be confined might render it difficult to prove the binself to Mr. FLEMING's conduct is fee where the Chinese newspapass conta be quite slefied if it be accepted in the the ama way that it is proposed this fand shoulding their comments upon any statements that is 81540 987, which will have to be further in- fands There is, however, nothing to pre Provident of lui Council, but congratular and hich would contain definery of inter proposed by the paper all I can say is the fand in that colony stande attack to the Tintuce. Committes, but I black of the outer

His FXCELLENCY-So long na it is ander. the present time in a very prosperous position. If the nnoffical members world tall the mattor and deaded opicions of the Secretary of State vent the Viceroy raising a loan for the pur- tious way with equal justice he offered to Chingan translatiiness Plan Liliency stond it does not form purs of the report itself has no doubt the ham, nismbor pat refer to of their addendum over with mo we might very regarding the estimates for 1:00 and the great pose, and for this be could doubtless obtain that officer on his general administration continues to be availed of by a wonsiderable there is no objection to the mansisi merabers the Directory to which I bars referred, but if likely come to some satisfactory conclusion. I dead growing increase of public works expendi the sanction of the Imperial Government, of the Government, which he has conducted anmber of the European community. Yea arsling such opinia as the desire to exot I will be happy to point it out to bin. I not at all wish to prevent the unofficial mentorature poised ant by HE. the Offer Adminje Hou, J. 3. KESWICK-The unofficia wnbere am very sorry the hon. member has not had time expressing their opistons, and those opinions, taring the Government in the minute quoted, aware, gentlemen, that the Renunts DOW in the event of the capital not being all with ability and success. Mr. FLEMING, Tinted to you are made up to the 30th of attach some importans in the various laws to atmine this Bill as thoroughly as bould forming port of the report which will he sent we deeply get the contincnnios of the praction, aubsoribed by Chinese in Hongkong and while acknowledging consciousaces of abort-Jung last, and the report is also up to the same they express therein, and which otherwise your desire, sad if he wishes it should not now be to the Secretary of State, bat i think there hitherto obtaining on the part of the Govern passed, but should be fully considered in must be some misunderstanding as to the meat when the ontlay was on a limited scale, of conings, says be his spared neither time date Therefore to allusion is made in it to the Excefloney would have no knowledge of.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-havo Unmittee, I should be perfectly willing to slovaranoat's not faruising information, and asking for such large wutes of money without nor trouble in endeavouring to deal with the proceedings which were takes recently by on

of the tractees of the City Hall on behalf of the only had this sidandou by me for a moment or low that ocare to be adopted. I have no desire after what the hon. mamber on ray left (Hot providing us with more emplete information different questions that have come before Committee and with their approval. I do not two, god I see there are a number things in to pass any Ordinance through the Connell with-J. J Koawick) has said it would appear there are and mors reasonable detailed statements respect- PUBLIC WORKS: THELE COST AND him, and that he has the satisfaction at all think it is necessary for me to refer on the pre which I would thoroughly concer, but me oye ont full consideration, but the clause in the expressions in the report which may not accurately ing the proposed public works than those Fernbat hus invited me to zvation it spend- events of knowing that none have been tosion to those proceedings farther than happened to some across Doe passage the e-standing erdore under which it is proposed to convey what the hon. metabors wish to any which it has boos onstomary to supply. Go- THEIR CONTRUL“

to simply direst attention to the fact that they waray of which I could not admit, and there read the BIB a third time to-day was passed, I Under these picuumstances I think the butter alieived, that several have been settled, and aro act alluded to in the report be thas did may be others.

think, on the suggestion of one of the unofficial course will be to adjourn to Hooday, and I shalling upwards of $20.990 during 1801. Wa His EXCELLENCY-As I understand, the in-members on the gromad that it was very la be happy in the incuntime to furnish all explan- seriongy question whether this amount is not few have remained unsolved. This estimate pol take place within the paried the report is In their memorandum laid on the table of of Eis own work will, we think. be cordially for do not think there is anything I can official members do not want the officials to horious for this Conseil to go into Committeations in my power.

pection to you that the report does not contain agent to the adban. But I should almost and could very olanse after that had the Legislative Council at its last meeting endorsed by the public. While there has but I shall be pleased to hear any questions that wish myself to las ar oportunity of reading boon already done by ons of the standing the unofficial members have, we are glad to not been wanting evidence that Mr. GRANVILLE SHARP Could anything beber, whether nay chervations in this ad to say he withdraws his objection.

