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Mr. J. M. Gutines, Acting Clerk of Coun ratepayers or by the Orown lowrees instead of

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THE PUBLIC HEALTH BILL,

explain my reasons. It seems to me there has

some of the Conat porta. As to Shanghai, thara in a Municipality, but no Chines whatever have anything to do with it. it is in the hands of the foreign rataparar. In Sings pura, Malacca, and Prince Edwiel's Island there is a Municipal Council, but that Municipal Conn- oil was established by an Ludiau Act of That Municipal body consists of

THE HONGKONG GOVERNMENT AND tien in the Council itself, but boonuso she is between three and four times as great as circumstance is curious, and its explanation, Australia, retraced their stops and arrived at authorities. The sanitary laws in China one. My hon. friend so my right has brought to THE FORESHORE RECLAMATION.seems unattainable is no reason why they the female, and in a port which is not only were it forthcoming, would doubtfees be in the Queensland capital on the 23rd July. were enforced, and he saw no reason why they notice that a number of flle Justice of the should not fight for the cause of representa a large naval and military depot but whares (teresting. Can it he that CHANG CHIB After spending a few days there they were to sanitary awe of Queensland should not be Peace ate Crown lesions, and they could only Erant charged against the Govern- tion, in Municipal matters. It may be argued the number of mercantils seamen passing TUNG, far remozed from the metropolis, proceed by steamer to Cooktown, where they enforced among the Chinors as among the

remila bed, toited bead on the who reparted in bones co

theyouforced vote in ono capacity; they could not have two

the tent that they did not take time to con- that in a Crawn Colony like this, a small through is very great, it necessarily follows where the high officiala hyve been cognetting intended to embark on board the Changsha Europeans. He e no excuse for the local

votes. sid a the suhents of reclamation on the fore island inhabited chiefly by an alien race, it that prostitution must be excessively rife. It with the syndicate dutared to act for China. At all the places they have vi-authorition, and could accept none." Similar amendment of which Ex-Air-the

The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL--Sir, chic unsafe tike popular leny ara Hongkong proportion under this said share of the city of Victoria propounded to would be improper and unsafs to allow the has been estimated, indeed, that not morethan while they ware talking? At all events, the sited they have been confeously received and replies were given to questions, respecting sitting was te tus fallawing off t

would be improper and bing like popular twenty-five per c. In considering the effect of a large concession is reported all wall satisfied with the truth it would seem the anid them by the Hom, C. P. CRATER. That Government to test on any bing like popular twenty-five per cent of the women in the co-mint was ordered some time ago sad will entergined, and on the whole, judging from overeading in Chinose lodging houses, and of one member being slector by the Chamber of aft-Thist lustust gentina's letter was addressed to thom on election. But no such argument can he leny ara virtuous. In considering the effect of soon be on its way out. Couns regis. their public utterances as reparted in the the injuries alleged to be inflicted in opium Comores and one by the Justices of Las Pence. the 13th July, and the reply of the

the Acting used in reference to wrot'a

Mauicipal matters. We the Acts in Hongkong it must be borne in mind wroz a large onzeession is reported also to Queensland Press, they appear to have been honses on young girla. The Genoral at two should be elected by anal ratepayers an are Colonial Secretary is dated the 11th Acting used in reference to Municipal mast can he leny ara virtuons. In o Colonial Secretary is dated the 11th Angist. Sud, too, a precedent to follow in India. In that only a very small proportion of women include the establishment of a national wall satisfied will the treatment accorded to no kuphole, Lot the lar bu applied, itatadeft in the Special and Joramon Jary Lists Colonial Secretary is dated the 11th Angst, tons dependency of the Crown the practising prostitutination stanses. Last It is said that the chief power in the incendition. In an interview, accorded to The procussed That the Ar The project was therefore carefully have come under the curren

iticised that great dependency of the Crown the practising prostitution of sed also Queensland Press, they appear to have been hosed hos alleged

own the practising prostitution have come under the currency as well as a national bank; indeed their countrymen, although it would seem he said, "and the Chinese authorities would

and also by such rätepayers os are exempted from bad cuty Aiscussed by the Authorities before population here as small a voice as the re- cexpulsory examination clanses. Tast it is said that the chief power in the Counts that they had expected to find them wealthier not find any fault."

serving on juries ou account of their profes- dection was arrived at. That the Activ sidents bere in matters of Imperial govern-year the number was only 272. Those syndicate in the princips representativos of in condition. In an interview accorded to

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sional avocations, and that four should be GOVERNOR other & COVER302 has decided, subjees to cortainment, but in reference to Mauicipal tatters were the women in brothels for Fluropeano: the tror interest in the United States and a Bristane reporter General Wore Tuna Ho

appointed by the Governor. The Govern conditions, which are reasonable enough on they enjoy a very substantial sumount of salt Tas women in brothels for Chinase have that one of their main objects is the improve said that the Chinese in Australie were ant HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. vaan maka. The amendment as now ment are of opinion that this is the utmost con. the whole, to recommend the scheme strong-government. Is this arrangement illogiens never been subjected to compulsory exawia- ment of the position of silver as a circulaties so prosperous as he had expected to find

cassion proposed by the hon. mombor on my right would ly to the Recretary of State for adoption is According to the Acting Chier Justice it is, ation, and there is also a large amongs of medium. The establishment of a silver that." You have said be, no milionaires

A meeting of the Hongkong Legislative introduce w wyslym altogether. We think what might have been expected from a but we cannot agree with His Honour ou clandestine prostitution which it is almos: carroney in China, coupled with the exos here. New in the Straits Settlements, und es Council was held on the 12th inst. There were that if a representative or elective system in to coat man of marked practical commonenes the contrary, we think it more logical to a possible to detect. Notwithstanding tion of farge public works involving the pecially in Singapore, we found several Chi. present-

were be introduced here, it should begin in the Legis like Genersi CAMERON. The project is a largo proceed from the less to the greater than that the operation of the Act has paement of enormous sums in the way of nese millionaires. Here you have none, nor

Iative Council. It owt also be remembered itat one, but as it can be undertaken and car-from the greater to the less. Victoria, been confined within sach narrow bounds, wages, would saccasarily cause a drain in are there likely to or any." It and bean Major Generel CAMERON; C.B.

