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MAIL SUPPLEMENT TO THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS.

THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE FINANCES OF THE QOLONY.

HONGKONG, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1271, 1886.

item by item was plainly visible at this meet- Iconolusive so far as tho extent of his agree-ban which the.oxisting Customs Service (ar 1967, with their petinted cost.

the affect of the votes.

to notice the general posities of the colony

items.

the. Counsellor's later wisdom; we are not it official tronld be at the hard of this Committee word laid on the tabla and taken u

as regards its finances and projected public THE REGULATION OF THE STREET works. According to the Colonial Trezancer

“” ”

TRAFFIC IN HONGKONG.

it has not given universal satisfaction the

****ferenca to it

1-That Felice Station te

Now, is not difficult to fix the liity in obtaining te crowded with the Custoips were and the currency is, to contest barrels for the Polleo ne embody the English Newspaper Art in n

at the foot

before the Conncil.

it.

His EXCELLENer-That soheme. Impe, will be laid befare fan Council at its next meeting. It has not been possible to get it ready for this. meeting.

LICATLES FOR THE DREDGER,

The SURVEYOR GENERAL said the work would = be done by tender, and of course cars would be. ment had its own lighters they might all bo dex- taker to secure the best terms. If the Gorera- troyed in a typhoon, whereas by continuing to charier they aroided risk of loss from his case. subjact He was, however, open to any enggestion on the

to $12 a year on account of the great damage done by with it firmly fired upon our minds that the though I did not think that a Chines: mehanic proptring the Eetiraates for 1988. I have not Hon. A. P. MacEwin-With your permission oar indictment and a vindication of his action ment, no such dangers need bu appro- veleles to the readin, and the great competition muller would be thms taken up, and that a would not be anfficiently competent to look after got the money to spare for it.

Elan Mr. MOREIRIN OLG offer EMGROES

motion would be made hoins the Council'] the cugine and boiler in themelves, yet I mast during the HRRAT régime. The public bended.

The Committe: nuo suggest that a larger amber at an early date for the introduction of the say I should be afraid to trust him with the work I will anggest at the part wasting moans of vais- are now in posmasion of the learned Counsel the chief opponcats of the surrender of the

He Licenses might be insted.

"It was anggested to the hon. gentleman that The Committee will be glad to see a list of Public English in It done appunt by ono papar of transporting the dredging, and spreading the ing the money. The advantage of the procedure adopted by lor's ciowe and of the motives which ho says existing Offices, conceded this much.

official members, but I am no rollection of afions in connection with the four or five barges might make a motion on the subject, wkom the Acting Governor in taking the votes of governed his selfons in that arentful poriod, said: The extraordinarily successful man-Werke iz contemplation, notincluded in the Estimates that the metion was the rande by the in-material on the foreshore, and the different oper the Legislative Council on the Estimates His statements may perhaps be somewhat in-uer in

Hon. A. P. NACEWEN should like to make anything of that kind being said, and certainly which are always alongside the atraza deadgar. opon he proposed that the rate he increased to been managed by the present Inspector.

there is no mention of in this report. I ricofHowaror, this is a question I shall be very happy 825,000.

IT EXCELLONOV-Yon cannot propose a a could feal sure, a few remarks with regard to the states. ing on the Lat inst. Under the old system, mant with the hit the gateral explanation is that he would for a long time remain in continuates-in-general, or us to particular items f

of Govornor HENNY General is such that if ona

His EXCELLENOY-Are ly as to the Eslect distinctly, the evening the Council mot, to tan into consideration.

walking down to the Club with Mr. Jackson, and The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL-This vote of money. It is out of order”, -

Hon. A. F. MACEWEN-Woll. I move that mattor was discussed at length in the Fhinoce when the Estimates were taken en bloc, a is s concerned; bat the

I think the

Nothing trol of ttis nus Postal Service, It dazon enbjects mig

purpose. be under discussion at frank enough, and to ra s might b

The CHIEF JUSTIC-I think the hon, mem-Committee The Viglacera duties, a my hon--the matter be taken into consideration.

His EXCELLENCY-You makes recommenda the same time, whoren nader the new system further moed be said or un on the subject; would be impossible for any body of men on AP: MACEWEN A patioslar his romari to me as We shall never

The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENREAL-I think bur is out of order, as he is anticipating an friend we just explained, ars not merely to look each one is discussed separately, thereby the question has beez thoroughly ventilated; oppose it they have such great faith in bis

raising discussion upon it, which he wontd not be intondent of the drudging business. It was

The Car Justick-I think it would be the same efore the Council, enabling the members to express their views and it only remains for the Bouch of Justices individual integrity, sad ability to

allowed to do after the answer was given. thought that if Chinaman were put in charge

better to let this matter stand over for the pre- with greater clearass and giving the public to decide which of the two candidates beat these things. But they are not the they had better bo disoned when the Bilicones answer that will be made to his question, and after the sugitea bat as u head man, or super- tion sud I tell you I engrst I emnet approve MINUTE OF FINANCE COMMITTEE.

Hon. P. RY-Is that out of order

ia tent position he would not have the samo an

sent. We considered it in Finnner Commition a better opportunity of understanding recommends himselt to their choien. Malgrs faith in the ability of the native official to do

His EXCELLENCY-It is out of order.

thority with respect to the barges or junks am and undoubtedly before very long the Various questions

The minutes of two meetings of the Finance

The CENT JUSTICE-It is open to the hon. ployed which, uke away the mud dredged up.sed we considered bosides the loan thatisalrandy!

