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Hongkong, 14th November, 1378,

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thatthe Empire le tae, rast graveyard. Wherever you go in the Central Kingdom you are sure to find the potted boss or burial mounds of the muccatore of the Elvek- haired race, and a curious mixture of re- verence and superstitke randers the Clunes people peculiarly agree to any interficence with these mouldering mnants of

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The or Ameer of Kashgaris has antored the Russian devise, and hus bont fongiosarily ap pointed in composed of some troops dantoral in the Choralent distrist. Pensions have been to officiels who achim in his flight

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TEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

Hon I. LowCOOK. Hon. W KESWICK, Hon, T., AYELAR, Q.C.:

ILLNICE OF THE ATTIENET-ONNIKAL,

His EXCELLENCY-Gentlenou, I am sorry to form you that the Attorney General is unable

attend.oming to illnas.

·BADI. ACCOMMODATION, N

The ACTING COLONIAL TREASURER-Your celloney, before coming the debate of last Monday on the subject of gaol extension, I would big lay upon the table estimates of the cost of the alternative schames referred to in the dis patch of the Secretary of State of the 5th June last. Coples of this doctament aro alremly in the hands of homens, I was about lo ashtu be permitted to add a brief work in illustration of some of its contents.

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mado to the Commandant to refrain from ages its sympathics in Vienna by decorating Conversion of associated cells in present 10,000 yet to be tried. I think it is one which recomThat I understand the state of the native toga is move in the right direction, and Itrust it will not

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Your Excellency will reset that a proisat heo is a mere mortable place in nummer: an institution which I am sure they fas) prească. thereof, and it must be viewed as the costen from pellch very much in the menstuf, was rejected by The vells are not harmstiendly sealed, A misting of the Legislative Council was held the Sorstary of State, and this is simply a purront of air through all of them. Chinese boys are set with's Furopean educatin yesterday alteration There were present-unundment on it, ngamuch as it leaves a large. They are superb places for the criminal and its civilising misdans. But it is fgaard.

“HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR

ston between the old and new felldings, but it to reside in partionlarly oriminals of the The new building, long ego planned, the site for -Hon. SNOWDEN, Acting Cuigt Justice.........

100s the suorine of the site of the Pollao Chinese class. Now, air, with regard to Stone it. akared some vars ago, and nothing done Hog. O. MAY, Acting Colonial Secretary. Courts. I have unite to offer you for them. I cutter'e Kaland. I have bat one opinion, and that Why is it this? It Is Imowa that the prosent Hon. J. M. Puros, Anting Colonial Treasurer. don't know whore they may be placed. My learned is that it should butterly condemned, Iballare boilding is wholly unfitted for the Ausbor of Hon. PEyzIE.

friend opposite (the Loting Chief Justice) rooms there to be no necessity for it. On the other hand, pups that are within its wells. We are to think they might, perhaps, with convenienos I belieya were the gaol to be removed the most aware that the masters have suffered Berorely, to the Low Courta, ba placed in the Enpeono would be enormous to construct one, and the some of them having doutracted disease with Court building Thar ia ale the plan of coat would not end there. We should havyan in its over-orowled walls that bas carried placing them on the sita purchased in 1872 for anual burden sing the taxpayers for the keeping them to their rares. I think it is well to $1000 oprite the Civil Hospital. But I am up of a strong gund, for Bloncatter's Island is be plaits in this matter, bacano it appears to use popared to remmend that at the present rather iselated also costly service of me it should be known if there is any mistake mommt, because Fan not eartain the space would atonication with Hongkong. We should inad: about whence the delay arise. It is said that suffos for thevery largo requirements and ingresa-dition not get rid of this gool. It is, in my opinion, the opposition of a would be coloniastical stop remind the living of the departed. The molas exhibited in the Chiness section. Mr.