Elia EXCELLENCT TAS ACTING GOVERNOR, the nominee of the Governor when once he bas ried through, as Mr. Charon has clearly Hongkong, is, we believe, the only con- however, both the naval and military the ailrer market with corresponding in stated the interviewer said, that you

accepted ofloe and is a member of the Board is Hon. J. RUSSELL, CMG, Asting Chlot perfectly independent, and I think that thes shown, without any expense ter the Colonial siderable town in the British empire where doctors are of opinion that ita results provement in the value of the metal us have in roaling came 10 Apr out the Justion.

members of this Council who have been nominst. exchequer, Sir HESE HOLLAND ought to the ratepayers have absolutely no voice in here been most valuable. In 1877-78 measured in gold, But bow, wilt CHANG land with a view to larreasing the Hon. F. STEWART, Acting Colonial Secretary.ed by the Governor, over sizes the institution of have no hesitation in sanctioning what the the mausgement of their Munisipel affairs. Commission sut in Hoogkong to inquire into CHIR-TUNa's scheue fit in with the processis Chinose immigration, and thus disposing of Hon, E.J.AOKROYD, Acting Attorney-General. the Connait, bave never, so far as I eau Par Offer Administering the Uorarament of the In the Straits Settlemonts, Ceylon, Mauris the working of the Act. The Uomotissinagre of the Aráerican syndicate P Not at all, we the surplus inhabitants of your own alrendy

Hon. A. LISTER, Colonial Treasurer.

shown any want of independence whatarer. They Colony strangly recommends. We can only tits, and the West Indian colonies, there is a were the Hon. W. KrawICE, Mr. T. C. fr. The Viceroy' idens on the subject of overcrowded country @"

We can only tits, and the West Lane, Ceylon, Mauri- the working of the Actong to inquire into CHIR-TENg's cold, but bow, wilt CHANG land with came in app out this Justion.

Hon. J. M. PRICE, Sarveyor General. The General

have never looked upon themselves as mera- kope this sanction will not be unduly de-grostar or less degree of popular representa- HALLAL, Q.0., and Dr. EITEL. The two currency appear to be very crude, and his langhed, but seriously replied, "I would not

Hon. H. G. THOMSETT, Harbour Master.

ly the mouthpiece of the Governor simply be Hon. P. BYXIS, layed. The project is of equal importance tion in the control of Municipal affaire, al- later signed a long report in opposition to mint, even if approved by the Imperial Go. induce any of my countrymen to come to

Base they are appointed by him instead of being Hon. WONG SHING. alike to the extension and to the sanitation though they, like Hongkong, aro Orown the Act. Mr. KESWICK disesuted. The versment, seems destined to die a nator! this country. As I have said, very few of

elected-Of-copres I-only-peat from what I- of las city. The need for more apane colonics. Wh of the city.

Hon. A. P. MADEWEN. aura apune colonies. Why should Hongkong stand evidence taken was forwarded to the medleat death. In his memorial he saya that in thes are well off, sad of coures their only

have read and seen, hut I think I am perfoetly Hon. J. BELIIRVING.

right in saying that erez if the non-official mam- n which to erect domiciles for the ever alone in its grandfatherly" system of anthurities of the naval and military de. Kwangtang and wherever there is an open reason for leaving their own country is ta

Hon. C.P. CRATER.

bers of this Council had been elected by the incrcoring population of this city has tean government? As to the large proportion partments, with a request for their opinion port the Mexican dollar is taken as the com- make their fortanes, China la not in our more din sufficiently demonstrated. The the Chinese bour to the pupsulation as atharenn. Dr. WALGR, Deputy Inspector mon currengy. Ha proposes to subat irate for opinion overcrowded, although there are

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being nominated by the Governor, there coold bearing the scheme will have on the health whole which is put forward as a dificulty in General, reported that owing to the oporn- this dallar a coin weighing a candareen and a about 250 persons to the square mile." The

MINUTES.

not have been eloofed more honourable or more of the city has similarly heen made apparent the way of conceding popular representation of the Ordinace the amount of venereal half more, the value of which will there expectation of finding any consider his pro

The mintas of the last meeting were read and independent man ihan those who have been called pro confirmed. The foul and malodorous exhalations from sion-hy confining the franchise to disease contracted in Houzkong hat beou fore orced that of the Mex can by about partion of millionaires amongst size Chiness

to this Conncil by the voice of the Governor. I do not think we are in a position yet to extend healthy partups Becoming acting using Moreover, the population to 1874 had undequences commended

realore are beyond question most no-ligas Tatapagers who have a knowledge weet ditoinished, and that (be type had Leen 24 ceffis. This shange in value would in in Australia was of course absurd. The healthy and the origin of more fever and of the English language, that is, to modified. Dr. MAX GRANT, Surgeon Major, teelf cause considerable confusion crea if it conditions there are radically different

the elective principle, and I think that it is disans than pertus becoming accentuated of the educated parts of an ignorant had operated and result in the year its value. We of making its way in China. The same There are fewer dooiestic sera sorvices.

His EXCELLENCY-The Council will now re-throwing some rification upon the nomices mem disease than partups most persons suspect. those whose names appear on the jury reported that although there bad been an era proposed by force of law to declare the frous thous prevailing in Singapore, sume consideration, in Committee, of the Publie bes that they should be elected to show it Moreover this evil is becoming accentuated list, there would be no danger of the votes increase in the number of admissions to hos Mexican dollar no longer a legal tender. But In the latter there is a large held Health Bill.