gentleman weald like to ask.

the adeundara sent ju. May I ask the bon committoes. I understand the bon. gentleman sue, recognised the importance of making me is strongly influenced by red tape cons to add in any way to the library. I he dondum rafee to the Water and Druiunga De- the Public Works Committee a real working and attaches what some may be incliatieve the Library contain a very late number portmant? fores instead of allowing it to erlat in are 3 to think andue importance to points devient in some resprats in regard to moderu of valuable standard works, but it is perhaps

Hon. J. J. KESWICK-One passage does. He EXORT.LEXer-They 1 think the best only. "We sarnestly and respectfully re- of procedure, he has never allowed this in boots of referanos. I see you have alluded to course would be to move. tirat the report be re- "commend," they say, "that in the case of the long run to interfere with a practical ex- the addition of Chinese works. Culd nothing fareed back to the Fierzes Commition in order

HIS EXCELLENCY-I have glanced through be done in the way of adding to the Library that the addendum may be added to the report, the addnndum the unofficial members desire to "any new work proposed the Surveyor amitiation of the real merite of any question some modern books, especially madera books of bone at present it dues not form part of the attach to the report of Finans Committne, and "General should in all future cases lay & brought before him. While entertaining referanse which would be useful and Attractive report. What is propad to lay is to lay it on I must say I think it contains mattor the Ge Seastary. "statement before the Public Works Com strong views of his own, he has always shown

Mr. Kesw think that could be done, the table of this Council, but it cannot form verument should have an opportunity of care. its, giving the fullest details and himself willing to give a fair considerations at the next committee meeting hair part of the report oven as an addendum unlon fully perusing. A few days ago it was wen

vite the attoution of the committes to the point; "estimates The Public Works Committee to those of others sud to carry on divcassions raised. I have no doubt that a good deal of Imit. bas been before the fommittes in the first ticued to me that the unofitial members wished 1 General

instater, and then the report would case up to make an addendum, and on the explanationa "would then consider each one, and report with a total absence of rancour or insps provenut is possible in senastim with the from the Committee with the adduadam added to then give I said I had no objection, bat what

Europeas library and the Chiname, and I think it..

it is now proposed to put in is a very different upon it to the Finance Committee and no tienes. It has not been all plain sailing the question whether some poarrangement of

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETASY-- bag thing alt ether, and I do not thick it fair an "vote should be baked from the Council ding the period of his administration. the library is practicable ought to migare the to move that the raports of the Finance Com- addendum of that description should be added "antil the fullest details of every nature Within the last few months he has the attention of the Committee at an early date. "had been obtained and considered during difficult and delicato question of the increnses Mr. Foanze, the report and accounts as preplaced in my banda by the unofficial members

On the motion of the Coat, sounded mittes be referred back with a view to the son without the Government having an opportunity sideration of the document which has just been of making such statement in regard thereto as

they think proper. "these preliminary stagen." They recom-of salaries to deal with, and the unofficial wanted were adopted.

The ACTING COLONIAL TREASURwe seconded. Hon, T. H. WHITEHEAD-I think all that we mend further that no material change members have subjected the estimates to

Carricil.

wants to pat in this addendum to the Fiance. Committos's espurt, and if our addendam Is should be permitted in the plans when unusually close criticism, while almost at

Hr. F. A. HAZLLAND, Acting Clark of Cham Forwarded to the Borotary of State I think that they have once been approved without the commencement of bis acting appcint-

Hon. T. H. WEITERRAD-Sir, parasut to the object we have in view will be arrived at.

pils reference to the Public Works Committee ment be was called upon to officiate as the

HIR TOELLENCY-Yes, but you make one or A meeting of the Legislative Commoil was held notice I beg to ask the following question

Will the Government lay on the (silna state- and the consent of the Council. If this Colony's representative in the entertainment on the 20th ist. There wors prestati

ment showing the aggregate secunt of light two allegations in that addend upon which course be adopted, as we trust it will, of Royalty of the occasion of the visit of the

dnes unleated from let January to 31st the Government onght to have an opportunity H EXCELLENCY THE ACTING GOVERNO,

Marah Jant, both dap inclusive, and from 1st of making their observations. Fou say that the and confirmed. the Public Works Department will bardly Dake and Duchess of Connaught One Hon. F. FLEMING, M.G.

