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tion of nationality I would not be able to gentlemen are to set side the trusts of that subject interests, the main which Trepresent-have now roles it. waznuarfusualy dosidad by thoas ficat siseled and home of any interest at Inger to reduce these rates. Some time ro Xsistent efforts to render the natives dīvation pluse the vote of $1,000 in the stintos Ear died, the conditions of Sir Richard ManDonnell, at his Concoll, I feel bound, with your Ex present at the tiny that it was unimobits all very few Chinese came to it, and it was not suggested suo courou and that is, es trasfied with their position and consider thời, 1830. Some correspondonos took place. My hon the relation that was pissul by the present vellaney's permission, to make a tow remarks, to consider the well rticle of the basis of until Dr. Donnys and fall had devoted a grout with respect to spirits. It had in this colony, friend, the Chair of the Committne, knows Governor in Couail, unde sagcention of the It has ben sail time tile is after all only settlement. What was in oond artiolo ? deal of time and attention to the creation of that what they havo in the falls, a spirit form, we solves unjustly treated. To this and he is a civisina took place in A Conamailton. I believe Sesretary of State. Or me they can't do difference of bames, bonuse some hours aro 1 Tas soooud article was the article which proposed Museum, that it was made attractive sough to would have a large extonica of revenue which ready to thwart or annoy any other sec it is a matter of notoriety that two leading mor 20. Howevne powerful stasa ganėlenon may altowed for Chinese to visit the Museum and I to, consider these regalations on the ground of the Chinese to induce them to come la numbora. would enable mie at once considerably to ro:ition of the community, coutent to wit the bers of the Chumittee were not is enure nocaribe, they are not strong rough to do that. The others for those who ars not Clanese, hat I think good faith. Therefore, it appars the Cocaistas In order to reob the Chinore views in every way duce the house tax and la that way with my hon. friend, and Mr. Rysy and Bir. spicit of the Queen's lastrustinus will be carried it of grant importanus as it involves a great acualdered this question, leaving cut the cou wo conscited the Chinese Wo had them at lay the charge on those who choose to spend praise of the Chinose alone. It is a notorious their money in fatorienting deloks. I may fact that, before the arrival of Sir. foun Sagason took a motorhut different view to that out. The conditions imposed by Sir Richard prinsiple whick ought to be riplicate. I karo aldaration whether they arro keeping good meetings, we did our utmost to induce them to

Well, tako nu interest, to subsoxibe, to write to their motion one rosent onse in which a company takus by my bon, friend, and, I think, thran MacDonnell in respect of this ground will be falset seen the rak ation, or have I won the Zaith with those whondranced the fanda other members. I think it well for the whole of fled, and the law will he strictly enforced notion that was pat up after the departmes of Sis the public, if they are to take the materials friends in the country to supply actiales of inproposed to cand act in this Colony the ces Neser in this Colony, the British and the commonly to understatul exactly who are with repent to the payment of any mousy, Richard Maa Dannalle except that have hard furnished by This conmont would be in much torest. We also wrote bome: There was a of distilling spirits We hava gant fes of $2,000 foreign rosidants lived on the bost of terms the gentlemen who have hon moving in this if au money again has to be paid to the it rund by your Exellaney-but I find thern was the same position at the Committee were pamphlet published and sent to manufacturers on that distillation of spirits, I need not tell with the Chinese, and the good valations that mattor And wint they are done. Mr. Rye Trustee Galaman. Tobservo It was said also a great diference between those ten motions, when they were called upon to deal with this and others to sex if we could get donations for you, it pon take the quantity of spirits which Was the sole rates, and when the discussion at a place where I was not present, at a meet-In one there was no distintion of race; the guastion, the question of principle and before the Museum, and of the Chiness the principal this important, and flourishing congern will have so long existed between them are not, teak place in the Excentive Conuril-I now stateing the City Hall, that there was some cum sol Library were open at all hard, that the question of expedieasy, when no sab man then in the Colony warn levited to meet the distal, this is nothing compared with what it we trust, likely to be disturbed even now by the fact, but I believe it was well known before-agreement como to by the ovarnar with while in the other there was a distinction and stantini materials on which to found a judgment Committee, and did meet this Comites with would pay in Mauritius, Caylon, or England. His Excelloneye injudicious actions or tivated tho Athg Atterrey-Caberal suid Mr. Ryrie was card to the new unlea, and that from that also in the notias made the other day after fall are before them unless they like to take the view to fraze roles which would meet the view This is on a very small scale. I am only doing.

As a sob opinion of Bishop Bardon. But the question of of the Chinese sed at the same time preserve what I have power to do in Canal. Of course, remarks. The passage gaoted by the the phly gentlapan there who had anything to do agreement the-Governor lind deviated.don't consideration by the Committen, with the legal estate. He is the only gonthewou know that it was said very distinctly, unt soriber to the City Hall I received agony of the good faith, the question that arises out of the order and regularity. As to any class or race it I have to deal with a spirit farm generally Governor from the Rayal instructions does responsible to the Governanout, and my attention whether said distinolly or not, it was a mis epnet and correspondo In that pamphlet. minutes of the Gaveroor and the correspondence, distination being latonded, it was the most dis and the consumption of spirits in the colony, wo not really apply in this case; it is in- was called to the fact that Sir Ricbari MaeDon- take. When in October, 1879, thle question tion is the notice priated, I have not brought is not importet and, as His Excelluting has taut possible thought to anyone who took a must pass on Ordinance similar to what they

Lended to apply to those places where there all not only laid down der proper conditions. arose, my attention was called to the matter, it with me, hene I did not think the question pointed out. tias fall merita of this question intorcat in the Museum and spent money and a Love at Singapore,

Hon. W. Keswrog-As your Excellency has is mixed population all of whom are which have been violated, has that he also gave and a letter was written to the City Hall wanid come up today at tats Couueil, but as far from the threefold low-good faith as well great deal of time in making the veinm neoful instructions us to when the toy should be paid Committoo When they refused to scale to As I remember, the forsaoon is for the Chinese ne axpediency and principle-will now be be to the community and I regret oxceedingly that alluded to the fee of $2,000-I would not have al to. Iero ngain I had an oil popor. I enn the wint of the Gevorner of the Colony, and the oflermon for those of other nationalities the Colang. Now, with gard to this que your Excellaoy line introduced taas feeling late luded to it if your Excellency had not done so Her Majesty's subjects. Now, the Colony assure my hon fricat it is not a private paper-eived a letter. It is not maakcod privato, And then at the end of the notise-if I am wrong then of expediency and principle it appears to the motion. It is not fair to do so, and it lessena I should mention that the produse of that distil- of Hongkong was acquired by force, wrested, it is in every renzo a public paper.