should be ertanged. In order to interest tha every month, he the sliere is silting up of the educated portion of the community pital from venereal discass for the years sbs Viceroy proposes that the new dullar shall for

the trader to amasu wealth, in 4

On the motion of the ACTING AMIOANET public in the Board of Health. the Governmont continually, owing to the rubbish thrown boing swamped by those of an ignorant 1873, 1876, and 1877, yet on the whole the be used along with the Mexican dollar, Australia the demand is chiefly for labour, GENERAL sub-action of clause 3, being the have consented that two members should be ap from the native craft all along the Fraya proletariat. Moreover, there is a large sec. Aut had operated favourably and with even in the payment of Customs dues, and the estimato of the condition of the follows: Any houss or part thereof where the Special and Common Jary Lists and those definition of a common ledging bouse, was read as pointed by then ratepayers who are included in Altitian gall on a follows and the deposit of wind and Albion smongst the Chinese population who especially marked good result in the years but that it all be rated acceding Chinese in that ecuntry should be based on a persons are housod-not being members of the exempt from serring on jurine on secourt of brought down the hill from the drains fully deserve be high character given to 1874 and 1875 as compared with 1878; and to its valus. What chance will a raw comparison of the circumstances of the coolie same family at an amount not exceeding five their professional aeocations, and, the Govern

them a and sewere. Tu astazipt to dredge the fore. hom by Mr. RYEEE on Friday-men of keep that it had undoubtedly modified the type and strange coin have of making in way class there as compared with the coolie class cents a day or one dollar a month for each per mest are of opinion that they cannot go further shore is almost useless at any time, and at intellect, who know what is eight and what is and after consequences. Both Dr. WaLLa under these circumstans? What is wanted in China. The same remark would apply to sou...6. Any permanent structure in which em than this. the present invest would be almost certain wrong, in fast an intelligent population of and Dr. Geir strongly recommended that for China is a coin equal in intrinsic value to the white population. There are fewer players of fabsar lodge their employés other that The ACTING CHIEF JUSTICE-A Liutend to create an epidemic or at all events to Chinese equalled in any town in the East. all women practising prostitution should be the M-giaan, of superior werkmsoship and millionaires in Australia in proportion in domestic servants, as part of the romaneration to vote against this amendment perhaps I may

use a great deal ciore sickness than now To allow the more intelligent portion of the brought under the act,

more reliable value, and which can be 12 the population than in England, but the ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL With beer a mistake tande in going so far as to in

given for their services." prevails. In the interests of the health of Chinese commanity some veica in the man- The Commission endoubtedly brought to downas cheaply or more cheaply. The Viceroy general condition of the labouring class is respect to this sub-saction, Sir, I beg tostate that ovease the size of this hoard, besusa anyone the Colony the work of reclamation cannot agement of the municipal affairs of the co-ligat many instances in which crust injustice eays: As the mercantile classes are always superior. It is a characteristic of now we have received certafa objections, made on the who has had anything to do with the work-

is therefore ha commenced ton soon.

long would go far towards breaking down had bear inflicted upon women owing to ready to embrace opportunities for grain they countries that there is both less wealth and part of the Chiness. They object to paragraph ing of Committens or Boards knows that the

characteristic of not FERAL With beer a mistake tande The offer of the Hon. C. P. CRATER, to the feeling of alienation which prevails; tabases which had prept into the working of will eagerly buy up these [the w] dollars, less poverty than in old countries. Thea of this sub-seation beoause they think it would business is generally left to two or three mom art as intermediary between the Marine Lot would cultivate sense of loyalty and re- the Ordinance. There is no reason, bow and as soon as they have beenma current their Chinese Commissioners, however, not with-ircluds englis houses, and they object to coolie-bots Hery we are dividing the responsibility. the latter, and very wisely, Thore will to community in the management of the affairs worked without abuse, and in any erent is beavier by one hace and five candareens to have recognised that their countrymen in tween a coolis-hoase, and a common lodging others give their assent, perhaps. without know. wners and the Government is accepted by apossibility and by interesting, the Chinese ever, why the Ordinance should not be vilue will rise, so that, although ear dollar standing the absence of millionaires, appear houses being clased as common lodging hours and what in everybody's businew is noblyk Ther state that there is a great difference be One or two get the thing as a culs and the doubt be sue fer dissidents who may fear of the town we would encourage them to individual casca of hardship should not than the foreign dollar, it is not possible Australia wars fairly and justis treated. that the boats to be obtained from the lank upon it as their tome rather than as a tre allowed to divers she wind from the that any los will be austatud Bereby

house. On consideration of the matter the Ga-ing the reasons. Therefore, I think in giving- arbeide may not bein proportion to the outlay foreign country in which they happen to he main question, which is, whether by medical What this meats wo dust confess we de feel sore is point on tinh cho Camissioner verament ses no reason why any distiction should way so far as to increase the naabers com

The only which the taind. M. CRATER will be tubife to show domiciled. We are apeking now only with inspection any considerable diminution or not know. Who is to pay for the minting, doubtedly regard asa grievance. In the report both kinds of houses, and there really can be Certainly if there in any macosity of Lering sun Forurasa te, and this they be made. It is mossary to control and regalate posing this board & mistake has been made, Sr.ch uch actors thatall such fears are rareform to legislation highs the tendere such objectors thatall such fears are visionary. reference to monicipal matters, and not with modification of disease can be brought about. and where does the quia come in ? Why of the interview at Brisbane above referred no hardship in the operation of the clauses representative body this necessity should ha

is probable-that-row-lot owners may pro-safarmer to legislation. Toe distinction is The Commissioners on this point sig

will the value of the dollar tise? To these to we find the following The poll-taxes so they seem to think. It is necessary, from shown. Now if the members nominated dould be f more than others—that is, indeed, inevit- an important one, and one which the tendere able--but due to the weekly emarination of malt ont of stay

We therafors think that the benefit which can fairly questions we find no answer in the memorial, in the respective colonies were naturally re

brothel not Ge-in ragard to these regulations there will be fall there wenkd be so ramon for trying to get find no answer in the memorial, in the respective salonies were naturally re. what we hare heard of these coolie houses, to shown to be the creatures of the Government and solent. Mr. CHATER is confident that in of the representative movement would de bostringed to the brotant laws are those directly The mercantile shares will not be likely to ferred to. It was vol surprising that the Ge- make osrtain regulations ropasting them, sad simply carrying out the opinions of the Governor ho case will any of the land reclaimed soll well to boar in mind. Notwithstanding the large body of prostitutes, and the frobable discovery buy up the new evine, of which they will get neral objected in emphatio tones to the pull-opportunity for discussion; and when they see aether body of mon. It seems to me if you

a ali coins, not sure que

foot logic of the Acting Chief Justice, the efforts of disease at an serly stage and they serrogation of less than ninety-vight for every hundred tax. He regarded it as very aufvir, more es- them I think they will find they are not prejudicial begin in this way you are framing a consti- while the cost of reclamation will not exceed of the public ought for the present to be the women found diseased until they are cured.*.*.