There were some portions of ex of interest were

at e discussed

the weating, inclined to alter our opinion as to the direc

and it would be impossible to persuade the road. Une, referring to the Supplementary Estimber to profies bis remarks by anything hand to as the whole work done and properly taken up. which we will refer to in detail hores tion in which the Justices" votes will set.

native official that a Post Office must be man-matos for 1955, was merely formal, and the other, chooses, bet not rakaan segment per a cup carried out. But really the person who is called ditars on oxtraordinary wablis works wo thought gineer in tas import is the saperictondsut, and wight be covered hy the loan, and other works after, but is the meantime it asy be aseful

aged entirely for the benefit of the public." referring to the Estimates for 1987, simply am-posititicus nnewer

Hon. P. RYKIE-Im referring to a rumbur.has the management of tho whole matter. This which could not, and we asked that the Serveyor. The CHIEF JUSTIC-A ramar as to a sup-altor, as I have said, was fully coa sidored by the General and the Troisurer should furnish us with The Custotas already conduct a Past Service bodied the report given above.

Finance Committee, who, waifo willing, if possi- full partionists as to the way in which this loan to somo of the northern ports, and though

posed answer. POLICE STATION AT MOUKT GOUGH. the colony in pledged to public works to the

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY Mevol Hon, PBY-Of course I bow to the ruling ble, to make a saving sailor this hear, did not was to be spect, how much iucnry world bars. traordinary works, and a list of the works they extent of $3,000,000, and the hon. gentleman Thesppointment of a Committee to consider reason probably is that there are no special

The SURVEYOR-GENERAL-I think the whole esasidemad nenessary, in order that we might expresses the hope that we are not going to the question of the regulation of public men detailed for the work. If a large scheme that $17,000 ho voted for a Police Station at of the obair, and as I has wothing father to their way to entrusting the management of quired after the town was spent in need the ar work, to quote au old ballad of Sir WALTER vehicles is a stop in the right direc for a National Fest Office be carried into sf. Mount Gough, and read the following minta by remark than what I have already stated, I put this droging business to à Chiazom.

city in

Te it the intention of the Government to redeem bho thing lies in the miscomer of aliing the man in discuss thom and form soms opinion on the of dio. Thers is probably

the tent, we may rely upon it that Sir ROBBET His Excellency the Acting Governor with ro the question:--

pimise given by the Attorney-General to the Un-u. abarge the engineer. I think he should be called and make some resinmendations to the Go

vermont. It would be rather premuture ta SCOTT, "tothe tane,as was fitting, of world where tho street traffic in

worse Hair will ge that the staff is both sufficient

The objections raised in 1943 by the Military Aur Meshary of Conmil previens to the bard read the overseer. the expense," "Well, without esactly

Boy. A. P. RACEWEN-My hon. friend has resumend the Government to spend $25,000 on the principle of "the expense," we reguinted than in Hongkong. The Finenes and efficient. As we have said above, the thoritice to the eviction on Mount Geagh of a per- jug of the Princes and Publishers Oct.ennes; 156.

sohome of extraordinary werks. hope the Council will not follow a pokering Committeg bng suggested that the number arguments brought forward at the meeting do want building as a Police Stalinn bare been with namely, that he would erbody the bigish Nawapapar na alinded to the $15,000 for dredging the on Wangneichong Valles until we got the whole

Act in an Ordinance to rols this temporary

His EXCELLENCY-We shall eem to that and timid policy, and sacritice the interests of purissus kicences might be increased, not Ravimi to ús strong enough to justity-the drawn on the understanding the buill on a plan sure; if so, when will the Bill be brought before foreshore.

to be approved by the Commanding Togal Fngineer toe Counti of the public to a nervous dread of incurring with the view of augmenting the revenue resolutions pused. Mr. PURDON has since,

so that it may be used, in care of need, ni bureauka

The AcnxG ATTORNEY-GENERAL-In an-presently. Does my bou. frisud wish to press liability. Sich works as are shown to be If this suggestion were acted on the existin a letter to the Daily News replying to note

for soldiers to defend the roucabt which will be

swer to that question I beg to state as follows: lis objection to this 12,000.

Hon. A. P. MacEWEN—Y#4, if anyone will constructed: virgently necessary should he proceeded withing disorder would become worse and worne criticism of his remarks, casually made ase

That if the Station in prezonantly Laken over The hou. member who has just put this question is speedily as possible provided funds for There is certainly up demand for more jin-of one perhaps more logical than all of those

rickstas.

st any fetare tice by the Military the sous will he is under a misapprehension in stating at the end it. I think it is a useless expendituro, So far from there ever being any attered at the meeting. He "Were safe basis. their execution can be raised on

A discussion was raised by the Hon. A. P rolubareed to the Ciril Government.

Attorney General gase a plodge that he would and that a Chinaman will do the work as woll one of these vehicles our Post Offices in the lamentable condition

IM EXCELLENCY My hon. friond'a motion I have therefore to ask the Council to rote the money

MACEWEK on the item of $15,000 for dredging 's-road

to supersede the more then, not second................... which it is enfe to borrow: it is sitaply the

is generally

Hoa--P. Rya-The dredger is a new in-forshores Phiz amount is for gargon bost hire. I have made enquiries. ability

of the colony to pay the charges for empty once loitering along in search of fares, would be the last to oppose a change Mount Gough in the place of the temporary, mat-ahed, Ordinance

The estimate for this work is $17,000 For this and and from information which I have ractived 1 stitution in Hongkong. I think in tuy the at the rate of $8 per bus per day. The liv interest and sinking fund on the loan. It and in any unhappy pedestrian he descried for the belter, but when wo have a reason there show is it

idal to go beyond this point, descending one of the streets lending down sponsible service under foreign control quarters will be provided for 1-carried icer or Ser- find that when the discussion took place Che A Surveyor-General will be able to find a Chinamo gentiaman thought it would be cheaper for the

which we have perfect confidence, I gest, 6 Essoppans, & Silche, and 3 Chinese hat the for the colony would then have to face the into that thoroughfare from the bill the in alteruntives of bankruptcy or increased taxa chunees urs that he will find bis passage at Fail to see the advantage of transferring force required to be on duty at this atatious. 4 Euro terasy-General explained that this was to now who is suficiently trustworthy to be sutrusted overnment to have lighters of its own.