April to 30th November last, also bath days Government has refused to give certain infor

THE UNOFFICIAL MEMDERS AND TRE have the opportunity of again laying itself little incident of a slightly unpleasant ne Hon. W. M. DIANE, C.M.G., Asting Colonial inclusive P

mation to the quoffoal members. All I can say

ESTIMATES OF PUBLIC, WORKS. ·

The information supplied ne has not in our open to soch a heavy indiabaent of extra-tur occurred in connection with the latter, Secretary

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY- The is that I have stated over and over again that it

His Excer-The object of the meeting opinion been of a suficiently detailed naturn, vagance and waste as is brought against it when the Acting Governor refused to give.

Hop. E. J. ACKROYD, Acting Attorney amount of the collections of light do from 1st is my wish to give the unofficial members every

Jancary to 31st Marak last was $119.99, and information in my power, and if the hau: men- to-day was, I believe, to deal with two reports of and we desire to express a bous that protions to in the memorandum refert-3 · to, A the his presstice or countenance to a Masonic General,

Hon. H. WODENOGE, CM.d. Aoting from 1st April 30 November 56,117.64, bera dedicel any particular information with the Finance Commates. These reports were sent being asked to vote large gains in the future all regard to a particular subject and would have book to the Finance Committee to deal with, and noh particular will be given as will suable me to Acting Governor remarked at Monday's ceremony; but whatever little irritation

making a total of $64,937.03.

seked for it, I should bare done my very best of coures unless that order is in some way judge of the extent and nature of the work pro Colonial Treasurer. meeting in reference to another matter,

to gira the information. Bat this ailendu rescinded it is not possibls for the Conseil to posed and of the cost which Itacompletion will sa- we caused thereby has since disappeared, we have ad even those who were loudest in their tee-General.

Hon. N. G. METOHELL-INNPS, Acting Regis we all know that so long sa

The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENHEAL-I eg, would convey to the Secretary of State that the deal with them. If it is still desired the reports tail in so far as such can possibly be ascertained. sir, to more the sound reading of the Bill en unofficial members 1 asked the Government should be farther causidored in committee, I As an instanoa of her matters have boom money of our own, to spend we are condemnation havo, we think," come to see

titled an Ordinibon für the Naturalisation of Lal for curtain information which the Government thick the best course would b for the Coasoil cried on may be permitted to here quate very careful, but if we have an unlimit that his action was not altogether unreason-

Sur Tong. Lai Bur four is now carrying on had refamed to give.

to adjourn for s ebort time and let the Finance an extract from the Barroyer General's letter of business as a morebant the Pa Tai Wo shop. Hou. P. BrRIE-The Government have the Commutties deal with them. Perhaps, however, 17th June last to the Aoting Colonial Secretary. ed supply belonging to anther person, or able Mr. FLEMING has fully earned the

the unofficial members can suggest soms other I attempted to prepacs a satisfactory as "when the supply is exhausted en say to confidence of the public, and we hope the

in this colony for many years, and be a stated power of contradicting that.

HIS EXCELLENCY-Yes, but all the nero coarse than ending these reports back to timate for the new year. but Exiled, for the it is his intention to resido permanently in the "some one elec, I ara in debt and you must Colony may long enjoy the advantage of

calozy. Is haaappling for naturaleation. Dus tary of Stats would have from the Council would the Finance Committee, bad the simple reason that for me of the works in-

other day the hour of conferring with "pay my debts," the same care and cantion his services ne Colonial Secretary. It is,

inquiries have been made, and there is no objection be the report and the addendum. are not used." This has hitherto been the we hear, his intention shortly to go home

to bis being unfuralised. Of course it is wall Hon. T. H. WHEAD-AS Y See Ware, happy position of the Public Works Departon laive, and when he does so he will carry

understood this Ordiusue if passed will only we have been rather pushed with work in Cons- confer on him the rights of a. British schjeet sil. The consideration of the catimats Rod of ront in this Colony. When ones the Legin with him the good wishes of the community

within the colony...

public works extraordinary has takes lative Council had agreed to a certain work and will receive a hearty welcome on his

The ACTING COLONIAL SECERTART sccnded. Freat deal of time. We have prepared this

dendom somewhat bastily, bat wo are quite being undertaken the Department was retorn.