Wo rauat asb be baken to imply that like resalta might

Mericans, and have all the trouble of ad pecially when the treatment of Europeans isi ta thaiz interests. With respect to clausetation and not framing it or a logical basis. half the amount. The accurity of this directed towards securing representatiou in rot lava been branght abort without the interven justing their secounts without any corres China was very different. On all goods in we have sine received some objections, and in It is objected now that the Crown lessees natiumte be te prepared, we believe, to prove uni

Municipal insiters, leaving the question of tior of the law. In the first place wo are disposed to Bonding advantages. The Mexinse is in pus ported by Europeans for their own use noordar

order to meet them i move that the words "or should not be allowed to elect the members. by ourfully worked out figuEck Some of representation in the legislature netouched think that whatever good the purely sanitary rarela session of the field, and will beep it, until a duty was charged by the Obiseed authorities, shopmus" ba inserted after the words "domesti na originally propesod bocznes enreoty

a of thr their

shopmoment then the land will on the other bind be worth for the present. At the commencement zouvalued by the leonting system, while, bs beter and cheaper coiu makes ita appearance neither on drinkables, eatables, nur wasr-HO. P-CHAT-I proposs, Sir, that after but if you have representation it should bo

tors of the Ordinancs may do, is, to a great erfaut, montrained want Borvants."

five per cent of the olsators would be Chineyo. more than treble the value above camed, and of this article we said the battle of fuisg wonton within a narrow compass, inors or until the Government is strong enough to ables, asid the General. He admitted that the the word shopmen" the words "artisaus or non property qualifcation. and the power

tree of lost-ing disease; wo see no 7010

course the fortunate owners will reap a popular representation had heen lost. ing digger and in the second place wo se esas prohibit the circulation of foreign coins in effect of the pull-tares would be in repress beare

had been lost. their opportunition of both getting and manicat prohibit the circulation of foreign coins in effect of the pull-taxes would be to repress bearers omplayed in the oraction of any build of slotion should us given to then who goodly rewaul for their enterprises lost.theie opportunities of het eetling and goodly reward for their enterprise. It is in- The statement requires some qualification, to danht that the woman, would, if not, ismured in farour of a national currency. tended Rear bruses, as we believe that those in salieansed

Chinese immigration, and even at present be ing" be inserted. We don't want in any way to have a stake in the Colary. The idea of te that no lot owner shall reap any Two members of the new Stuitary Rusril Aromed boat the women, would, if not cured in farour of a national currents.

gathered from the census reports that the increase the east of building longes, and it borses popolarising the Board by the introduction of fortuitous advantage through the formation to hold their seats by popular election. Two buses do, resort freol snough to their own deniers

the census of his lot, but the line will be drawn members out of tea! It is not much, cer-connement which they datest, is oon in which they

whosa treatment in not with a gyetem of THE NEW GOVERNOR OF THE

number of his countryman in Avstralia was are to be built and repaired the artisans and the elective principle is founded upon the opinion Bt they at right angles with the water frontages of cainly, but it is the thin end of the wedge.balive, and in which, so far as we can see, sy hare

on the decline. In every town visited the labourers have to be accommodated somewhere that we onld base & Municipal Council here. STRAITS SETTLEMENTS.

samne note has been very town visited the labor be built and repaired and if bones popularis saing note has been sounded with reference near where the work is goin on. If these words Now that opinion bas andaabtedly aria from the existing lets so that no injustice And now look at the illogical position theory right to place sunfidenes, may

be done to any owner. I till Government has taken up. If two wambers The women might, as the Commissionera Sir CECIL OLEMENTI Sara is not only to the poll-tax, But. General Word can put in it would not altor the clause rare what scents at Singapore and probably at

a WONG Con-meh, and would reduce the gost of building. perimpe be well for any dis-enting Marino may be elected, why not four or any other suggest, consult native aneters when they capable but he has also been a very farinnate pitted a serious blunder when he referred in

Arin may be elected, why not fout or any other found themselves disoaned, but it does not in the records of the Colonial service of an Chinese in Australis,

bas also be a very farinnate

The ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL-White lo: owner to take special note of the follow-number! But, says the Acting Attorney los owner to take ention in the letter of the ference, because the secepted ulice under-prostitution could not be ignoreover, benous boned, atlain a Fd administrators, dustries. More

take special noto of the follow number? But, asys the Acting Attorney found themselves diseased, but it does not ficial. There are, we auppias, few instances the treatment of Europeans in China and the building is going on are they lodged in any ing significant intimation in the letter of the General, it really docs not make any dif. follow that they would gasse to have come in the records of the Colonial service of an compared it with the treatmost of the permanent structure?

What is bo Acting Colonial Secretary: I am to add ference, because the uomines of the Governor,munication with men. The number of cases oficial so quickly climbing from the Serenesa that whist the Government would prefer when onca ha has accepted udice and is of women who have deen detected practising by a Hoa C. F. CHAIRR-B1t there may be a va Acting Colonial Seretsent would prefer when once ha bas sccepted office and in prostitution while in a state of disease of in Downing Street, marked out for profat-counot travel in the interior without piss-hare to soapy that hous

prefer having this great scheme carried out in its dent; and in support of his argues show the contrary. It would, moreover, beat one boned, atlain a post which is usually are debarred from having this great scheme zatried out in ita member of the Board, is perfectly indepen-prostitution while in a state of disease of That Sir CRCIL SMITH was it high favour They are confined to a few poris put in a permanent structure.""