Jug Archi se of le Police Courts, However, absurd to imagine we could. Wo must have a good, shignitary has prironted the caverimmation of Chinese have always protested against any Glorer is aagayed upon a estalagus cf thesdesine,

bere are the esthaile soiting forth the coat of small or largo, in the town. I think that was the hopes of the Colony with regard to edination, illustrated with woodouts, which should proro a

admitted at the last meeting. At least several Strango, if true, that from the source from· molestation of those loubs, and the notessity valuable guide to the coin collentors who had

the different schemes o

Ho W. KESWICE-Your. Broolloney, the jeakers some to be of my own opinion that whense wo should hope for the highes: kan. fer removing them to make way for any hitherto to depend rainly on Chaudoir's work..

discusion which took place when we lost met was it is beplately assary for the administration ledge there shoutto opposition to the aliments of railway would is one of the prime

The total amount nbscribed to the China Fa,

unexpected by the majority of hen. members of of justice that there should be a prison in the of stupation. I live not innoh more to say. the Council, but the statement that your Exool town Your Brellency alluded at our last mint, your Exeloney, but I trust I have re induces to carrying out such a scheme in wine Kolist Food is £32.083 Is, irrespective of

lensy then made, dial the remarke which followed; isp to a conversation whiskt passed a few months, deemed the promise that I would at this Chi But, according to the Shes-pas, of over £14,000 contributed by the variosta mi

I think, were of grat dae in bringing forward yo. I then heard of this possible achens of renting state the chibellous which I 300 Lo espect for the ancestril bones does not seem sionary societies in England. Amongst the most

this subject in a manner calculated to have the viving the Stongsatter's Island Gaol and Ten spending the many of this Colony upon either. to be so strongly felt by His Excellendy the tee, who bare forwarded 181, and additional High Level Projut

$150,94) recent contributions are the Rotterdam Commit÷

RECAPITULATION.

merits of the question at question fully red to express an opinion that the cortunity the extension of thepresqut gaol or the building of a rentiated The fa temuka I made on that oe- would learn of apk a project with great disastin new one. Much may be cons, cartainly, I believe, Grand Secretary, Li Euro-cuANO, Who oaps of £100 from the Dublin Committes; 273

-Low Laval Project * lang. 195,700. asian met bencinged your Exoollens that lotion. I also contiened, it remember nightly, toreduce the number of prisoners that are within from the Manchester Committes £60 from the Netgal

183,200 pears rather beat upes ujuelling a dims-

my views on the usation were very decided that they were til of the manner in whitone the gaol. I don't want to go over again the ground Thunder Committee, and £30 from the Ghigow

Extension fi prevent gol. 94,000 NOTK bonoured indition. It is stated that a Committen investea heen russized.

oner, though at the moment I was not pre- Governor might, propose and execute an ander- of deportation of whipping and of all the mesos. Linda- both extra croients of the pag sont got these will byla prarste rolls, as also Ser to ontor hate details. The prosent mol taking and issuessor destroy it. We have had sory punishments but whether they are approved general in command of a garrison stationed.

coils myablont holding 10 prisonsta. The

is, to my opinions of a most excellent experience of these costly undertakings, and my of at home or not thoy as the only pavishinents. outside the west gate of the city of Tieu-political communications with China Austria in antended

Although not having direct commercial 'aalprosent women's ward and the Haltom ward will outer. Ita sination has been described impressions the Colony is not in love with that will suit theeass of orisinala that we have by my bon friend on my right (Mr. Hayllar) them. It would be well, it appears to me, to deal with. We should imel backs on China tho tein has commenced to repair the road has always shown a dertain inferuat în Chinese

(Signed). J. M. Pare

asing in the midst of a crowded town. It tint the policy of a Governor the bobbles many, who are attracted to this place by the cle. Burropos General. in that teglitourhood and render it fit for affairs, and in the new trenty with the Lloyd