and I will quote passage froos it. It is from of cours I am subject to correction there is that practically my hon. friend who has the sains of the stitntion. The numbers of lory will almost wholly, ass matter of necessity, in fack, from China, undor justifiable cir Hon. W. KESWICK Was tint sent with the mumber of this Conngil, His Homear the southing to this effect, that all well board spoken on this tonight have bad for de fer regulation store reald be diffoulty in Chinese love its colony, and I doubt very muller constantes, for the purposes of British athure P

Chief Justice. He says:-"Could you not let and decently dried persoas could visit the ground the committee might defenregalatku would is right to bux it to the extent your Broodlener HEXONLLENCr-It was sent with the the vote for the ye be passed conditionally meata at any time on appliantion to the Soare-ding these rules as a raster of expediency, bo nad Europeans being accommodatod together. has done. It in aqual to nearly zovon per trade and for the benefit of Britial” mer- others. It was read at the agentitur of the Cou that the rules most your approval, and thus give tary or the person is shares. That being so cause I think it stands that these rules go for My hon. friend on the loft (r. Ng Choy) siluded cert on the cost of the concern. $18,000 chants and manufacturers. The Chines mittee. A communication was mad as to the time for arrangement Thot lotter of Sir John what fa the use of devoting perisia bours of Tery little. But whether he has abandoned it or to the roade and Public Gardens and other pixes. waa paid for it and I question whether with City Hall expenses, and Sir Richard MacDon. Srista's was written to me on 27th October, 1979. the day to those who are Chices and other not, I look thragh this document, and it is a Weknow that in those places there is abundance such a foo can be worked profitably. In living here have been allowed numerous Te that I af onou ugrend, anniely, that the vets, To those who are at Chinese? If any parton scions matter to put such a thing before a colony of room, but it is hardly so in the Musou. At is an aperiunt, and must be judged of by privileges, and rightly so, but forming, as which bud brien struck out of tho estimates for ust go and visit the Mason at Buy thug of the in which the Governor is put forward as one who one time it was so fall we had to fatos in the ver results yet to be ascertained, but I think, as a 1830 should be pet back again under the coalition lay intover be bis nationality, what is the use doos not keep his word and breaks faith with those andish and are now the place is very small, but matter of policy, it is not wise to tax so heavily they do, the bulk of the population, and that the Committee proofed to revise their notice of making that distinction? That shows the with whom henkes arrangements, but ifit is put it is iinistake to suppose there was any feeling an undertaking which would employ labour in being mostly subjects of the Emperor of as requested by Mr. Romia.

and that the rules were tomat my approval. Well, spirit of those persons who framed the notion forward good faith should be kept up. Now when of race animating the Committes. It was purely producing that which would not be conenmed China, it bas always been deened asconakry 1. G. MantioNNEL.. ths Coramitoo mot. The gentismen who were ear, her from the Governor. But then look no this document I find it stated Bicliopa matter of order, to make the inatiating asssfullers to the detriment of the colony in say way and advisable to take certain precautions fo 11th May, 1959.

unt British subjects managed to again, by a7 say there is the principlo, yen adopt the prin. Bordon, who know the oustoms of the people, i ne possible to all. No other fooling than the bet would go out of the colony.

His EresLUENCY I can only say from the prevent them from gaining the ascendency. Therefore I was not only acting on the advice majority of anazalude a number of British ciple, that Chinese are to be distingailist from pint forward as in support of these remarks, and, I public good could have prompted the Committee, of my legal advisor us to paying the money to subjects from the Museum. I intimated at params of other nationalities hase had the apprehend, not on the question of principle but on and by casting aspersions on the members of papers considered, and most carefully considered, the tastes, but I was acting in acordance with once that the rules did not meet my approvat privilege of going abroad, and of visillog may the question of expeliency or at all grants, as the Committas His Excellenes wanld fail to by myself and advisers, tisas so Boorishing will They have, however, never been oppressed the only precelent pai before me showing any neverthelosy kont the vote on the estimates for bli fastitutions in Englund and some otho mnoh the latteria the former.. Ithank the Colony vindicate the unworthy policy he had pursued he the thing that they will not feel the $3.000, or put upon in any way, and a most liberal and perhaps next year it may be aggassary to spirit bas invariably been displayed towards minuto of the Governor with gaspaot to the per-1880, and directions were given to the Colonial conntries, but I have dover sou a notice of such would be interstal to know what materials. towards the City Walla

His ExCNLTUNGE-T think it very likely, gou reconsider the question and perhaps add a nanght them both, by the Administration and by the nou to whom this money was to be pail. As I Treasurer a gay the money in accordance with a charactor az this, daveting vartain parts of the what sermisas, what facts there were before the

uutioned, two of the members of the Commit Sir Richard MacDonnel's minutes and in a day to people of a nartaiu nationality and other Committee which induced them to come to the lamen, after whit has passed to-day, the vote to it inogh,

THE FIRE TANKS AND WATER SUPPLY,

residents. No respectable Chinese is, as Mr. too, my hon. friand hore on my right (Mr. Byrisi ocrdance with the formal of my law riser parts of the day to guide of ther natioakties, decision that it was desirable to have such a znia will be given for the Masum, because I have

Jos. P. Besi-When will we have a chance RYBIE toslified at the Council meeting, turnså sud Mr. Sassand, were dispased to think it would Therefore I did my duty. The question, now Why should it be teossary? I am at a less to as this to proventa confict between the lower very little doubt the weighty remarks that fell