2 convalescents of each eluce, and the antion will the Law Rarisien Committes, who had repro Chinnan to look after the engines and another tion. On the other hand, it is absurd to the batter blocked by a whole string of it to another set of foreigners under the Chios, & Sikhs, and 4 Chiross, there will be room in measure, but one which had been prepared by with the work; or he might perhaps have ena

Imben.

In London and we believo all cities neao." This, at all events, is an intelligible servo at the same time the parpeste of a Sallarino dared the vill vectminta with such amsadments as a sort of head boatman, which would be chea- stop shert of this point when the money Hom

from the existing English Law at bay recoin per than giving sae men $109 a meath.

The SURVEYOR GENERA-I Lave not yet Govaracaent Kenes, Hongkong, 2nd 84pt., 1896,

mended should be adopted here. The Attorney. is really required. All growing com-where the street traffic is subject to regula-objection, but is it not a selfish one? Ought for the Paline. tion loitering ja offence for which the we, because o

Dystem devised by ourselves

General stated that as the Council had armed found a Chinsuran in whom I could place af COMPASSIONATE Allowance, munition must necessarily burrow, because rivera of vehicles are liable to punishmont, works to our satisfaction, to opposé! ha acab. I the demands for public worke come so

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-I have the principle of the Bill by asensing to the sont confidence to entrust him with the pasi.

sacond reading it was too late to alter it then; in.

Hoa. P. Rrere thought it would be well if The subject then dropped.

the Government, had one or two lighters of its thick and fast that there is no space af. but in Hongkong'it seems to be rather en libment of a Chiaore Post Office which | forded for

eccaccalation of the funds pouraged than otherwise; cortainly no effort might not give us any greater advantages, next to move that the Council rote the expendi and that s the Bill was no new messary intro. the

ern, as this would make the earga boat people dared by then it was better to pass it in its then

THE PROPOSED JAY ROCE LIGHT. A few days ago we hat which is to be placed under foreign tare of $485 as a compassionate allowance to required to provide them, although there is made to stop it.

Hon. A. P. MAGEWEY-Under the head of moro moderate in their demands, as they would passing & resolution in favor of araiting the may be

to pay interest on counted to fewer than seven jintickabus management in order to ensure its success Mrs. Sampson, widow of the late First Boarding shape, and if any hon member could succeed in complete ability the capital

When a man wants &

The COLONIAL TREASUBER 8:Gouden). of Wyndham-street nou and in deference to the opinions of foreign Officer. required.

a aliong

provisions which were not now a force in Eng Lighthouses I should like to make & few obserra-think more were to be built. This was the z- at The Chinone Govern- the traffic residents in Chios interfering with house he does not wait until he can build

Hon. A P. MACEREN-Sir, with reference and, and of assimilating our law in regard to Lens. At the lam mosting of the Conncil perituce of drugs which had lighters of their one for hiraaolf; as renta

In the game

to that vote, I believe the san recommended by this subject the her asisting in England be way naked by the Chamber of Commeres to own but had to hire cargo beats versionally maintair, the coluar ought not to the Paling as the rebela ja in motionment do not show so much alacrity in malt.i

soulil introduce a Bill to that offent. There bring forward & resolution that the Govern when their own lighters were not sufficient for to be quite appear

of opinion that thing innovations that we should thros cold the Finance Committee was six months' pay- way, we

ther

water upon any step they may take in advance,

H'S EXCELLENCY-I would like to hear the upon all opposition was withdrawn and the Billment should place a lighthouse upon the Gap the work.

Since them the matter bas agkin bean wait until it can pay for all it wants out of the drawers are to

Гигов of picking

was passed. The Bill was passed on the 17th Rook. the have a better chance

and we fear the action of the Shanghai re reasons. to use the its accumulated funds, but ought, to

Hon. P. NERIE-Sir, looking at the great February, and instead of beursmitting it home laid before the Chamber, and a resolation has friend the Surveyor-General will to able to language of the advertisements, to "furnish loitering slang than they weald have if they nidents will not tend to oncourage them in

longth and meritorious character of the services at once as is usually dones, His Execlay the buen passed which, with a covering latter, make satisfactory arrangements by calling for on the hire aystem

stunda. "that borrow the

The a progressive policy. remained on the appointed

rendered by the deceased four, I think the Administrator waited till the 4th April to see has been forwarded to the Governmost two tendera for anne specified tius. Horers, it is are sub money to carry at the works and set aside annoyance to which foot passengers

Council should grant to his widow a liberal sa: whether any resolution wont be brought forward. or thron daye ngo. I de unt think there is annually a

a certain amount beyond the inter-jeated by the impurtuning of these indivi

but instead of that it seems to to that the In transmitting the Ordinance. His Excellency any occasion to allude to it farther in this Conn amount recommended is the smallest allowance wrote as follows: Par. 3 of Sec. of this Oeil as the letter sois ont fully what is the est as a sinking fand. The repagment is duals ought also to be put a stop to. ▲

by the anyone has previously received in respect of day disance encountered considerable opposition in opinion of the commercial community upon this The statement recently made spread over a number of years, and the foot passenger along Queen's-road is all the by a contincal succession of pertated by

effler who has served any length of time.

the progress of the Bill through Committee. It subject.