is in town certainly, but not in a crowded part or idens which more or loss we all like meney of our nami the comforts of our prison. ****In both High and Law Level Projects, cwing to Company, provisions have been stipulated with the ambiltzekosa monekana really derivace of tile city. It is placed on the slope of a ter to mir-should be confined within the narrow. They come, not a honest men to asyn tilðir lis. She Leinsport of heavy guns. The rond reference to the extension of the Unicatiu lines a larger insene from pet the Hollywood-road and raced hill, and 1 Jg it believe that more pure air, et kourds when it is a matter which cong they come mat of them to pay upon tha Ga. rubs through a populous district and it to Hongkong. Owing to the Exbibition of Cainora ss by their adaptation to Chinese tonu or more invigorating Bresses are enjoyed in any orns an expenditure of money: There is in this lony. We shouldget rid of them. I was glad to was fined with old graves. As it was very 1876, and tho praiseworthy exertions of the Ori- manata, it in qatonbla whather, in aquity the part of the town than on the site of Victoria matter an enormous expenditure of money in observe that your. Bxcellency ad radioed the Gaol, The building itself in a comparatively lived, and I think there is reason for this epi- dietary Inderstood, notwithstanding the uneven the cficer entrusted with the executal Massem, handed by the active and cater vermont end acqitte ofther piece of land for the

prising Herr von Seala, the Celestial Buspire has values bere assessed.

VICTORIA, GAOLI

new one. It certains, perhaps, overy impravo- manity to view with the greatest possible objec-statement of your Excellency that it was ang tion of the work did not besitate to leral the bécane rather popular in Austria of late, so that Comparative cost of the projects mastal in Soare- meet that a medier gaol is expected to possess, tan the expenditure of more money on gaas at gested to you by soma Chinese gentlemen, that with the solitory exception that it was rot de Stonecultor's Island, or even in the extension of it was's recommendation, contained in a raport graves where required. This act exojted some any hopes are entertained as for the future of tary of State Despotol N. 48 of 5th June 1978.

our intercoures with the Far East. The Chinese High Level Project-er:smelon, up Cale-road. indignation, & ruseting attended by several Government seems to be well informed of the Parules of huden, to see,140 signed for prisnoes under the new system called the present ous. Thy reneous I have for eater of the Gaol Committen, and that it had heor the separate toh. Well, that system hasining suit strong epicians are briefly these actioned by others. Bo that as it may, it is a thousand persons was held, and an appeal turn public opinion bas taken here, and our Levelling and retaining site for saus...

Building now block with 206 separate selli ...

reeds itself as being in all probability the most fadomeribably had, that the increase of population them. This is the list of the Austrian official building into suparats ogs

10,500 daterent mode of confinement which can be an to which you Excellency alluded at our last molesting the graves. He told them bo was who received the Order of the Dragoo. First

plied to prisonore. Victoria Gact also torhostely manting which is undoubtedly one of the best Tote!...... je je $150,948 B. WATSON AND CO., only obeying orders, and that he did not Class-Bacon Flofrunz, Imperial Minister of

pass, although it was not designed for it, a signs of the prosperity of the Colony has aleg 2-Low Level Project, (extonsiga on ta Polica pra Finances; Baron Sehwegel, Head of the Foreign

Barber of cells that might be converted into its-alarming ežlu, and that is that there has been FAMILY AND Disrsyste

think it was likely the works would be Deucent in the Board of Trade: Baron Cades cincts, removal of Police Barracks to Hollywood.

sapamte colls for grisoners. At the present time | gothing done, er comparati tly little to make "CHEMISTS,

stopped in the middle of their exocation, formerly A rein Mjuister la Chine and Jepang Parchess of Mr. Sassoon's lots

$48,200 there are twenty four of these cells completed, mob an indux to the population of the townsny but that he would communicate their vishes and now of the landing men of the Foreign Building new block with separate rella 64,000 Thou are also taty-four in course of sample thing but dangosas. I bollovo, Sir, that in 1975.

Affairs Office: Baron Schwarz Sanborn, the Ereation of new Police Barraku.

79, tion; these make &, but Lonkrstand that in the the Suar oppr. Oncral and tus Colonial Surgeon to the Viceroy. What His Excellency Ja former Director-General of the 1879 Exhibition. Conversion of ocated rolls in present go? 16,500 Court of a low morths the number might be very ware appointed a Commission, to raport upon the

building into separate calla aumingman will do tennis to be seen, but past ex- The following gentlemen bare roccival_ the

really brought up to between 20 and 60, which sanitary state of Victoria. Their labours were Total parience has shown that he is not the man to Second Clues: Arthur von Seala, Manager of the

$196,50 would represent a rery large percentage the commenced, bit unfortunately soon after the Oriental Museum, who will undertako a royage Cost of Eriction of a mw gael at Siescoutters La prisoners in the gaol, because it is not, I presume, work was begun the Surveyor. General was taken allow the prejudices or desires of the people to Chian, with the intention of sporing drost and with 5 separate soils.