When those from the tractes, my hon. friend Mr. Byria, of sceing the fire tanke? I am not a great od- be better to abolish this luxilious notice arises whether we are to continue paying the rate furlar tand. But that principle is to be car strata of Chinese and Europears. sbeat untionalities, but there were three other payers money to the gentlemen, wh bags ried out, why: you might as well carry it out in grounds bring them into collision with the Go when he said, "They now have the one poller vacate of the water supply for Chinese, still away from the Museum, and we are per none of them had ever gentlemen, I understand, who supported my hou no luga) position whatever as for us the City other instances. There are the Public Gardons, vornor, and, Tappchend all right-minded people. For Tibrary and Mussam, nately, that they would like to see a good supply, but what I would suaded that friend Mr. Kuswiel) They attends the public Hal is concerned who are violating every Why as put up a similar nution bare Os, to and, certainty the clearly enanoisted spicics of should be on and without payment to all like to see soonest, and what I consider the most thought of complaining until the gentleman

acting at least some of then-and therefore engagement they have made to the Government, carry it even farther, if that principle is to pre- the Sanistary of State, they are bound, I don't say decent and well behaved persons of orary ustion pressing want of all, in a supply for oztinguish- I Laro no hesitation in mentioning their names. That above all who are endeavouring at this line. vuil, why ant apply it to the pabliu roads? You bourding to law, habar men of common sense apality, will be the opinion of reasonable men in ag fires. I was in hopas (right see a vote on who is so much infatuated with Spanish rule. They as Mr. Hepsins, Mr. Forbes, sad. Mr. in the nineteenth century, to retain in Hoogkoug might just as well ay, Chinese are to be allowed pealing to men of common sense when a question this community, for what the Secretary of State the Estimates for that purpose, and not seeing it in the Philippines saw it to draw the Go- 16zitanja I batieva at the meating at widen the that little rouinant of intoleranco in the in Qrstu's read in the forensen and Europeans arises, thor ses bound to put forward some sub- says in lúa disputol, of which muy hon. friend on there is what prompts me to sak this question.VERNOR's attention to the rules of admission

His EXOBLLONGY-I hope the Survayor the division to place sad the proposal to come shape of their aide. There is no other motion in the afternoon, or set apart one side of the road stantial materials which warrant them in the left (Mr. Koawick) is as much afraid, is very bu terms with the Government was rejected by in this Colony in which a distinction is made for Chiasse and the other side for Eropeans. quming to the conclusion it is expedient, trae. Bir Micbus Hiska-Baach indeed says General will very soon be able to prepaga a raThe Chinese are cordially welcomed to the "I am not aware any such collisions have ever visat scheme. I sent to the Socretary of State Mussom, but it is obvious to them, as rdjority of one, my hos. friond was in the between Chinese and Europesos except that no- But what I object to most strongly is this, the and which rendered it nasessary to insist on elsir, Masses. Hoppins, Forbes, and Rattanjes toe in the City Hall Museum; and, forsooth, principio of distinguishing one nationality from it in spite of something which was put to actually coarrol" Well, it is reduced, so far, the plans and ostiumtes of the fire tanks to be roting against Mesara, Lyrio and Sasson. Now is to be kept up there, and the public money to be another. Is that right? I ask every man of them as in the watara of good faith, not to a single point. But at the saure time spected on the hill side. Cortsin technical ob woll ac to any sensible European, that their my hon, friend Mr. Ng Chor was right in saying fections were taken in London and those were uambers are so great that, unless a stated. a good deal has been said about the City 1x pic to genclerion who, by a narrow wajority, st, come sense and right principle to answer me withstanding that it is represented to them it Committee and the sution of the Government votain that foolish and intolerut notico. I need this question, is it right to make such a diating. brings them into sunflot with this principle that that though small it is a point of great importance. ruferred to the Surveyor-General. At the same hour for Europeans. be fixed, the latter I think I had better read for the information not say it cannot be done. I am not surprised tien as this The reason given for making this all Her Majesty's anbfoots should be treated on It is the best lith compass, as I pointed out of time he was invited to consider the question would be unable to take ladies with of the Coanall, a passage from Her Majesty's that my son. friend, when he made his interest dintimatiou is, as I read it from the corresan egos Fanting, and that it brings them clearly distinction of nationality. And when the hon.in connection with the low level water some, instrutious, which Her Majesty was graciouslying atatement as to what was emitted in the pandenze, the danger of a collision between the into conflict with the very modest proposal medo member who bas jest sat down spoke of this that le, the $140,000 scheme, and his attention them, na the lower classes of the natives have pleased to address to me, sad which, as the estimates for 1831 did puit all reference to this lower classes of Chinese and the lower classes of by the Secretary of State, a proposal which says thing ne the first thing dogs to create antagonism was also draws to the fact that Lope the an offensive though perhaps not altogether Cosocil will at once sus, governs in spirit exary subject. I have now given all the facts of the other nation. That is the only opprehension. if it be proved expedient. let it go, but give between Enrepeats and Chinose in this Colony cost would be someweat more zaoderate. The unnatural habit of staring at them; and we transaction of the kine. In the Queen's instruc e. The papers from which I quoted are apon But is it founded ou fact, is it a good reason' it a trial for six months. Well, it must have I think his memory was at fault. I shall Surveyor-General pointed out that the tious I am told, with respect to the work of this the table. My hon. friend had an opportunity Tet as Reo: There are many public places in been a strong noosity, which weare entitled to only refer to my own experience. What was sulting engineer in England was somewhat feel suro that the Chiness would, of their own Coquel, that is the legislation of the Colony-long since of perusing them. He knew the case Hongkong where the lower classes of Chinese ask some eridenos of which would bring the done by the hon. gentleman, and by Mfr. Forbes in error as to the construction of the tanks, motion, neverbase dreamed of raising the point

You creant to nasentinone ame to any Dil whareby thoroughly. For the first time, now, the sasantial congregato as well as the lower classes of other Commiltos into conflict with all these considera and Mr. Ruttuajes, in this matter with re-and I think the Surveyor-General established perporis not of Enroes birth orbescontar sul facts for the right understanding of, this case nationalitioe. Have you seen a row, bave you ticus and lead them to refast as they have dune spent to the Chinese Her Majesty the his view of the matter; it was some question now insisted upon by the Governor in their Fucted or made liable to any disabiliting or restrictions Lave been laid before the pablia,

ssen a collision there? Where is it? Give me positively to reopen the question at all as ang noen reacived an address from the Chinaso as to the granite and the sharantor of the rocks. anime. Whilo eo energetically couderaning the to which persons of European birth or demant are Hon. W KSWTORYour Excellency, I am an instashop. Then the tablic roads, there we gosted by the Secretary of State. It is patant shopkeepers of Hongkong Ta that address the Bat upon this question of dealing with the action of the City Hall Committee in fixing a not also subjected or mide kable:

not prepared, not baking expected this attack,seu peuple of various nationslitine walking overy under these circumstance they have put them oondret of tho ho, gentleman, of Mr. Foches: two muttere together. I hope soon to have a Her Majesty declares that I am rendered insp-nor would I thin's it desirable, to occupy theJay WEero in the collision I say that selves in ana raspsat in the wrong. Upon that and of Mr. Rattan joe was referred to, and in that report from the Sarveyor-General. From the separate hour of adinission for the Chinese,und able of giving my sent to any such bill. The time of the Council, to go through detail all apprehension is without the least foundation jetter some more respectfal uitsution than they addrosa I find the Chinese community approseb last minute I he was of opinion they coul Royal commission and Royal instructions give that you have said, bat as you hare degiared schufscever. Then, again, better conson I and say to Enve bestowed upon it would have been ing the stage of the Throno complain of the not be dealt with fagather, hat as Har Majesty's hesitatingly imputing to them unworthy the Governor of a Crown Colony incense power that t at reput does not contain all the facts,Tam not sure it is given in the correspcudonge, becoming is any body of citizens. But ho that as nonduct of portnia foreigners. The hoa, gentle Governant were of upinion they should be motives for so doing, His Excellency quietly so do I, as emphatically as words can express but I think it is said by some persons, that with it may, I only wish to add my few hutoble aug. man was the leader of those by whom that com treated together I asked the Surveyor.Ge ignored the considerate action on the part it, declaro mr conviction that the statements regard to this distinction of raon, the Chinese gestions to those of my hon. friend Mr. Eyrie as plains was made to the Queen. The Chinese neral to roomsider the matter. Of coarea it of the Committes in setting apart a certain theadvantages of the Governor is precluded from you have made ses tot horne out by facts, that have not mads a complaint about it. Well, the to the coures that appcare to be clearly open to stated that while the Governor desired to treat appeared to mo, ma it did giving his assent to any such bill. Now the Royal those popere that are put on the table as ropre matter of fact is, I must confess, the Chinese, the committes with rozard to the position they Chinese and foreigners as one community, of State, that it would be well to try to desi period for the exclusive admission of Chi- lustrations aro the thief gnide of the conduct of outing what was the understanding lotsoon as too gooil-natured. They pat up with a good should take up. Unless they have some substantiul making to distinction whatever of nationality with these subjects together. The Surrerar nese wouien. An this concession could only Governor of a Colony, and in accordance with the Governor Sir Richard MooDonnell and tus deal without saying anything. First of all, with reason for insisting on these rules because ex-a certain public meeting was valled, for both General thought not, but when he reconsiders have boau based on a delicate deferance to spirit of that lauseof them I see that Sir Richardt trustees or those who got up the City Hall, dont regard to that City Hall institution, they did pediency requiresit, I should enggest on principls Chinase and foreigners, but the Chinoso were the matter be will easily ses he can yield wa MeDozzoll acted as a loyal Governor when her out the onustruction yen mit upon them, not know, and I think the greater part of the alone, and baring regard to the suggestion of the excluded, they were not allowed to take part in awn view and frame a scheme by which the two Chinese customs and prejudice, the motive insisted upon that condition, and gave effect and that the conditions have not been violated. Chinese nor do not know that the City Hall is Secretary of State, it would be clearly pen to them the discussion, and these Chinese subjects of can be dealt with together. The moment I ascribed to the Committee of fostoring a race in that conditium as imposed on the Committer There is no dissaction in the way of the cx a public-institutica in the proper sense of the to reopen the question and deal with the matter, the Green thought proper in making that receive that report I shall not loss a moment distinction cannot, will any consistency, be to the clause of the instructions I have rest elusion of Chinese from the. City Hall: they are wond. They did not know that the land was I only wish to alt, with regard to the opinions complaint to respectfully arge that it be laid in forwarding it.

Hon. P. Rya-The great danger is delay. Is it to be said Mr. Hoppius, and Mr. Foaless fren to visit the Museam within certain hours originally granted by the Government to the I have exprsed about this mattor, it does appear before the Queen. It was laid before the Queen. ant Mr. Ruttujen to fosch the Governor of as any other nationality. The English are ex-condition that a building was to be arests on it to mo that the principle that the Chiness should The muting in question was got up by the hon.

His EXCELLENCr-I quite agree with you. It would serve no good purpose to follow Luis Colony ou this all important question of ofuded during a certain time; and for ceangus and that it was to be a public institution. They be treated without distinction is one which it gentleman Mr. Kesrisk). He moved the first However, I shall do my best to push it on.

His Execllency through his lengthy attack relaticas between persons of European birth feard well defined, and the rules are sip did not know that the Government was annually would ill become this Government in ahauden resolation. It was a resolution charging the will take this opportunity to remind my hon. those not of European birth or descent in tisported by those whose opinion we have good giving a grant of $1,200 a year towards the exby associating itself, as it would by continning Governor of the colony with undue lantenoy friend we have now gab a much more efficient fire on the Committee, but there are one or two Gelung, that, indeed, these gentlemon are to apsotrasson to respect, and these rules are said to penditure of that institution. But then ne soon the grant, with the only hedy who continues this to whom? To the Chinese oriminal population engine than we had at the great fire of 1878. We other pointa calling for notice. In the first the conditions framed by a Governor and teach by in Bucordance with the requiremonta of the as they know this did they not complain? Look distinction.

The second resolution was moved by Mr. Forbes, had then no fire engins belonging to the Gorers - the present Governor bow he is to conduct the community, both Chinese and Europeans. As at the Chiness papers, they are fall of complainte The ACTING COLONIAL TREASURER-Your and what did that say? That there was no meet that could proceed up the hill to the higher place, it strikes us as being peculiarly ridi- Gerrament with respect to the Queen's subreger is fittestad of the property, it is a puro about it. although it was not in the English Broallenay, I entirely agree with the Attorney nosessity for any change in the law and polles levels, and I attribute to that fact the spread of sulcus for him or for any one claw to suppose, jeta? Perbaya Mr. Hoppins may any." What and simpla ortuary title-doo sto si granted pupur. I admit, because a good mazy of the General. He has spoken in a very clear and regulations of the Colouy, and that flogging as the woodagration to a great extent. Boon after the Committee, in publiabing the correspond- de. I earn about Quan Vlotoris's instructions? in similar ordinary cases. It contains no more Chinese do not understand English and are so andderata mauner indeed. I have taken a grout the only really deterrent panishzent. And Mr. there ontas ont a very fino fire ongino which had The conduct of the Governor may be in accordance conditions necessary for the spaning of the in a position to write a letter to the English deal of interest in the City Hall, and from tioin Rattuajes proposed the third resolution is been ordered some months previously. That is muce with the Governinont on the question with the instruction, but I am a Gerca" museum sad the censen which should be kept newspapers. But what I my is this, there has to time, ne say moane would allow, bavo, given a which be disapproved of what be called the Go now in the Colony. It works very well in that issue between them, would dream of re- «And perhaps another gottleman, Mr. Forbes, open han dues any book of ancigit Sauerit. been a complaint about this notice.