ITS EXCELLENT- I shall take an early opressed by the sam of $1642 for Reuter's It would be clearly unfair to make the pre-crise of fioksha, mig, licksha" with now Tientsin morrespondent of our Shanghai therefore on that ground if we can see our way into new provision. It was contended that burden does not fall on one generation only. time

Hi EXCELLENCY explained that this amount sent generation pay the whole cost of large and then a derisive query of no wanchee" morning contemporary to the effect that to do it, I think we might increase that allow it imposed unneccesary restrictions on printers portunity to forward the letter to the Souretary talegrams.

and publishers. In reply it was pointed out of Blate, and I think the recommendation is Mongol chint had recently arrived in Peking ance as the case is a sary deserving one. drawer. The number of

The CHIEF JUSTICE-It is not open to any that if that provision were aurited there would on to which I shall be able to giro my support. Ead been struck out originally because it the chief benefit, aspecially when 19 considered that whereas the population is way be done in the direction of raising the complaining that he had been dispossessed member to move that a vata be increased, but he ho to remedy in case of ibol, if at the time of Since the last meeting a visit has been made to was lutinatoil to him that the Chamber ef erritory by the Russians is interest-san movs a resolation recommending the ftor. pablication, the printer or publisher were away the spot, and now I am only waiting for the re-Commerce ware going to discontinue their at Canton or Mayo, as he could not be held port of the Commodore, of the Harbour Master, subscription, and as the Government only now 200,900 the works must ta common licence fee, is is certainly to be

scale which will no increase in the amber of articles will be ing but requires confirmation. The land oc ernment to increase a vote.

Hon. P. RYRIE-I will move that the Council criminally liable for what took place in his ab- and of the Surveyor-General. I will also for agreed to pay arquivalent sima to the prudence be carried cut on

the amount out. Int as the Chamber of make that recommendation. Your Excellener sanes. Eventually the opposition was withdrawn ward a copy of the report to the Chinese Gop- Chamber he had an alternative but to strike Commerna had decided to continue their sub- on the naderstanding that at same sukeoquenterament. puake them sufficient for a population of at allowed. The nuisance is perhaps more dis-cupied by thia Lama and bis tribe was, it is Least double that antebar. We are not bound agreeably felt at Pedder's Wharf than eise- etated, giren to them by the Chinese Gor will understand this is merely a recommendation

period a motion would be introduced by an on- where, and especially

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARI-The official mentor that it was desirable to consider Some conversation then epszed with regard scription he had an objection to re-insert the ine forry, bosts from Kowloon the even-ernment, and the Memorialist sesute to the Secretary of State. to pay for everything for our succesEDIS,

arrise. Sticks Russians had taken possession of it on the but we are bound to as our best

judgment in their behalf when comunting the colous have often to be need to fight a passage ground that the Earperor of China had veded Socretary of Stats would say be lid not know whether the Colonial law could not be still far to the Land Office being indled in the charges Stout and continue the paymont as beretofore,

to the Czar. The elarg sounds rather in the circumstances of the case, and that he would ther assimilated so that of England. No such of the Suprame Cuirt, and an altomation was

made by which the Land Oflce was treated a motion kus, however, been made.” to expenditure. Hitherto the Government through the crowd of jinriekshas and chairs it

sub-department of the Judicial department. Hon, A. P. MACEWEN-I beg to second the Booms to have givad too littla bend the that obstruct the agress from wharf. It probable, though as our Mascorite friends leave it to the Council.

ble motion of my hon, friend. I think, from what TAR SOFTLAMENTARY APPROPRIATION BILL something for the patience of those sub- are seldom troubled with scruples, and soffor

have heard in the Finance Commitin, (but that Russia has for years bad waterworks, the market; and other estab.inburents who folha oat by note frequently do the vehicles than the Ws are aware one to have become too small for the calls men in charge of them, though soch is sot bar eye on the Mongols, and has steadily pleasure in seconding the motion. wade upon them, and have to be replaced or always the case. The Colonial Treasurer at sought to acquire

go the Council

I meeting on Friday spoke also of Many tribes have indead passed under her supplemented by larger works at an expenso

colony. I drow the attention of the Finance Comshis one. I don't see, in a Crown Colony like a great part of which might in some of persous being torn to piccos on the whief be rale, and have found it in many senses better

His EXCELLENCw naked how naoh a large sup-mittee to the fact that the sum estimated to be this, that there is any ruskity for Crown the case have been saved had our pre-coolies fighting for their luggage. If persons than that of China, it having bean Russian

plementary sun required for that depart derived from this soarce amounts only to $3,900, Agents at all. It would be much better decessora Inaked a little farther into the fa- have not kourally boon torn to pieces they policy to conciliate those people. Yours eg

which I think fora population of 200.000 Chinese if the Government invited public tenders ment. tars than they did. It is clearly much more here and their bunte capsized and their lug. la gentleman well acquainted with what