DownCL entirety by the Marine Lat bolders them. den; and in support of his argumans he which they could not be ignorant tends to in Downing Street, marked out for profet where they are permitted to trade; they

cant house adjoining at the time and they may five Commissioners who are a body-corporate seives, in preference to undertaking the re points to the unofficial members of the Le show the contrary. It would, moreover, be tent, was woll koown; but that be should, cannot travel in the interior without pass- selves, in preference to undertaking the re- points to the unofficial members of the unseasonable to expect to find. conscience so at ere boned, attain a post which is usually are debarred from the establishment of in-would not apply, then, it merely a temporary mory is connection with reads. clamation as a Public Work at its own risk, gislative Council, who have never looked lip-sonable to expect to find couscience so any give

ke Boat a Forte; and to all intents and purposes ther

any given to experienced

The AcTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL-This power of assessing taxes and spending it have un it would bare do objection in the general on themselves as the mere mouthpiece of the highly developed amongst reatures who only given to experienced administrators, are debatred from the establishment of in- would xict apply, then, it merely interests of the colong, should a minority Government. Well, if this be so, if the ear their living by the practice of vice who have passed the customary translation dustries. More especially are they debarred lodging.

bridges, &o. Undor the old syalem before refuse to join in the scherne, to exercise the members appointed by the Governor are as The essential point to be observed is the through the smaller colonies, is certainly, from pursuing the occupation of mining. His EXCELLENCY-I don't think this would the Sottioments were made into a Crowe Colony

szeroise the members appointed by the Governor are to pulsory segregation of women infected good fortune, Oring to deaths and retire on un absolare equality with the Europeats in connection with our fortifications. They gat

nly Tas Chinese in Australia, having once paid apply. I am perfectly conversant with what the there were five Commissionera and there are reclamation itself in with Fights of the Crown and to undertake the free and independent as they would be if pulsory segregation of women infected while a tribute to his capacity, a piece of rare

conjunction with the elected by the ratepayers, why not lot the with disease so that they may not continue good fortune. Owing to deaths and retire their poll-tax and got into the ecuntry, are hou, member has been speaking of because we still five, but the resident Councillor was Chair

reave in Consenting jority of the lot owners." ratepayers elect them? Ent General to spread it. This is in the interest of the Tents there is just now a scarcity of experi- on a absolute equality with the European have to deal with a great many of these people war and had the control of nearly everything There will, however, we trust, be no aceiasisw of the freedom and independence of the sections urged against the Acts, it appears to exchange South Australia for Hongkong, used to some purpose in America, the Chi-

and nearly every resolution had to be salinitted in the eye of the hw, they are allowed to accommodated in matcheda. I don't think this to the approval of the Governor. To adopt a There will, however, we trust, be no necessity CAMERON does not seem to take the muse omon themselvesus much se of the mor who to boletus tule Arries, and the

of the mor who enced Governors is an

or who enced Governors in the Aerrier, and the overran the gold fields, and any branch isage would apply to wast the hot member has municipality here as there we should have faz recourse to auch a mansure. The Marine iw of the freedom and independence of the frequent brothels. With regard to the moral tropical colonies are not coretal by all of of indusits

gard to the moral tropical colonies are not coretal by all of lot owners will as a body, when they come agminee members. Like a bluut old soldier, objections urged against the Acts, it appears Cials. Thus Sir WILLIAM ROBINSON declined of industry or auterprise in open to then. bean speaking of to examine we azli to examine befeguarded but that if the interests of verament propermination it with Commission, that Straits Settel native states connected comed if they

Ho, C. P. CHATEs did not press his amзud. Legislative Council having control of the funds to run the project, and see that not only be frankly admits bat his opposition to the hardie eredible that women who will all to exebauge South Australia for Hongkong. If this argument to used, and it has been

of the Colony you would have to place them in are their interests safeguarded but that if elective principle is based on the belief that their persons to all comers should feel at all and it is probable that the Straite Sottlosed to some purpose in America, the Chi-mant. they co-operate in the work they will make a served by giving the Government "proper kominatico it would appear, according to the whom the rule of the Colony kno

BOIS WAS also refused by some other China GENERAL

nese hare andoubtedly much the worse que

e

The sub-section was passed with the amend the hands of a municipality. No doubt at Singa handsome proft on their investment, be only confer the board. What does "pro-man before the Commission, that Straits Settlements could be entrusted traders, who in fact would be expris they co-operate in the work they will anake a the interests of the publia will be better outraged by a medical exausiantion. Al- cast18 handsome profit on their investment, be only served by giving the Government proper though it is said the women do object to this Governor sattled in a more favoured In Goins practically no foreigners but ment proposed by the Aero Arrotzer pore they have fire commissioners and only 100 ready to accept their abate of responsibility, andre at There comed if they came alone; the objection

are. Moreo

are tolerated;

two of them nominated by the Governor, bat, as 1 loo ready to accept their share of responsibility. control" over the board. What does proxamination it would appear, according to the climate. Moreover, it is not every official to traders If they are indisposed to do so, there is littis per control" mean? As to the freedom and sense at least of the brothel keepers approve trots are overal native states connected traders, who in fact would be prefion is shall be no such person, then the immediate

The Connell then presseded to consider sub- say, this had its origia asfar back as thirty-five or If they are indisponed to do so, there is littls per control" mean? As to the freedom and evidence given before the Commission, that whom the rule of the Colony known as the either, in Ameries or Australia section claus

Cost wel-whole rule of the Colensory official to traders and is foreignere but ment Radridence given before the Commission, whom the forever, it is not overy official to traders and missionaris

as the there any

Australia section 9 of clause 3, defining "hannaholder" as forty years ago and it was considered nuneysssary doubt of their being able to realise and give independence of the nominee members, the at least

objection to Chinese follow The actual tenant

or usenpier of the to change It However, as the Attorney-Genera more specalaties capitalet the opportunity representativas of the Government appear of it. In any case, however, the public health re

There agerly wel whole of any building or in cases where there has maid, if members of Council think tas time wever, the public health with it, and many ined by the administrator class, who, it is all,mas. We have always shall be deemed finance" of making a little money in a safe and easy 10 be playing with words. Of course it is is the primary and paramount consideration, with it, and many interests-sometimes con-comed

to Teny There several native to be playing with words. Of course it is and ought not to be set aside for alleged at Singapore. Sir Czo Sara has several for the white working man. We have always shall be deemed the Householder and

Or is the primary and paramount consideration, with it, and many interests-sometimes concomed if they came alone; the objection is shall be no suck person, then the immediate has arrived for having a wider representation then it ought to be argood and the change ought known that the nominee members are not and ought not to be sat aside for alleged listing to be studied by the administrator the presence of the artizan and coolie landlord of the whole of suck building and compelled to vote as they are told, as the off-objections of women who have lost their af Singapore. Sir Ozon S12 has several class, who, it is said, lower the rate of wages the one of Corporations, Companies, and As to take place in this Connoil. If the people ought

the of modestyphications which iferuined would hear sighted and able mas, gifta alike and whether the European was not able to

pecial qualifications for the post. He is Eablo undor this Ordinance."