donation towards it, and naturally I take some vernor's proceedings in respet of the cut-o'nina-orant of fire on the higher levels it can be used producing pinutes and documents written may say,What do I care about this? And I would state with regard to Ebėse papup.

That was done in 1878. Whether the Hon. J. TIE-This last one or the previoits interest in this question between the Cozumitee tails.

Hon. P.Rytis-But you will want water for it. thick it well to vlade the Chinese. I am when the

statements of the Chinose were right or wrong— and the Government, but not having been,

Hie EXCELLENOY-Y. Asunciated Committee they were t bound by the spirit of Her Majesty's in before that summitles("H; hear," by the H. NO CHOY-Aboat making the disting sousion of the zond faste of the wettor I have been Hon. W. KESWICK-I dony them.

TREE PLANTING.. atraution. They are not the instructions of the Governot) that the Committee duly considered to. I can refer you to some papors making pretty much in the dark, like the generality of the President of the United States. Well, my hon. and attached to them auch weight they complaints about the distinction made between publis. Tho first doonment which served to friend was the Chaicuman of the City Hall Com thought the mizutas referred to by Your Ex-patincalicios. But I appeal to rury member of throw any light on the subject was the pemph- ittee. Fio cunnut eay that. But it is no cellency deserved. They gave the due weight the Committeo, if they were Chinese thongselves let, which, being a sabsoriber, was forwarded to moraly the question of the Governor. Ecting aud the result was an 'alteration in the rules euch would they like that distiustion to be made? It mo. I read it over and was asked my opinion i noen had received that address very graciously. dusod the amcant spout by the Surfegör-Crepem guiding him. No one can blame His Excel- in uocarlanes with the law, with the soulias no sensible practical man con for a TO. is sil very well to say that the institution. is afterwards by friends. I immediately inquired. Therefore, I say, it is not the first time that any in 1877-78-79, bet you find it spent by M. Ford leavy for appealing to the acto of his prede- dilions laid down by bis predecessor and the ment dontt is in accordance with the best open and from, but is it perfectly freu in the fave are these all the facts with regard to this case distinction has been attempten batween Bar under the bead of tree planting, and that sum wo spirit of the Royal instruations. That is not manns of making that tostitation useful. There if that restriction. World the hon. member outbal bave bean put before the Commites, and I poans and Chinees, or that class feelinga havo have now voted in St3,000, being the largest the only question. What alt a feralne na exulasion of the Chinoso in the sense of exelu.my right (Mr. Karrick), if he were a Chinese, was fold they wars all, mxi is fast at the meet been raised, and if this subject should awaken rots ever taken for its honest City Hall Committee would care to swall made to the Secretary of State? What abusion. There is regulation for asking the instituka that nuties to be put up? Although, as I ing it was stucted these wors all the documente say class fealing the hon. gentleman and Mesere when I put it on the estimates it would mest their annual report by including in it all the the suggestiop of the Secratary of State, and the tien vaeful. As to the Library, there is no in-have said before, this notice is not of nib in the Committee was in precession of. Bat, on the

with your hearty approval. Everything is being correspondones that has ever pasm between way it has been received by the City Hall Coacement for the Chinese to Bock to 1 as they portapos in itself, still there is the principle other hand, I was told there were others that

done by Mr. Ford and his staff to extend tree them and the Government on the manage- mittee. I don't believe that in the history of do to the Museum, and regulations were ances. anderlying and when you some to the prin might throw some light on the case. Therefore

planting, and no expenditure will add more to Hongkung any body of gentlemen, wluther they pary in the one of the latter, but those regulaciple it is a very important thing. I am sorry | reserved my opinion and trusted to hear the

beauty and sanitation of the Colony than ment of the institution. His Excellency's it- were subjects of the Qaren or not, whether they tious do not exclude anyone. I deny i tota thit I have said shything that may hurt the feel. matter disonssed in this Council and then come

the survices he is now engaged on. ware Germana, Amricans, or ritish subjects, charge that there has been any suppresstonings of any member of the commaity, but I to a conclusion. I must say, after bearing your

The Bill was committed and passed, and the uendo that there had been a suppressio veri on this point was therefors totally unwarranted, have taken the reponsibility that the present of facis; 43ue whatever bus takes place. The link, sitting bors as a member representing the Excellency and seaing the documents you have

Connell adjourned sine dic. committee bure assed in rejecting the suggestrat, a rogurds the City Hall is stated in Chinese comaatity, it la my duty to make these produced, I think there can be only ono opinion

The emphasis with which the Governor tion of the Beerolary of Stute. This isn questi correspondence, and your Excellancy's views are remarks, and. I would not be worthy of the seat in the minds of this Council, that you are per which could accommodate the whole of the people The Chief Justice, who was not prosent at the affiating the grant of public modes, mar÷y of the printed, as given by year Excellency, and very 1 coups if I did not speak out on what Icon. feat. right in the matter. I don't see how assembled, and it was necessary to adjourn into. Coil meeting in Friday, the 10th instant, made repeated allusions by name, to threat ratepayers of this Colony. Perhaps the most little connosit is made. It is for this concnsity sejen to be strong case and when I think proper any hody of mon nonld have met together sad the open air where perfect freedom of lisenssion, explains, is an olleis letter published in the members of the Committee was in deplorably illustrious man who pressiled me in the Gorern to judge between your Excollensy aud the City to do mn(Applaunu).·

pot any other interpretation on the documents, perfect fedom of voting, provailed, and the Gazette, that his absones was owing to a mie had taste, and betrayed an animus as little mont, Sir Hareules Robison, be it is why his Hall Committas, sud the community does. I oar The ATTCARY GENERAL-Your Exeloney. The conditions on which the grant was given way that that potition was obtained: 1 know apprehension. His Honour says, "I regra y creditable to his station as to bis heart. His *id-The Chinese pay 98 per cent of the taxes in concice of nothing more likely to stir up thin Colony. I am anating from a despatek laid fooling of strife betweea raves than the course