The ACTING COLONIAL. TREASURER-The and 8,000 Europeus is a ridiculously small here for what they require from bome, amount is mainly made up of arrears of pay amount. It was suggested by the Finance Com ara are they would got it quite sobreply and advantageous to future generations to leave gage immersed in the barbour. More e-going on on the Northern frantier of China

all 3ebt and a supply of

of cient regulation

is urgently called for, and told us that a great portion of the Mongols

Iments to other countries, some countries being mittee that the fear on iuriokshas should be in-officiently, and they ought to do it in that way The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-I move vory slow is making eat their claims, and this is creased to 31 a month, and that the number of instead of giving it to the Crown Agents. I and throw off allegiance to China. Mr. GIL- public worke adequate to their requirements we hope the committee appointed on Friars quite prepared to accept Bassian rule for years to come than to throw on them the day will not be allowed to die a pair ore, in bis recent work

the that the Council give its authority to the exps-roally a re-vote. It enght to have been paid in licences should be increased to 600 jiniekshas would like to know whether, with referruse to the heavy burden of reconstructing those works death before it has elaborated a scheme

The COLONIAL TREASURER--This subject of His EXCELLENCv-I am unable to toll you. wistin & brief period. Hongkong bas in which will render the visitor's experience of Mongols," also testifies to the greater popo-ditare of 8513 for gas pipes, Fen lamps, and a 1833 and 1884, but in consequence of the amounts and 500 chairs if that weets with the approval loan, the Crown Agents would get one por cant.

larity of Russia xong thean people, and it platform for the use of the Baud at the Public not being wads up. it was unt paid sutil 1885. of your Excollones

Gardens. This hor boen before the Finance Those suas are dun for postage with other coun

Hon. A. P. Macliwes-It would make a con. oreased rapidly in the past, and it will in- our wharve and streets a little Jesa CD-therefore seems rather remarkable that the Committes, and all the circumstances have been tries, and some of the countries are vorg slow in | jínriekshax, or rather public sehioles, is one Ilhavs vzítton bom-about it.

making their claims. We could not pay there have had nader crusideration for several years

HIA EXCELLENCY-1 bava writing boteslov before because we did not know he ranch they past, and you may remember that some years ago siderable difference.

I submitted certain recommendations with re- amounted to; but they are mostly paid now.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY--I mors ference to it, which, however, were notaarried out. it, but I have not yet ronived any answer. this Pill be read u third time.

The subject is use that losartan consideration. Hon. P. RY-- think it hardly possible It is connector with one of our greatest faults in they would make that charge One-ighth per The COLONIAL TREASURER Sacoeded, and

the coluty, which is thut while we are vory cunt.. I think, would be sutleient.

The COLONIAL TREASURERI as under- comfortable ourselves we make no arrangements THE APPROPRIATION BILL. 1887.

for the comfort of strangers who are passing stood from the correspondence it was to be one- Hon. P. RYRIC-That is more raasonable, but through. We ourselves are not tormented by half per cont chair or jinrieksha cookies or torn to pieces on the wharf by persons fighting for var luggage, ovan that is high. It ought to be one-vighth - but all the things do bappa to strangers, and or one-quarter per cent.

The ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL-Thai in-

thos

is

there,

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by

satisfied, and

up

by

RUSSIA AND THE MONGOLS.

works from which future generations are to disappady too great, and whatever) and presented a memorial to the Throne

remp

pru

in

the time

boped bat bis territory

حمان

the

And

fast that the population is a growing objected to the annoyance that the blows fall scutely from land hunger, it may be post this is a most deserving case, and I laura much

and so the

them with

Crease more rapidly in the future. The trade piensant then it is at the present time.

admits the estimate.

POST OFFICE.

indaca among

them.

Among

The Acrine COLONIAL SECRETARY-After

hearing the recommendation of the two hot. mozibors his Excellency bas authorised me to double that sam, $879, which la.six months' pay. increase the amount of the gate from 3135 10

more that this aliurance to approred

The COLONIAL TREASURER Bonds. Carried.

THE BAND NIGHTS AT THE GARDENS.

explained.

The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded. Carried.

INTERPRETING IN THE COLONY,

His EXCELLENCY--My hon. friend on way luft

marke to the Council.

1885.

The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY—I now more that this Council go into Committee upon the Supplementary Appropriation Bill, 1885.

The Council went into Commitice, and upon the question of the supplementary vote to the Postinuster Gomoral

questions I The believe,

THE LAND OFFICE.

Hin EXCELLENCY-I bare no doubt my hon

anent to look into and do the best I can.

REUTER'S TELEGRAMS.

a matter I undertake on behalf of the Goveru

The vote for miscellaneon services "xas 'in.

THE CROWN AGENTS' REMUNERATION. Hon. A. P. MACEWEN-In the Ceanmission to Crowe Agents i notice an increase of THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.

$1,500. In Finance Committee I heard that Hun. A. P. MacEwen, on the vote for Police hitherto it has been the practice to pay the Crown Agents £200 por apaan. Now they ask being takou, said-Sir, under the head of Police I am advised come the "Registry of Carriages.for a guaranteed want of £100 and 1 per cent. etc.. Ordinance 6 of 1861, which really means commission. I don't know why taiscLaugh was the registry of chairs and jiuciskshas in the made; in fact I think myself, it is a very unclesdir.

commission on that.