Biti rend sooned tius, practically at liberty to go ahead and spend

to lay on the table the report at the proceedings eir, to move the second reading of the Bill on-

The ACTING ATTOLARY-GENERAL-I beg, ready to reconsider it if time is given to ma

H EXCULLEROY The estimates we Hon. P. BEAIB-I think we have dealt 14th August leat, also to the Acting Colonial of the Finance Committed at mostings haid on what it likol upon it, the Council having

"The preparation of these estimates has în- no opportunity of keoping any check on the

the 5th, 11th, and 16th instead I have to filled an Ordinance for the Naturalisation brought before this Council at the early part of wffolent. with the reports now and that they Secretary. Fara. & roads move that bis Comcil de adapt the report of Choi Wal otherwise Choi Tenn. Chci Wat is October, that is, more than two months ago. As might be passed. I have a memorandum be details of the expenditure, and having no

the Fioknos Committes with referenss to relaced now surrying on business as a murobant at the here atated na previous occasione, I laid them for me which we would eat you to send to the volrod as usual amount of labour awing to stes of postage and the recommendation that Yu Bhing Cheong ship 68 and 63. Bonham before the Council as soon as I possibly ould. Secretary of State Your Excellency is pretty the introduction of the new form of estimate option but to vote such sums as were naked

the pundage be Bized at seven sente por half sange. Strand. He bee rosided for many years in the We could not de so util we know the Begrotary wall-equainted with the contents of that men and to the praction which appears to have pro ing works before detailed drawings and estimates for from year to year for the continuance of

I may mention that the right of firing the esiony und haydolared bis intention of making of State's decision on the question of the in orandum, and I don't think there is any necessity vailed in the past of sanctioning and summ the work in order to avoid the loss of what

postega rests with your Excelleney in Council, it is permanent home. The mast icquiries orase of salaries and received the observations to read it,

His B CELLENCY-De you wish the men bad been prepared.".. had been already spent. The result of tha

sul it is therefore & recommendation so for as have been made and bare is no objection from the members of the Civil Service that were

to his request being granted.

neovesary on that matter. The setimates were this Council is concerned...

deomment system was seen most glaringly in the case

brought before the Connail to the early part of us to be bil on the table as a publio Usteler, and we are now drawing towards the HIS EXCULLENOY-The difficulty about this

Hoa. P. Ryn-If your Excellengy pleases. Bill read soond time. of the Victoria College, and the Goverment His Excellenus the Viceroy has approved the report (16th Lee) is that there are two distinct

end of December. Therefore I must say I dé

FT EXCELGER-If that is the case I bave not exatly so that there has been. any such ught to be no less anxions than the un-soheme for making a Railway between Hongkong matters mixed up in it, the question of the re-

The Bill entalled an Ordinance to open Or great haste in regard to this matter, or that the no objection to the memorandum, being laid on official rembers to avoid any repetition of and Canton and it now only needs the seafirme duetion of postage and that of the public worka such a scandal. The way of improvement tion of the king Authorities, to whom favour extraordiary, items 32 to 38 If not only dinaus No. 18 af 1864), for the Establishment roletat mabere have been asked to hurry the tably I think it might be better for the

Bat Impet say from what I so in The memorandnew then read sutt was a Finance Committee; sad no vote should be lies in the direction pointed out by the au- able consideration His Forclenny has strongly refers to the postage, but to a portion of the of Civil List, was read a third time and passed through them in any very short period, Clark to rond H.

public works, the rest of which are doalt with

this addendum I could not take it upon my fellowa official members. The work of examining recommended it, the Ceriseion His Excellency in another report

The Aorte COLONIAL TREASURE nded The Aurso ATT RNET-GEN BAZ-With salt to allow this report to be passed by Lis had appointed lo enquire into the Basibility of

regard to No. 7 sed & on the orders of the day, Couzoil with that addendam stoked to it with plans and estimates in detail an obviously the proposed line having reported that na altered the adoption of the report

BIS FXCELLENCY-The question is that the Committee on the Bitt entitled the Gambling out having an opportunity of perasing it and be much better performed by a small Cem- by them there will be no interféremen with report of the Yiannos Coroition dated 18th Ordinance, 160, and Committee on the Bill en giving the official members as opportunity of zaittee than a large one, whereas in the con- gravos, private property, or public works; that December, 1890, which refers to the question titled an Ordinansa to amend the Law relating making observations in regard thereto. The ad sideration of the géneral question as to whe- it will be a great benest to the country through of reduced postage, and which lan refers to to Bankruptor, I hardly think we have time to deadem poatatas serious allegations as regarde ther a particular work is pecessary or desirable which it now, and that the propia, generally public works tramplinary 9 to 18 he agreed to go into either of these matter to day, and I be the Government, ozd it is very far from express

Cautor.