white working man. We have always apoiations the Secretary or Manager therent to be better represented it ought to be hera, in cial members of Council are, and in that sense modesty obfcations which iferawined would special qualifications for the post. He is 's MUNICIPAL SELF GOVERNMENT IN they are free and independent, but it does

to, we the laws are made they are free and independent, but it does in most cases be found to rest only os clear sighted and able that, giftart alike bad our doubts whether this really was so, shall be deemed the Householder and shall be this Council, the place where to be

and money raised and spent. The matter follow that they represent the views grounds of dislike to the trouble involved in with industry and tact, which should guide bold his son in coeurstition with the inte

| whether

The ACTING ATTORNET-GENERAL said- would thos have to go baforo the home sa bold his own in competition with the China There have been some objections raised to thorities, and if good reasons were showa why The battle of popular representation versus vacancy to occur to be Elle

of the community. Let us suppose a goingto the place of examination, rather than this safely through the difficulties which must antocratio Government has been fought dat peminat. of be no doubt. We have already quoted and subsequently in the Straits, should stand

ereus racapty to occur to be Elled up on these moral grounds. That the Acts, have a besss an administrator in the Straite Settleman notwithstanding the lower style of living this aah-sation. I am quite willing to add "for there should be representation it would be grant

Settle-adopted autocratie Government has been fought eat nomination of the Governor. Out of the good effect in diminishing disease there can Chinese character, in the Legislative Couneed on some future Excellenfelect one who is favourably rather effect of monien of the low lich countly he has hati at gislative Council and has been loat. gentlemen qualified to fill it will not His opinions of the medics authorities of the aim to good stead iu governing a population ciation, who waited on the Queensland wrote after the words immediate, Landlord in the Legislative bono sbord stand

adopted by the latter. Our views in this the purposes of this Ordtannos. The hon. ed vodoubt. On the repesentation of Sir George It will no doubt be renewed on some future Txcellency be likoly, other things banos navel and military departments as to its in which the Chiness-form-so large an ele-Chief becretary for the purpose of laying before There is no objection to that amendm

loat. gentlemen qualified to fill it will not His be no doubt. We have already quoted the Chinese charseter, gained first in Hongrong respect are to some extent confirmed by member (Hon. J. Bell-Irving) has given no- Bewan, the Justices of the Pence and the Chamber tice of an amendment to strike oat the words of Cumers were allowed to elect ne represents- occasion, when the result may reshape be equal, to select one who is favourably dispos navel and military departments as to its him. In good stead ju governing a population position, who waited on the Queenslanai ant or compler of and the words "of the Government would allow another mener to

renewed on some future qualified to fill it will not His bo no doubt. We have already quote can Chinese thus, thorough knowledge of the adopted by the latter. Our views for this anh-goation. I am quite willing to add

reshape be equal, to select one who is favourably dispos effect in Hongkong, where so call a proment. Even his knowledge of the Chinese hit the views of the Association in opposition

ure Excellensy be likoly, other things being picious of the medics authorities of the and subsequently in the Straits, should stand expression of opinion made 80 of hy nt of an amendme

"the actual ten- tive each. It might also, be that the kons different. For tire present, however, woed to the polioy of the Corernment, or portion of women of the town are brongat language will prove useful to him in his new to Chinese romigration. This deputation pre- The AOTING ATT must be content with what the Hon. Pthan one who has expressed himself in tens under examination. In Japan, which coun- post. Lastly, he has had the invainable entra to the Secretary a written statement of that sub-room bilding, be allowed to stand it without a proper qualificatie amput and for

policy of the Ctorarament, rather effect-it-Hongkong, so that tune which Employers." the whole after the words

rather

no-so-large an ele asociation, who waited on before t so ima promunt. amendment. RYBIE call a grandfatherly Government. of uncompromising hostility? It is small d

eely Gaston tisu one who has expressed himself in term's portion of women of the lows are brongat ment. Even his knowledge of the Chinese Chief becretary for the purpose of laying before There General G grandfatherly Government, so one who has expressed himself in tar portion ongkong, where so small a pro in which the Chising a population deputation of the Queensland Ye calls a that what its a good stead ju gove

of uncompromising hostility? It is smalt under examientien. In Japan, which language will prove useful to his in time him the views of the Association in opposition The sub-section was passed as amended. General CAMIZON 35e ha ta rery much in satisfaction to the community that at

uch in satisfaction to the community to that a try was formerly overrun with syphilis, Post. Lastly, he has had the invaluable to migration. This deputation pre- The ACTING ATTORNEY-GRYERAL moved to try to introduce the elective prinsipla, and it favour of people managing their own affairs, member is free and indeperty to snow this, the adoption of a similar law has led experience gaived when acting for nearly tavo sented to the Secretary a written statement of that sub-section 11 of clause 3, giving the de- is not logical that res should try to obtain, it

Ayphilis, post. Prove useful to him in Chinese Chief becretary for the pod on the Queensland Ant but nevertheless he does not think Hong-dom and independence is good, as it may be, in the disease, hath as regarda ite vir

free independent if that free we views in which the following

free-the

following passage oder for a work. Hong-dom and independence is need, as it may be, understanel, to a most marked decline are so Sie FREDERICK WELD's them their views in which the following passage oefinition of "now building," be allowed to stand it without a proper qualificative property robe kong can be trusted to manage its own saai in opposition to the public armeat. More-ulence and the number of sea. The red of the affairs of the Colony by the residents tried Chinese labourers is that the value in bare not best able to look at all the Acts yet, had some

decline goldeners WELD's tours:

I intend to rate against the amendment tation. The official phalanx datifally sup- conductable

in opposition to the public interest and is in the disease, hath as regarda ite vir teache, during which period he earned golden ours: We deny that the Chinese are at all over for a week.