Les great boon to personas passing through.juludes all the expossi

this matter I more that Hon. A. P. MACEWEN-May I ask ay itou.

to a ceramistan to inquire into it, with the Hou. Crown Agents allow all the discounts that are

Russians should adopt a course calculated Possibly the ai- of Chiau, a great proportion of which meat

so impair that popularity, necessarily pass through this port, is au su THE PROPOSED CHINESE NATIONALplanation is that the tribe in question being nusily growing one, and although we do

specially loyal to China was an obstele to consecting Canton expect t> ses a

Russian designs, and it was foreseen that with Honkow

this too is only s

the Hill was read a third time and passed. The public meeting heldat Shangbaion the their disposition might save as a pretest for (Hon. A. P. MacFwen) wishes to offer some re question of years, and when the idea is realis. 21st ult. to consider the proposal made

wanted and would, un- a quarrel--if one is

Hon. A. P. MACEWEN-Athe last mooting of ed the growth of the colony will be vastly

On the motion of the ACTING COLONIAL stimated. These are considerations which the Chinese Government to establish a Na-less resented by Chins, also toud to set the

tional Post Office, involving the withdrawal Mongols against her as being powerless to the Conudil, as to the subject of Europeau in- must be looked fairly in the face. It is of the Foreign. Fost Offices at Shanghai, and protect there. Hawever that tay be, we terpretare in the colony, it was suggested to me: SECRETARY the Council went into Committee true the estimated revenue for next year does offering to take over the Local Post Office at may be certain that, if the act of spoliation that it would be desirable that at this meeting I upon this Appropriation Bill for 1997

His EXCELLENCY Tenurled, on the first item. not show a very large margin over the estim

tport, hardly seems to have been an analoged bas really been committed, it has should move a popsittae should be appointed by ated expenditure, but the Colonial Tramortified success, even from the point of been affected in pursuanca of a deep design. the Corneil to inqules into the matter; but upon that there was no change in the ammat for if anything could be done in the matter it would)

moderats one, and view of

Ac-which comprehends the eventual absorption consideration, auf seing that the answere I re-the Governor's establishment. the opponents of the change. Ac- there can be little doubt that it will be largo-cording to the Daily Neise, the partners in a of that rast desert laad known as Mongolia scavod from the Governmcat to the quest ich lies at the solenial extitastes for expo- the whole question of public-vehicles be referred friend oa tay right (the Treasurer) whether the ly exceeded in the actual collection. It would large number of the best known British into the Russian dominions. The Peking has been sppointed by this Council and the ditura are not private documents, and this e-

be prudent, however, to saddle the colony firms took no part whatever, in the procced-Government doubtless Enow the denger Committee us to Public Works, sud the Commis maradum, showing the increase in rerunne, and 1. Bell-Irving, the Captain Superintendent of reosived. forthwith with a loan of $8,000,000, the full

Hon. A. P. MacEwrz seconded. amount required to cover the rest of the inge, while only one representaties of the which threstons them, but whether they are sion of Luquiry into the cargo boat matter, have the increase in expenditurs, seems to me to ox-Polica, the Registrar-Concral, and myself as

erica, two of the German, and one of taking the best measures to counteract. Eus-not bad, I think, altogether satisfacto. I will plain everything that is necessary to beexplained members of the committes. Brione public werke which hare already American,

His ExerLLYxer asked the Hon. J. Ell- ady the French firms were present. The same sian intrigues in Mongolia is open to ques-amend that, and with your permission ask you to and it is therefore not researy toge falle isto appoint acommission to inquire into this import them. It gives the public generally an oppor been approved of; but as the revenue authority adds that from one-f

one-fourth to aƒtion.

aat matter, because by appointing a commission tanity of kaowing how the moneys estimated for Irving if ho would consent to act on the Com- gradually increases the loan may also be it third of those presentabataired from voting.

youthereby traveanopportunity of having autvide are to be applied, and bow every item of iperesse mittee.

Hon. J. BELLIRVING said he would have creased, and none of the works, wo think, The areeches of the leading opponents alsoap: MONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL members of the public placeì upaa it, sad in reveu as and expenditure is sozounted for. need wait very many years.

ball-hearted. They

think it would be most desirable that this should

His EXCELEENCY-Yes ont. I propose, as I macb pleasure in doing so.

His EXCELLENCxThen I will appoint the by done.

promised, to just go through these item by itan, bardly all be carried on at the same time pear to have been rather

of a policy of progress in China they were in

The ACTING ATTGEKET GENERAL-With as to give any hon: member who obooses an committee.. A meeting of the Hongkang Legislatiys Coan-" somewhat anomalous position when opposoil was held on the lat inst. There wereprosentraspect to the matter which has just bear brought opportunity of offering any observation upon

of China tof ing the desire

form. National His Excellenes the AGTING GOVERNOR, Hon. forward by my hon. friend, the Government has the

no-objection whatever to appoint a sormission Post Office. Of course they had their rea-W. E. MARSH, M.G

to examine into this important subject, and will sons for this opposition; it was not a mere

do so immediately. that bo no crimping or tinkering, but that ample unreasoning spirit of obstruction tands will be provided to make the worke reshly adequate to the wants of the prompted them. But they did not make out

They

could

even if the funde woro forthcoming,

∙and it is for the Council therefore

make selection of these which it thinke Bbould be proceeded with immediately. Whichever these may be we trust there

scam.to

o to haze felt that, as advocates in general

the good

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fatore. With the question of a new gaol for which the

will deal in s futura article, but in the mused witing, es convened. "The!

of the Foreign Post

and Against

time we may remark that we look upon that Offices

Offices was duly protostel

Hon. SIB GEORGE PHILLIPPO, Chief Justle. Hon. F. STEWART, Acting Colonial Secretary. Hon. E.J. ACKROYD, Acting Attorney Genial Hon. A. LISTEX, Caloud Treasurer. Hon. J. M. PRICE, Surreyor-General. Hen. H. G. TuoNSETT, Harbour Master. Hon. P. REIN.

Hon. F. D. SABROON.

Una, WonG SHINO: Hou A. F. ACEWEN. Ken. J. BELL-IRVING.

MINUTES.

PAPERS.

will evasent to sit on that commission

His EXCELLENCY-My hon. friend, I hope, Hon. A. P. MACHWEN-I shall have much plessure.