THE PROJECTED RAILWAY

FROM KOWLOON TO

CANTON

FORMALLY APPROVED BY THE VICEROY.

HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

Hun, P. BIBIE Hou C. P. CRATER Hon. J. J. KENWICK, Hoa, Ho KAL

Hoa, T H. WugrEMBAD Mr.F.A.BALIND, Acting Clerk of Councils

MINUTILA The minates of the last meeting were read and confirmed.

THE UNOFFICIAL M-MAERS AND THE

·ESTIMATE

The Acriso COLONIAL BECRETART-I have

LIGHT DUES

HATUKALIJATION......

32, Bonham Strand. He has carried on business

The ACTING COLONIAL SEOXETALY conded.

ABOLITION OF TIN CIVIL LIST.

DIUSINEŁA POSTTONED":

Hon. T H. WRITERKAD~Yes I withdraw. The Bill was then read a third time and passed,

THE ADDENDUM TU TRE FINANCE COM- MİTTER'S REPORT.

ADJOURNMENT.

B

2.

largely excess of the paars at 1 the capabili fies of the Fublic Works Department to make propor tee of We think sual sumeshould be voted The Courofl-adjourned mutil Monday at cautiously and with gont sircumspection. In leven o'clock,

addition to the information now supplied, we earnestly desire to record sar opinion that for tha fatura before being asked to vote wo should A meeting of the Legislative Council was hold be provided with reasonably detailed statements" an the 22nd inst. Thoro vero present — of each of the proposed works, setting forth all the reasons binh necessitate and justify the Hi #ĴOSALENCY THE ACTING GOVERNOR. Proposed expenditure; skin, wa think that rea Hon. F. Pumise. C.M.G..

Hon. W. M. DRANE, C., Acting Colonial

Colonial Treasurer

kly detailed designs, drawings, and plane shond in euch instance be produced. All this shock be done, we zubunit, at much a time that are may have ample and ficient opportunity Bon B. J. Ackorn, Acting Attorney for dus inspection and deliberation, and of be coming acquainted with 'the reasons fer sans- Hor H. B. WODEHOUSE, C.M.G., Aoting tioning the proposed work od ascertaining the

oost it in really likely to mil

With such evidenoss of wastefulness and or- Bon. N. G. Moxzz Inara, Acting Registravagans 4 attended the building of the Irer-General.

Victoria College, ne are contacted with the balding of the Civil Hospital Staff Quartora at a cost of $73,000, and on to be attendant→ on the king of the foundations of the New Central Market, and for other good reasons, it is abeolately Incumbent upen as to vote public moneys cautionsly and with doe circumspection. Tho resolation agreed to after modification, by the Legislative Council on the ard ultimo asked for a general statement embodying red- winably detailed particulars of sach proposed The leates of the last mosting were read work and setting forth the moessity for such work, in order that the Council wright kang exactly why and for what, they are voting the money.

Hoo. P. BIBIR, Hon. C. P. KATER Hon. J. J. KISNICE.

Ton. Ho Kai

Hon. T.. WBITCHNÁÐ.

MINUTES.

carried on to the present year no detailed de- them on the addendum they desired abould gluded in the estimates for 1939 which had to be be added to the report. If they still desire the signs or estimates, as far as I stan nacertain, had ore I suggested should be adopted, or if, on bood preparal, sad it was hopeless, without theother band, they can suggest any other means asistanos, in the very limited time available be of carrying out absiantially what they desire, fore the dais fired for semiing in the stimates, I shall be very glad to hear Roy sexgostion from to prepare all the salimatas and designs?

And further, the Bnereyor General's letter of

any unofficial member to that effect.

We earnestly and respectfully, resundmond that in the ease of suy new work proposed the Surveyor General should la all futuro caman lay statement before the Public Works Committer, giving the fallest details and sumater: The sidor each one, and report open it to the Public Works Committee would then bon-

asked from Coured until the fullest details of overy natore bud here obtained and considered MEMORANDUM by the undersigned unoficis during these preliminary stages. When seper members of the Logislative Connoil of Hong has been voted by the Conseil on a definite kong regarding the estimates for Public Government statement and on the strength of -Worka Extraordinary for 1891.

carefully propand detailed plans, no matavini

In connection with the estimates for 1890 the change should be permitted to be made without Right Honourable the Secretary of State, Lord reference to the Public Works Committee, and