interest and

His EXCELLENCE-This matter has not been the matinn ar it stood at the last meeting, ported His Excellency, and soris pr support of an unpopular Government. More-ulence and the number of casea. The real opinions. The sppreciation of bis conduct mors industrious than Europeans. The aquat tarted His Excellency, and series of over, do not the members who are appointed protested and unprotected districts in Rug- his departure for Ceylon in a banquat given ass than that obtained from Europeans." ported His Excel phalanx dutifally in appositiondence is need, sa it

quite sufficiently considered, has it

H EXCELLENT-Gentlemen. I hope alap dovernor feel under some personal so what you would gain by this amendment. The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENTEAL-No, we thought over this subject considerably. I have divisione gasolierty, and suppposition divisions gave a monotonously uniform of over, do not the members who are appointed test, however, is a comparison between the of the affairs of the Colony by the residenta invariable experience of employers who have divisions gave a monotonously uniform re-byn Jovernor feal under some parsausi protested and unprotected districts in Bug- of Singapore found expression just before tried Chinese labourers is that the value in

of Singapore found expression just before work, given for their wazos, is considorably specially, the Metropolitan Building Aot

been little experience in the Colony Bow sp, the six official votes on one side by a governor feel under precision of his conduct more industrious than Europeans. That all

the air official votes on one side and obligation to bins for the honour and is not land. The result is invariably favourable to his departure for Carlon in a banquet given less than that obtained frous Buropeans," Considoration, of the clanse, was adjourned the five ureficial votes on the other. It the sense of obligation in itself repugnant to the ratio of diecare amongst the troops incited at the Colonial Office, and the then in association and by voluntarily dispensing Board shall consist of the Surveyor-General, the

are not been able to look at all the Acts must be frankly admitted that the feat the sense of obligation in itself repugnant to the Auls. In the year 1881, for instance, to his, which was of a most representative ess than that obtained from Europeans," must be frankly admitted that the official freedom and independence? As one Governor

character. Naturally the facts were daly character. Naturally the Etots were dule But, the statement goes on to say, the Chi-socordingly.

We are in our infancy here as regards sanita- Road the best of it as regards debating opugnant to

The Council then proceeded to result would be that landlords, the power. In fact the unt regard debating goes away and another comes the sense of the protected districts was 74 per the sand, aited at the Colonial Office, and the then een "compete with Europeans by working

of the protected districts was 75 per thousand. Acting Governor has now received bis rerad with conforts and decencies which white Registrar General, the Captain Superintendent are. Free as they

4, as follows The passors of property, would be represented on o obligation naturally west off, but it the while in the unprotected distrions it used. Acting Governor has now received his attain association and by voluntarily dispersing clause, which read to disquietion, and the attempt to support their position by argu- hardly fail to be in active operation for soms In the face of figures like these it is difficult probably very much sooner thina ke 01-min

Board shall consist of the Surveyor-General, the the Sagitary Board. We all know what elestioas ment, if we leave out of account the few time: What is wasted is that the tuembers to understand how a man with any regarded

account the few time: What is wanted is that the tour to the public health, ut vuly of the presens too official when Golenial Secretary there, combination: The most interesting point, Corners and one by the Justions of the Peace, seleuted

sultpected. not more England, hard as the State has tried to make are in our own country. in disconnected nou exited reciarks of the of the Sardisty Board should be elected of to the public health, nut paly of the present calemporary that Sir CEL SAITH was made of this power of the Chinese for being Chinese) shall by appointed by the know perfeglly well what it comes to, that the

wanted is that the members to understand how a man with any regard pected. It has been stated by a Singapore men will not forego except under the pros of Polios the Coldnisi. Surgeon, and

WAS of shaolute pauperise." A good deal than six silditional members, tour of whom (two electors perfectly from and has tried to Hon. P. Ryzat in reply the Acting Go the ratepayere. They would their or sanction the removal of the safeguards the same complaint used to be made is this grounds, which is formulated as follows:

Go the ratepajere. They would then he rehat of succeeding generations. As advocate 100 official when Colonial Secretary there, made of this power of the Chi2008- for being Chiness shall be appointed by the know perfaglly well what it comes to, that the veraur's

ratepayers. They would then he re infancy. The unofficial members were

orque's reference to the colony haing in its presentative mearbers and would owe their or sanction the removal of the safeguarda and this is no doubs true to some extent, as biosti: The most interesting point, Garsener, and one elected by the Chamber of men of money and property are those generally

The unofficial members were seats to the fact that they represented papu-

afforded by the Catagious Diseases Acts. ented papu. afforded by

towever, objecti undoubtedly on the right track to seeking lar views and aspirations, and not to the test

the same complaint used to be made in this over, is the objection taken on sovial Commerce and one by the Justions of the Pence, selected. We find very few working men re- Delons, but this is a winor fans and sale grounds, which is formulated as follows: Non-ofisial members of the Board shall hold presenting us in England, and we know per Oolong; shallo to extend the elective element, and it is to that they offered themselves as useful tools

Cainly will not in a winor fanlt, and cer- tainly will not interfere with his doing bia "hey come here without wives and aro ad- office for three years."

footly well as we imagine-this Government CHANG CHIA-TUNG'S PROPOSED

atment to promote the interests of the dicted to the worst forms of sexual vice. In the worst forms of sexual vice. In

The ACTING ATTORNET-GENERAL-I befiers thinks it knows-what that representative- colouy, CHINESE DOLLAR.

Board, as you call it, would be. We cannot or prevent bim administering ite affairs with towns Chinese invariably hard together, and there is an amendment to this plause.