The CUFF JUSTIC There seems to be some misapprehension that the public generally are not sware of the reasons giren for these votes.

THE DREDGKE.

THE AFFOREBIAMON VOTE.

The COLOFIAL TREASURER-The Crows Agents, as far as I know, do allow all the dis- counts that are granted. I son bills coming out with discounts of 15 or 2 per cous from trafos- men faithfully deducted by the Crown Agents Whether thers is any farther desuat I'don't know. As to my hon. friend's idea of dispens ing with the Crown Agents, it is mit of the question, because we simply would not, ba allowed to do it. The Crown Agents were invented by the Colonial Ofer for the exprass purposes of preventing the importun The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL, referring ing to which a Governor coming out would toareaction of $2,000 is the-sata for tree plant otherwise be subjected. Any one who had ing, said-The general opinim of the Finance rails or locomotives to dispons of would-be-at- Committer was that they would like to see the him, and his life would not be worth hav- fall amount granted if possible for tree planting ing, and very disagreeable questions might Hon. A. P. MacEwBS-Under the head of and no reduction made in this vote. It seemed arise as to the Governor's choice of this person Surveyor-Genoral's Departarent there are due to be the opinion of the committee this rote had or that to supply certain artioles. I am glad that or two matters se to which I should like to wake best diminished by $2,000 in order to provide for in this colony we have no such patronage to dle- THE REGULATION OF NEWSPAPERS, &0. low remarky. One is the mausing of the other worke--foraerica, rakeries, and so on. The pose of. It would raise all manner of questions. Hoa. P. RYEE-Year Excellency and hon, dredger. I find that by page 16 of the estimates Committes were of opinion tree planting was at such as exist in certain local institutions at pre- as a work which should be deferred as long resolution that the Local Fost Offies should

members the Council, as to the question the sum of 81.200 is put down for en ongleer. itaportant matter and if possible they would like sont, and I can only express my gratification I

to see the full amount voted.

have nothing to-do with giring any contracts for as possible, because whereas future genera remain under the control of the Municipal

which I have to put to-day, I beg to be allowed $12 for an assistant engineer, $103 for a fire-

I must. His EXVELLENCY-Would they prefer to the valuable stores required. We have got a ticne will certainly want clean and whole

to offer a few romarks in profare of it. This man, and $84 for an assistant Hireman.

little impatient with the Crasu Agents at some markets wherein to purchase their food Conseil was also carried; but the spators kad to admit that the existence of sever

Council will remember that in February last say ayself that I do not so then is any cosasion strike out some of the other items P

The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL-No; they times, but I most say, although I was almost supplies, spacious parks wherein to take

a different Post Offices in the Settlomenta.is

The minutes of the last meeting were roadt Bill was introdnood for the regulation to employ a European engineer or the large oxercise and recreation, colleges wherein

elected Ho

the in- continge

and confirmed.

of nowhispers, &c, hat I think it resolved iteulfalary of $1,200 s year for the dredger. Ithinks thought if these were necessary they would leave talked into a disbelief in them by gentleman inconvasient, get thait children may receive a fitting educatic, convenience because, they say, no guarantees

I have some bankto my faill in them. They have into the Printers and Publishers Ordinance. To hinaran world do the work quite as well, sed than in and draw the attention of the Governin this Council who was very rabid against them. and so on, it is possible that they may adopt has been offered by the Customs Au-

His EXCELLENT-I am afraid I cannot read as well especially in this matter of the The ACTING COLONIA SECRETARY laid this Ortiange the propriotara of the English at a very much less amount. Then at page 31 mart to the question of tree planting.

journals in this odony took great objection, far. under the bond of dredging foreshores, there is reasonable matbed of dealing some more

been a great relief to us, but has saved us a with their criminals than that of confining thorities for the elhsient working of the upon the table a minute from II. E. the Off-ularly to some of the pluses; and boy orasidan amount of $15,000. That matter was also dis sanction any increase boosues we have only a lesu. Their temporary assistance has not only

Post the Government with res

The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL-The great deal of money.

Hon. P. KYRIE-I canust agree with my hon. thex is a sumptuously appointed and espa-thorities buvo distinctly stated that port to the dependiture of ramen sus ered that it pleced them in a haruilinting position used in the Finnues Committes, and my hon margin of a few thousand dollar

to conform with the regulations contained in friend the Surveyor-General explained that this cious hotel. It is

is said the pressat gaol.

these clauses. Mr. Jackson and myself took was wonds up by the employment of targo boats. Committes thought I might be considered.

His EXCELLENCY-It may be considered dur frisad who has just spukea. I believe we have got more expensive articles than it was necessary overcrowded, but we have an hesitation iu they do not preposs to abolish the oral for the repair of the Health Cloer's staans

Post

have, and that we could have got the articles Haying that if it were let

at the meeting when the Bill was sammitted. work it will fill four or fire of these cargo housing the course of this year. were let out to respectablence until a proper schame ber been launsh Blanche, and -the hire of another lapach the matter up; and made various reworks I am informed that when the dredger is in full

out that the Health Olcar had represented

At that meeting a day. Those boats cost $8 each per day, and

THE WONGNEICHONG PARK.

better locally. The Commissariat and the Nary hard working Chiness in tanesents a much completed for working the Chinese Govern while that was under repair. The minute set ment Fost Ofice. The argament, adduced

a rather lengthy discussion took place on the that involves a cost per annan of $12,000

Hon. A. P. MAKWEN, on the vota for Works have gore on that eystom ever since we have bad- The would find accommodation 1 by Mr. KINGsmile that the secrecy of the the repairs as being urgently necessary. The 19 the th February last. larger