I will not presume to say much on this questiar, were most explicitly put forward. I was here at nothing more than this, that the stateraints absence, basuvas I wish that 7 ind expressed my pet I have been so for acquainted with the history the tips of the grant, and though not in a pasi contained in it that the Chinese were purposely, antorence to the views I bave advocated in Excellency was so far carried away by his before Parliament and laid upon the table of this your Excellency kas parated. Previously to of it, having had many of the papers wanocted tipi to tako much part in the ornation of the as I understand the reading of it, purposelycordance with the opinion of the Secretary of Connoit. They stu9por vest. of the popsalution aur Excalianoy's arrival no ach feeling existed. with it under my notice since I have been in the City Tali I recolleut perfectly what was doue kwarted in the expression of their view, is to Stato.... I desired to have expressed my con.tomper as to allow it to be seen that he had and they pay about the same proportion of the and I doubt now if these efforts to stir up suot Colony, that I think I may be able to say and or I consider your Excellerey and the Fecretary of my miul but tr

ecereace in the views expressed by Mr. Byris remembered and still felt enmity against all revenus., I know toyaell that they contributa a feeling will be sucessful "Hear bear," from two words on the question as it stands on these State have gone a great way in trying to com. HIB EXCELLENCY-Well, gentlewwa, the quos- and Mr. Ng Choy."

who took part in the memorable public considerably over 20 per cent. And you come to the Gorervoc).

papors and has been brought before us today. I propice, and that the proposal put forward by Uon is that we go into committee.

taceting at which the first-fruit of his there ratepayers, and say to theun "Give H. P. EYRIE-Your Excelleray, I slaid Pancet belu thinking that in the report presented the Secretary of State that they should try the Hon. P. BYLIE just wished to motion the $1,200," kuawing well that $1.100 of these doi-

adrainistration were so sternly condemned. lars are Chinese dollars, and yan say, Welke to say a word or two on this point. Who to the Anaal mooting of shareholders there an adulasion of Chinese is most reasonable, and the point that if the Chinese were restricted in their In 205 hours of attendance at the Mieuw they wonkl

Governors are of course only weak, fallible, will endeavour in some little way to get your your letter was ärst placed bofoed the committees or to feature which make it particninely objection against it is most absurd.

short-sighted mortals like the rest of us ou our noties bourd and wake a distinction of a will say my convictions have been all along icensbent upon a ineruber of the Executive whe opinion the lower alasses of Chinese are far betbe more crowded than if allowed the whole day.

Hon. J. M. PAGE--At this late boar mey I tionalities, though the Governor, who thathast Chinese shonic be frosty admitted, that there has an opportunity as I have here today, to take ter behaved that the lower class of Europeses

The debates at the mootinge of the Legisla- but they shot at least be careful not to grant was made, stipulated there abould be abould be no distiastian-I urged upon the Com

apart, or at all escuta not to sbrink from taking and if the Committee only varried out their venture to ask a personal question-on sanitation * part, in the discussion which has arisen, be regulations properly and admitted only properly and your Exellenoy's allegation use my view tire Council have frequently, during the allow private feeling to bias their actions or no such distinction Bat with respect to the nittag to get every statistic and doonment tha

CARS Bates are of great reight, and naues on-behaved persons to the Library and Museum on water carriage and fire tuka, whether your regime of His Excellency SirJons Porr favour their specetes. It is true that Mesara Jauretary of State, an appeal was made. I could be bad novorning the City Hall from its

The only Expelleavy would be good enough to print with Pus requested by my ho, friend to submit CommerOS Best, 3 before any disonesion Look titled to grant respect sie introduond and their there would be no fear of collision. the correspondence to Sir Michael Hicks Beach, place or any letter was written, to bare all these views are referred to, not very fally, but they time when the lower stases of Europeans, I on the other correspondenes s letter of mine ad- HENNESSY, buon lively, if not exactly profit-FoREsand HOPPIES are not British subjetta, I did so what was the real: 7 Sir Michael papers before them; and there was also another are referred to in a way which might almost rates sorry to say, are inuling to molest Chinese addressed to the Government in which I set forth. Winks Beach wreie a despatet, and he referred point-what the number of visitors was to the the suggestion that your Excelloney in insisting then they don't care whether they are the lower very fully my views qu that subject. So far sable, and that of the lith inst, was more than but they have very largestakes lo the Colony, to the objration made by the City Hall Cum Masenm for the first few years of its opening. apen this great question of principle-as your class or apper class when they are the works recullout, there was nothing in that which usually exhilarating. Mr.KESWICK seritioia and have been liberal supporters of its insti- mittes to the admission of Chines on a par with That has been dous, so far as I know. Ioar Leloucy has explained it, and as my hos. for liquor, and if the Committes only admitted pro- might not appear with the other papers, and I of the estimates elicited a long and interest-tutions during their long residencë shege. Europeans the objection that is, that Masaretly just detail my recollections of what took friends M. Ryrie and Mr. Ng Choy have pa porly dressed and decently behaved persons, thers foal I am not asking too much of your Ex- Hoppius, Forbes, sud Kattunger made that place before the year 1968 and after 1860. Al itir standing alone or in Bonis so age separate1 would be no fear of a collision any mara than in sellency's impartiality and fairness in asking statement from the GorERNOR, which we The mere fact of these gentlemen haing fo to use their words, there was one likelihood recollections are distinctly to the affect that the firm the Exenutive and other persons of high the street, on the Parade Grand, or in the that the public should cou my views with the shall conrkler in detail on a future occasion. Tigners could not justify the Goverme The matter to which we now direct attention is connecting their names with sentiments of disturbances, arising between the lower class hour) that it was to enlarge the winda of th which bas arisen with regard to the admini. which cannot for a minute bo put forward. The

Musanna was principally for the China-Cheer. standing in the Colony. Now, the questi Public Gardens, I onasider it an idle objection other papers.