$158,000 intonded that all the prisoners should be onl to stand in the way of any project upon commandations with the Colestial Empire, Now a

400 fined in separate sells prisoners, for example, which he has set bis mind. Were the, work Soberzer, formerly Conent-General at London, Quarters for staff and guard..

6,300 undergoing, short sentences. The site is cap and now at Loipzig: Baren Falke and Baron

bls of an airbension: which I believe would of foreign origin or suggestion it would, hon Kraus. Dr. Plason, belonging to the Nitistry

adult, in the out of new wings being added erer, be easy to predict its fate.

for Foreign A Fairs, and M. Schönberger, Consul

addition to the prossut structure, of an General, have received the Third Class of the

parhaps of wards for 250 prienzers. The site of same Order.

the Magistracy, which is adjacent, is large, while the piece of ground which was bought not vory largag opposite the hospital might niso be taken 50,000 into consideration. That pisse of land; I notics, Is BXCELLENCY-What is the date of it?

Hos W. KESWICK-February, 1815. That 20.000 har the bouses iuina, turabling down, and nn.

atilbod. Such as extension of the gaol woult report, I understand, was of too horrible a chor-

I have the bononele stato that by the Gaol Ordingerte not be an overcrowding of the site. As I have oter it was foured the alarm created by itFnaticon of the Faits are only stopowered to to 11,400 said, the position of the site would prevent would be too great, and it has not seen the hightoutor to revise prison rules and regulations.

The Attorney-Geral, to whom I have refertori tho anything of the Ind. Euonuevo, Sir, though of day yet, that is, it has not been published. State for the Colonies for the time being. Some of the sets that were elicited by the son may consider that the gaol is in the Gomen who investigated the sanitary state of the soure of a toi on a plain, in a densely Colony at that time, you will nuderstand, por- polster part of the city it is our duty, Iba laps. if I mention one or two cases. cele, Sir, it is your duty, to give everyone whe takes an intertuin this question the plain, an prejudiced, and rat truth that, in regard to the ute, there is no better in the island for sanitary purposes. Now I come to consideration of ile question whether the Gaol is fully adopted af His EXCELASIC-I thought you bid. the present time to the ordinary requirements of Ho W. KESWICK-No, I was going to say the Culony considering the great number ofhuil soma nntas

His EXCELLENCY-I have not soon the report. Curie, which I received to-day, show that scrived in April, 1377. If it was not forwarded though there has been occasiorally times when the Secretary of State or laid befors this daol was deusly crowded, or what Lalpuld Council, I am not to blame. Furthermore, if aider, andaly growded--it would be if all the anyone le suppled my hen friend with exacta Tb is signed by this same gentleman. On the 11th inuers were Baropean-still there had been shall not be able to deal with them. It November the following reply was raccized its when the sambors bad bean, 305, 357, 310, ought to have ban forwarded, but I bare not Hongkong Magistracy, 11th November, 1818,

arded, but Y

ÜENTLEMEN, have the honour to acknowledge g 353, auil 354, and that not for one yake hat seen the report.

Hon. W KECE-I have no txtracts from receipt of your tetr of th instant and regest that 1

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damage was dono.

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Encloscro walling

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Dednet presieds of sale of portion of present

yool and site

Balance

PEELENT GAOL EXTENSION. Boisting yow Blook on prebent. Magistracy

site with 170 Sullary celle

chain 172...

$1832

$60,000 5188,203

Beilding qurtore for good staff zu sito para Conversion of associated cells in Wing A C

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The Acers COLONIAL TREASURER-The Colonial. Surgeon, I think.

Hon. W. KRWICH-They were both taken at any rate, and their illness was attributed to the very unpleasant and painful duty they lad to perform, that of visiting houses which it was alust poisoning to entay. That report, I have

doubt, has been seen by your Excellency has not been published.

he long until we hear of other changes. The Justices of the Pan have taken come interest in this matter of mol regulation and, addressed a letter, which I have no doubt your Excel leacy is acquainted with, ou the End of this month to Mr. Creagh the Police Magistrate. With your Excellency's permission I will read the cor respondence.