Hon. C. P. ORATER-Since sending in my help thinking that with regard to the in- discretion and impartialing discretion and impartially. Official or not form alumns of the worst type, which become amendarat, I have thought the mattor over and teresis of averybody--the Garrison, the Navy, When it was announced by a home paper is unnur, Sir Cacat Surze knows how to matres of moral and sucial degradation. am of opinion that perhaps it wanid be better to the people who pass through the Colony

announced by a home paper make bimself agreeable, and will, we bopeters in of the worst kind. They form

is user, Sir Crit Sa 10 to The sccial influence of these Chinese quar-substitate the following The Board: susll and the pour for whom we legislate-we think a month or twa age that & mint for the of principle, and ured somu trong THE WORKING OF THE CONTAGIOUS esiasgo of silver dollars was to be established not only preserve his present popularity un-of support for all that is most degraded in General, the Captain Superintendent of Police, the regulation of sanitation under the Bosed as

a mint for the make bimself agreeable, and will, we

bepe, tors is of the worst kind. They form centres consist of the Surveyor-General, the Registrar- they will all be very much bettor off as regards al Canton, our inquiries from Chiness impaired, but manage to increase it when he sources led us to believe that the statement ccende Sir FREDERICK WELD. We con- the European population. To thena alame

ams the Colonial Surgeon, and six ann-offcial mem- the Government proposes to constitute it. are by no means impregnable. The unofficial

berz, two of when tone being Chinese) shall be than under such a Board as, apparently, some of gratulata dur friends in the Straits Settle-European women are drawn, who deveing into elected by the Crown lessees or their agente in the members would wish to poastitats it. There had its foundation in a hisapprehension, ratulat members ask for a measure of representa- tite Govermatat su far as the municipal medical examination of prostitutes is to be ordered as stated, it was only on a small understaude their condition and require sun in our town, though not

to Chinees openly The announcement that the compulsory and that if miuting machinery bad basements not only upon the acquisition of a the most de based type of courtesan, and belted by the Crown lessees or their agente in the members would wish

baen mee not only won the acquisition of a come in turn sources of unspeakable moral and two (of whom one shall be Chinese) by such poss, at home as e Municipal Sanitary Board. be-Hongkong, two by the Jestions of the Pere, is no such arbitrary body of men. I sup | tire, hardworking Governor who thoroughly come in term sources affairs of the colory are concerned; the suspended cannot fail to raises grave appre-scale and for experimental purposes. It understande

amzil hardworking Governor who thoroughly contamination. Experience shows that a taxpayors on are included in the Special and I suppose we all have to guffor

| Acting Chief Justice gives thera a little honsions in the minds of the uavat and mili- appears, however, that a full plant has been ments, but also upon a great delivesce very disorderly, becomes a human desapool ja as are exempted from serving on jacies by reason educated in the first instance, I don't know It understands their condition and require Chinees shun in our town, though not openly Common Jury Liste of this colony or such others have been edastad. They required to be tall beguments, uposa

Chinees sun in our

They legio and tells them to be satisfied with targ aathorities. For some time pass there ordered, capable of striking of 80,000,000 Lent these words should be wrongly inter. very disorderly, becomes and tell them to be satisfied wonsione in the winds of the grave appro-scale and for it was only on a small hardworking the acquisition of a the most de based tra thaz. Logic is sil weer well in its way, but have buon remoure that a docje.on to this dollars a fear. In auther column we se preted we may expisin that they slide, not which mayal disease saumes its most mulig-

this dollars a fear. In auther column we re to the highly respected departing Governor powerless against the irresistible tendency that the arrangement now proposed would be where people live and die, where

re:

which moral disease professional avocations

exactly the history of all these Municipal Heavie it is not everything. It way to logically de-effect had been arrived at at the Colonial produce the memorial of the Viceroy of the to the highly respected departing Governor Danfectious type. Sanitary Inwa are ing the amendment that I think on consideration them and now in all those hoy pointed ont d monstrated that a mu is cite the absence from the Score The order is peremptory only fear the coarser has bo back thpt be monstrated that a ma to

Hon. A. P. MACEWEN-I may say in eocond-at home, but the way is clearly eat to a whole Office. A despatch bas Bow

Dant and infectionsumes its most mulig of their apted from servingeny or suck others use we all u is entitled to a whole Office. A despatch has now been received Two Kwang on the subject. His Excellency but to the threatened imposition upon them powerless against the irresistible tendency the leaf, but he would be a foal who in the absence from the Secretary of State which sate all UBANG CHIN-TUNG has ordered the ma. of the malapert little bure of Mauritius.

of the Chinese to herd together. Nothing more satisfactory then giving so mech power to family is most jealous as regards the opera of the whole loaf refused balf. dr. doubts at rest. The order is peremptory chinery on bis own responsibility, and it is

a father of but the enforcement of special laws, appli arown lessee. I am given to understand the time of all the rales relating to unitat Justice Resorts argues that if thin Colony is that the medical-crutation is to use. It only after the coarser has been optered into HE CHINESE OMNISSIONERS IN do this. Bush special laws, for the regu- atleast stenty-five per cent of themare Chinese, foolings which we hope sometimes prepondersta

acial laws, applices or proposed would cable to the Chinese-only, would suffer to brown fosse subor about two thousand and that as effecting his wife and children and as --- entitled to representation at all it is in the is to come into effect oir the 1st of next and when it is too late to draw back thpt be Legislative Council, and that it is therefore weath, and the reaalt must inevitably he applies to the Throne for approval of the

iation of only ons plaas in the community, Therefore I think to allow the crown lastens over the interosta of propertyI don't know illogicnt, while representation is denied there, Jarge increase of disease amongst the men of aaheme. The proposal is that a national curs

would be repugnant to our whole system of be lost four members would be placage too much that there is anybody more arbitrary and more to attempt

to webure it in another body. The the asyal sad military establishments so rency should be established, and the Viceroy inquiring into the circumstances of the Quitioned by the reviewer on this point, said amendment

The Chinese Commissioners who have been governmeal, General Wora, being quear in the hands of the Chinese. I think the down on the landlord not fulfilling his duty than Dment General Wore, being ques- present amendment of the hon. member is more what you call Junioipal Board of Health, unofficial embers of Council would doubt we!! as sungat the civil population. In of a fiatact province takes it upon himself nese is Australia, having successively vited"The squalor and misery of the Chinese

polosy like this, where the male population to settle the fend and order the wint. The New South Wales, Melbourne and South quartere von entirely the fault of the legal the proposition. The proposal seems to be a tale trying to load the Colony to educate the Colony Well, we are young as regards sanitation and I Hon. P. Braix am very glad to support think we are doing our best to show that we w

way.

Rido

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tarist to be Governor of a first class Colony. condition of Europoons in China? The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL-We have

our

be regretted that none of them felt equal to to the Government or, it may be, bad made meeting the arguments of the Government themselves socially agreeable at Government in debate. The speech of the Actine Obief House

Justice was the most important one of the

day. His Honour dealt with the question

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argamonts against the proposed atendiment.

of principle, and posed a trendient

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