Acting Colonial Secretary aid it would bo na-

& Naval Yard or a Commissariat Office bere, ami Bill, and as far as my epllection carries me, it simply for cargo bost hire. I think if it than do at present. Itssens, however, to be! Chinese #overnment Telegraphs is a farce necessary to refer this matter to the Fisse was finally, at 4 mggeson from the Attorney the Government. oka tmild or purchase for and Ruildinga, szid-I so on page 31 there is sesumed that the criminal ought to be batter

o star would be & most telling sud olinching one Couraition, ne the money had been siready spent way, and the this Bill should be allowed this purgess, three or four barges, and exsum of 35,000 put down for a public park is 1 never heard of anything like nepotista oz any and better clothed, tbau fed, better

a Chinese Port Office were it not that and the reason gisan. It was represented

to proceed and that stops should be taken to in- ploy some of the unmerous team launches Wengneisheng Valley. I think I anderstood thing of that kiud. The tenderance open to the the honest working man.

Still, if it i

be de. /Against a we would he managed by foreigners, by the Health Offer that if the money troduce the Press Law now existing in England which eat their heads off in the harbour during from my hon. friend the Surveyor-General in whole world, and I cannot see how it could pos The Acrire ATTORNEY-GENERAL-I think just as the Imperial Maritime Customs are, were not speat at once for the repairs it. advocate even with respect to it the applica

the Telegraphs are under the control would be necessary to spend a mash larger into this colon (in this statement of the At & groot part of the year a great reduction may Finauge Committes that thongh this sum is sibly ooor.

And if amount in a few days. His Excelleasy there orney-General Mr. Jauksen and myself with be vade in this expenditure, I therefors object proposed there is very little chance of the money

feeling confident that it was tho intention of the pean engineer, and $12,000 for dredging the reasonably, he orasidered it was not desirabla to obeaper in. England thon here. We can get proceed with this work by ploomeal. What I them almost direct from the manufacturer, where. if got here there would be extra costs of com. Attorney-General, at a future date, not the foreshore

The XRVEYOR.GENERAL-I think, so far, understood him to sy was The estimate of foreigners it must continue to be ed that the expenditure ba approved

very far future, to bring in this Press Bill, Wei were perfecte antisfied with that, and with-we have only come to the fest item to which my $25,000, and if you will give me the $25,000 I will missions for the persons who would supply them Take the large sam we are diaburs. I am sure we have got we could s pledge to this effect. The prompt despatch

The ACTING COLONIAL BROBETARY next laid drew car rasointion. I bare beard, whether hon. friend has reforced-the $1,200 for a Bare-undertake to give poz the fears in a year. This hore

I very uol ubilged to my hon. friend for hir stig-years, and I was at a meeting in the City Hall the cement cheaper t and delivery of their correspondence is of before the Council the report of the Finance will has hit the worly to my question pean engineer. I osa only say briefly that I am master has been on the tapis for two or three ing for coment

The only reason hon frised of a beautiful park all ready drawo been omsidored in other solonies and the verdict vital importance to foreigners, and there Committas apex the Supplementary Estimates will be that no pledge was given whatever.

I be no certainty of promptitude if the for 1885, which was to the effect that the Estimade the newly opening any porn who gestions and I am etelainly datirace of taking three years age when plans were shown by my got it locally. The question has often

atos had been fally considered, and also re-reads newspaper peper) which I consideration the charge in the discussion ou bie

oil meetinge any person who reads this will feel in addition to looking after the boiler and we could get this very desirable work put in performed by the Crown Agents. They are in claims to the vacant sest on the Legislative while little confidence.could be felt that, on 1887, which was as fellow

and in a better position to obtain the articles His EXCELLENCr-I am afraid I cannot hold than we are here. Connoil, and were aware that it was want of lei-occasions, the letters might not he tan- The Conureible carefully considered the Estimate that if there was not e pledge given it was some the engines be has the supervision of the whole hand, and I hope the Government will prese it direct communication with the manufacturers

thing very near it, and I can only state my own dredging operations, and if we left it to forward. auro that prevented him from doing so earlier.pered with So long, however, as the sor: for 1887 laid before then by His relay the opinion on the matter I eat answer for My Chimaman it would not porbare, be so well

cer Administering the Government. Mr. FRANCIS intends bis letter pablished

vice is under the control and management The Committee suggest to the tovarniment the ad. Jackson, and I think I can sine answer for my done. But I explained the last time the water out any hopes of incressing this vots for next Hon. A. P. McEwEx-I would only makeone yesterday's issue to be at once an answer to of the Imperial Maritime Customs Départ-viasbility of impressing the fee for Jinrichshe Licenses friend, Mr. Sassoon, that we left the Conall came up before the Finance Committee that your. It may be taken into consideration in remark. My hon. friend the Surreyor General

while

of patives.

Don of the principles abova ennnciated, aod and fee is, lo command the capo took upon himself the responsibility of on drew a proposition which we wished to make, to the voting of this' aum of $1,200 for a Euro- being expended next year. Ho said, and very the articles we mostly require can be procured

have it made large enough to meet the de-finess Post

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can.

by foreignore. Perhaps the Chinese

dering the money to be spent at rare.

The COLONIAL TEKANGREE Bunded. Carried.

Не доу-

mandi, on the basis of our present treat Edent would not object to BP

of criminale, of an increased population.

THE VACANT SEAT ON THE

COUNCIL.

We never doubted that Mr. Francis would were controlled by Chinono officials, port of the Committee upon the Estimates for take generally as the report I read of the Coun- that I apply for European engineer is that out. It would be a great boon to this coloxy if has always been that the work was satisfactorily

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