Hongkong, 3nd November, 1878. SIB.-Wo hour to requcet that yon will be good enough be condue, and provide nt, a special meeting of the Instiens to dienas various matters corrected with the gnol, especially the question of the noosity for its pajected or largement.

Ifeonvenient fo all respects we enggest that the rating be held on Friday, the 8th instant, at ros o'clock in the aftomson

Wa ara Sir, yenrobeillent servants,

(Bigned)

(BigDad

Bigued)

W. KESWICK.

H. Lowcook.

I I. NEsox.

D. BASSOON.

Signed R. H. SANDEMAN. To C. V. Cragh, Esa, Police Magistrate,

The reply to the lotter, dated the 7th Nopm- ber; is in these words-

GENTLEMEN h reply to sur letter of an instut

Hongkong ngistesoy, 7th November, 1873

to

HONGKONG DISPENSARY. (17 port, bat the fire was extinguishod before me million roubles a year, which is little more than For this expenditure is obtained an aggrezato of 4 Sir Michael Hicks-Beach; the Secretary of bepo it has gobo to the Becretary of State. males, is of apirim that we have no power by virtue

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HONGKONG, NOVEMBER 19TH, 1878.

THE relations between Rusia and China certainly do not improve, and the" work be- fore His Excellency Ca'on How seems

formauce by the Royal English

Opera Company of Sir Julius_Baneliot's Opam "The Lily of Killarney. Miss Clara Stanky will take the part of Bily, and the rater cave sound will ha produced in its entirety.

likely to grow in difficulty during his journeydere which was returned from the flag ship Vio to St. Petersburg. Two or these grave items for Emanuel,

of nuwe just come to tukaŭ show when put The first rare of the season will take place to together that both Governmesto are really day of the Hongkong Tacht Club, the yachts adverse to and suspicious of each other. assembling for a start at ten am, off the Coal-

LATEST TELEGRAMS,

REUTER TELEGRAMS. (SUPPLIED TO THE DATET PRESA”.

xoel-

His EXCELLENCY-May I ask, one mint, has this report been laid before the Connell

The ACTING COLONIAL TREASURERNO, Hon. W. KESWICK÷I have not got the re port.

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of office to discuss the gocation of salarging the baile- Coneaqueath I should not be justified in calling

a meeting of the Justices for that purpose. ;

I have the boat to be, dontlamin, your most obe- Went servant,

C. V. CACH, Acting Police Magistrate. On the 9th November the following letter was addressed to Mr. Creagh-

Hongkong, Hth November, 1879. SIE-Thanking you for your, coramtinication of 7th. instant, we have is hohour to request that you will

revis the ralen ar regulations of the gaol,

convene and Frankleta maeting of the festines to If conveniunt is all rompects we anggest that the porting be held on Friday text, tas 15th instaat, af half-past three o'dock in the afternoon.

We have the howar to be, Bir, pour obidiout net. zants--

...

The present 'grol-zegriations (which were intro.

to me to answer in every way the pazpoza kar which they are intended. It therefore participate in afy menstres taken with a view to their aberation--

have the honor to be, Gentleman, your most obs

C. V. szex, Asting Police Magistrate. To that latter the following nuwer was sent on

the 16th November

we have the lower to saknowledge receipt

Hongkong, 16th November, 3878 of year letter of fith mutant, and wma regral, the an- it courage to one application to you to call a Meeting of the Justices of the Peace.