His EXCELLENTY-Certainly; thoes pun is the sudden onslaught made by His Excel of contempt and defiance of Her Majesty. of Chinese and the apswaring strata fines. Quiross on matters.(Hear, hear) As yesra passtration of the City Hall is, as your Excel City Hall now L consider to be ašen, more of no objection to that. D4848," Well, I must say I thought that vois

lency on the City Hall Committee. It was Even for the purpose of illustration, it was unlikely. Sir Michóni Hinks-Baack thengin it by ann gets old. but that is rug recollection leney bas pointed out, purely a question of a public institution than it was when it was

evident that Bir Jour was spoiling for the fray, a gross liberty, and one which the com rary valikely. If the Chinees go to the City Hall of what occurred, when the Library and Masoom good faith. I won't go so far sa to my it is axlarted, taking it as a whole, because at that tinok at a dried snake in the dusam, whe Wure speed. Thore also one statement in the question simply of precise coatcast, but it is time it was well know that the funds that were should they ba provented, when they can go to the Committee's letter which I took objection to a question, having regard to the dounavut un to be raised for its orcation would be contributed ask whether there is any possibility, bye and by, as he took pains to introduce the subject, and munity may be safely trusted to estimate" Gardura and look at a live anakze, or go to the Libut my objection was.not regarded. They say which the City Hall grant was originally made by a limited number of persons, and though af of a reduction of the police, water, and lighting very pointedly insinuated that the Hon. Wat its true value. The Chinese whom Sir

that those rooms shall rovert to their original and the minutes that have boun quoted-whether course it would be thrown open to the public, rate. I am an advocate of light taxation, and brary and call for a book with pictures of snake uses, as part of the entertaining rooms of the they" setublista precise contract or no I think the publis would be in a certain way aerred by have for years been of opinion that if we coala KESWICK bad purposely overlooked the ab- JOHN HENNEASY can claim as British suh. Where is the distinction? The Library is openi hailding. to them, the Public Gardens are gær to them which exist they will find they wore aeror question of good faith, Ent whatever may be the subscribe; some in vary. Iorgé ergunte-and-Shanghai it would be a benefit to the polony,

If they refer to the documents the Cound will agree with me they do raise a thore for tenovelent gentlemen who wees going reinoe this rate to something like what it is in sence from the Estimates of the usual votojects are numerically inconsiderable, and of $1,200 for the Librarian and Curator. few have any large interest in the place. but, forsooth, Messrs. Forbes. Hoppins, cal Ruttunjes are to prevent the Chinese subject intoaden, for outertaling rooms. As fewer legal interpretation to be put upon the egotia I sure the cousity is very much indebted of the Quen from having free access to the the trustees am emoerned. I myself are most ties between the Government and the Torpant them but tince then a great mataber of one year a great reduction I then reverted to The attack had oridently been carefully pre-Moreover, the fact should not be lost sight. City Hall Musom. Gue would have thought ad I still hope that your excellency may be in the time the grant was malo, there was an under theatre and other pious not heing so well let as reduce taxation if possible, and I should be very primed himself for the orossion. Had aintained by the small British and foreign auxions that this grant should not be withdrawasihla porsens acting on behalf of the City Hall us them have gone away, and in opzeegneses of the the old figere, but it showed my disposition to parad, and His Excellency had obviously of that the City Hall was built and is. when the dasjatch, came from Sir Michae Hicks Beach, in which he expressed grave duced in a supplementary estimate to place that standing at lanet tact the principle of having the war expected, the Committee have found some happy to consider o rodnation provided we get doubt of these coilisions securring, and says he sum before the Finnes Loomittee for 18. City Hall Fese, open, and without distinction to difficulty in making both enda moet, and the some other course of rovesné. As you are aware, the subject been incidentally introduce community. Granted that the Government bas pover board of such collisions oeucring.

think the difference now between Your Excellenay all Her Majesty's subjects to this celiny, was consequense is they have bad to send the hat I have had to strengthen the police fores, got or had the GoVERNCE Confined himself to gave the site very valuable one-could- On the Commitles would have acted on bis usd thoumaities is very small indeed. It is only accepted. I say the questiez is ono parely ef round to the corrunity generally, and some of steam launches, and make other improvements in a mere explanation of the dispute, little they, we would ask, do less? Character-

ggesting that for six months the enties from for as I can makeout, tho mention of the name good faith. Farther it is a qualian of principle the community put themselves down pe sub the police. All that required money. The Firs opening of the Museum should he tried, and thot of the Chingo. I have it on the word of my apart from good faith, a question it may be called suribers, and those are others who, like myself, Brigade, polies, and water rates, twelve par would have been thought of it, but uistically making the most out of this if collisions courred sans wodifications could hon. friend opposite (Mr. Keswick that no re- of policy, that of admitting Chine tubjects of give cooselenal donations. But since they has cont, I admit are very high. I should lite to fortunately for him he made a personal

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maintained.

some twelve years back, and which had

His EXCELLENCx-They made that statement Fa songestion with the vote for tree planting, really nothing to do with their view of tug to the foot of the Throne. The sewer of Her His EXCELLENCT said-I may remark that the matter, however important they might be Majesty was published, and the answer of the return of the free planting work to the hast of the to the present Governor in influencing and Secretary of State was that Hor Majesty the botanical department has so far apparently re

Forboe. Hoppins, and Ratten jos are responsible, Hon. W. KESWICK-Would I be in order f Bis EXCELLENCY-Certainly. Hou: W. KESWICK The statements made in the petition you havo alluded to deny most em- phationly. That mooting was one which bad rene distinction in it whatever as regards the fo- reigers. There was no room within the building

The Connoit then went into committee. Hon. P. BYNIE-Your Excellency, I would

THE HOUSE TAX.

His EXCELLENor-I have already made for

the

THE GOVERNOR AND THE CITY HALL COMMITTEE.

cessors in office, but is is hardly likely the

set down its value at $70,000. This estimate be considered. When that dvigateli same, what speatable person, whelger Chiness on otherwise, Her Majesty to equal rights in this part of Hoe adopted this plan of Bouding round the bat a great reduce them, but at the same time I am endeavour matter of it, and perpcitated a further blunder grant of a site for the Hall, the Governor was done with it? It way referred by the G. who applied for admission at that Museum at any Majesty's dominious with those of Hur Eare. ontbee of Chinese have subsoribol towards the ing to spend the money for the purpose for which vergor with the trust deed, with Sir Richa hour of the day when it is open, sursand except pean ankjects. Then there is a third question. Hail. Therefors,ovea if the building was origin it is voted. With regard to the lighting of the by connecting it with the events attending must have been based on the present on.

the site in fart, Donnell's minutile, and all the correspondener Saturday forenden, will Le rotand. If such she question of expediency. Now, I observe that ally raised by a few, it has been contributed to by town. I have increased the vote from $23,000 the public meeting of October, 1878 banced value of land, for, as a matter of question, at the date of its to the new Attorney-General, whoorpressedurery the cake I see to ocession for any mention of in this report sous geopaat is given, of u met so many, and of diferent natio austication, koptimus that lebts the town with gas that they may Resentment on this occasion got the better being granted, was not worth at most above

lag whiol was bold by the of the now a bond publio any lights clar epivion-an opinion soincident with that of nationality. I see no reason why the sathe noti all his predecessure--that the legal estate is vestan fention should not be put up us is in this Library. Uity. Hall in which they associated with thom up by public funds and not by any particular set sensider the propriety of increasing the number of discretion, and the Colony was treated one-fourth of the amount. It must not be la Me Rrris that the money, if any were to be puid. "Her, Log" from the Governor.) I take the elves for the purpose of discussing the question or nationality. My hon. friend (Reiss of lights and refacing the cost por light. My to the undignified spectacle of its Governor forgotten that in the ordinary course in a should be paid to Mr. Ryrie. A letter was weiblon

sema abjection as your Havellent to the distino era fuised the Chief Justice and Bishop Basin in potub of fact it was opened fres, there proposal is (Mr.

The Governme by the Acting Culonial Sopretary is the City tion made, and I have rousou to know that of lat: den, and cho doantigth whisk is bere given om te restrictions. Iroha Chiosensor pollo now, as the hon. gentleman making su unprovoked attack upon certain municipality such an institution would be hore take the taxes and they are burdenoug Hall Committee in which he said The G. no respectable person has been refused alinition if the contes of that insating, having regard to times, when they have spoken about any onnicity roggestion was that they should make a redze absent members of the community who had provided out of the rates. vernor desires the to say be is authorized by the except during the time reserved for Chines- the three spects of the question I huse referred boing added to the Muzeum, ask me whether Ition of thirty-three per cent. In thoort. I expect insured his displeasure. The City Hall enough in all conscience-but live the Scoretary of State to suggest the fros opening 1 females. Therefore I cannot sex why the $1,200 to, is somewhat curious. The meeting is and to would give them an order, or how they could some on. Thongh I have made some the Museum for a period of six months. Iu dug should be kept back from being expended in ave discused the question in all its bourings, get in. I said they could always get in "No," addition to the vote it would not be possible to Museum dierute derives most if not all of its British and foreign residents to subscribe 0-1 am to express the hops of His Excellency suot a motul manube upon a mere matter of The publis, apparently, have not Boes all the flu said. wet down and they say it is not bara the number of lights 1 should like to coo Simportance from the fact that the Governor the funds to build an institution which they that the Counittes will see its way to the mentioning untionality. Then it comes to be tearings of the question yet, and I about the time for Chinees ur it is the time for women, withons samo reduction in the cost. Dvory one has attempted to fore his dive race pre had a right to expect would be done for them.

the Committea or Your Excellency. My opi-port of this mooting that the bearings of the coolle able to get down cuce in six months. Ilo ducted, apor our police, is an oxpenditure from

the Truston,"

The answer is: "The new re.

adoption of the suggestion, and so remove a question of who is to give way,' Is it to be vurtainly way it is a fair jaforense from the re- This happaus, perhaps, to come unfortanete admits that the exponitare, as it is now con-tectious down the throats of the foreign/ Lac grant of a good site for the finest build- all sums of difference between themselves and ton is the Committaa should:gira, way. Your question, the mest inperant, were not before finds the place is closed. I consider that should which you give valuable culte. If you community. Practically all that heneks has in the Colony, and the small contribution.

of $1,200 yearly to pay the salary of tire Kulations were so fully considered, and the Excultonsy is the bead of this Colony and the re-the mooting; otherwise, the arse of the dis not be. It is a publio institution, and any person on manage to reduce crime by prevention, if jority were so clearly in favour of them that presentatite of Her Majesty the Queen. Hardly cursion to say mulai wasu eest extraordinary one. shall be able to get in. Thoa this moking are give to this community great confidence, be conceded, and it is probable the: had the Librarian and Curator, surely constituted tho the Committee are unable to see that any unfal seything is involved, and I think the Committee Now here is the report. We have the Bishop distinction between Chinest mal Eurogenas pats if they me go longer alarmed about burglaries matter been approached in a different spirit least that could possibly be done by the Go- sod could be sarved by trying the experiment with a good grace might give way. (Applause). introduced with this fourist The Bishop, the Commitee in a far wors position than and assaulta at night, you not only save the pro- satisfactory arrangement might have been vernment. They certainly do not warrant

such interference as that attempted by Go suggested." So it comes to this, that these Hon. W Kxzwidz-It has been very satie-who has maido for Luny years amongst the before, because they have disregarded the prin porty the thieves may be taking, but prodate a

vornor HENNSSEY, and still less do they af gentlemen, the majority of whom are not factory to a

Chinos and has a thorough knowledge of their riple on which the grant was given; which was state of win which cables all in the colony to one to.

The real fact, however, is that Governor ford ground for the effect to set race against British subjects, are, forsooth, to exclude the H EXCELLENCY saggested that some other language," I don't see how that hears precisely that le was given not only on behalf of Europeans conduct their business affairs, with greater satia- faction, and I know no better economy thai LAY- Queen's British subjects from the City Hall, for gen lemen might wish to spools, and if so that customs and fooling that is more per but Chinese also,

tivost,teing nuo of those who supported the Hon. W. KESWICK-1 was only going to ring an aficient police force. But, as I said, if you was has estranged himself from his race, un unhappy task he seems bent on which bad worth $70,000, or mare, was granted Mr. Keswick ought to reply on the wilole. by the Crown to all the inhabitants that these Hoa, No Cuor-Your Excellency, as this new regulations. After deciding apon these mark, a sheer time ago, that when the Museum give me some other couros of revenus I shall be dountrymen and from foreigners by bis por essaying wherever he goes.