Thus on the one hand we learn that the Gishes at Kowloon. They have all more or less PEx RASTERN EXTENSION, AUSTRALASIA, AND site. With regard to this last auggostion, he September, 408 Detobar, 405 November, 461; emakę flas; stack door seda bolo. 1 foot squaring of the Justice when invited to do so-and we zo. -

!bron altered or added to a d will come out, this-

vernment of Peking has ordered all Russian woning gay in new suits of white. The Ariel en bjeste to leave Kazhgar, while on the other has had no less thao.sixteen feet put into her and other alterations which, in a light brese, it is

a letter frohr Teheran in the Deutsche Zelieved will enable her to hold on with the best fung states that the Russians have begun to of them. erect fortresses on the borden of Kashgarin. It is further stated that the ex-årser of Kashgaris bas entered the Russian service

Yesterday afternoon the patent portable rolf. meting fire engines of the Government Fire Bri gade ware practised with for siding in extinguish- ing fires.. Two large bonfires wore mado consis-

CHINA TELEGRAPH COMPANY'S, LINE]

LONDON, 16th November. EMİBARÉATION OF THE BRITISH MINISTER FOR CHINA,

Sir Thomas Wace embarked for Chins in the Franco rail steamer Traunddy.

CORRESPONDENCE.

uspressed by our Correspondents).

of the body of Justices by a capricious refusal to oummon or attand their mostings.

We have the havour to bo, ate.

No reply has bon received to that Jetter. Indeed

to the st of land n: Hongkong, it may think-although your Excelleney did not think Now, I muintea that these people ought to have there has not ben time for one, to be received.

The delivery of the English mail was begun at 7.10 yesterday morning.

The Noise Freya, commenting, upon the n. Chizese ambassador to St. An Italian hark shering a

signal" NDCJ appointment of bound to Hongkong from Cardiff, was spoken on. Petersburg, hopes that the commercial relations between the two countries may now be dereced. the 5th September.

At the present time, says the Norge Vrempe, the

and E of present gael into 253. separato total amount of cur-trade with China, exclusive)

cells..... of the trade in ten with the outlying proriaces. of the Celestial Empire, varies from ten to fifteen

Total Seun a Gwentieth part of the international trade of the pacate cells in addition to 20 amoniated palle with The following vages have arrived at New country. This cannot be a normal state of things for 60 prisoners in Wings I and. which remain autonehel The Women'e and debtors' prison and York:-Septembar 29ed Glamis Castle frem. To when it is remember that our frontiers touch the gnol Hopital ale zasto available as at prescut kohama, 24th, Kaiser from Manila, aud John for a distance of 3,000 or 3,000 miter, The This project entafle the strips of the Magistro Harvey from Shanghai: Lith, Sam from Manila principal articles of export from Chien into Ballings.

Russia are tea and sugar, which the Kassian Before proceeding T think it only right to express The Oritsinal Sessione. were formally oponed marchants buy at Foodhow,' Hankow, and Tian- my grest nogret I was not able to be present in yesterd y moring and adjourned unti to day tsin. Our imports into Chins consist chietly of ay seat on Monday last to reply to any questions at ton o'clock. The calendar containa to names woollen fabrics, cotton goods, and furs, and their that might have beou zddressed to me. I hope that At Singapore, on the 9th instant, the wife of Cap. of oloven prisonore, including that of Newman, value is not more than four million of roubles, or my absence did not cause any inconvenience in

charged with earder.

less than half of what we purchase from Chinn. fant I. venture to hope it may havo k of some The easilyss of our imperts is due to the com-advantage in giving to another wok be consider Saturday evening next, is fixed for the perpetition of the English, who andersall us in wood the matter. I read with' grot interest the Feriminals who have to be imprisoned. Thoro and cotta thongh the quality of our goods is porte of the debate, and wetlood particularly the very much unperior to thoirs. The only market very naluti ohjation of the honourable gentle. in which we can hold one our gainst them is at me uporate (hir. Keswick), whs appeared His Kalgan, hat this is only bananas of the tastos inglined to enter into any project until we had which form a barrier between the different pay the cotimates of the probable cost. The deen The amateur concert i comtiemoration of the vinces of Chine. The English goods have be payments I Lawe just had the honour of laying upon duty before they can reach Kalgan, and this is the table contain these estimates, and with the death of Franz Schubert in 1828 will take place why we ought to direct all our efforts towards nonenrrorge of the Canoil I would venture taseries of years. I have not had time to this evening in St. Andrew's Hail. The pro-inducing the Chinese Cerarament to opes the comïeut very briefly on some of the figures ecAdlyse the liguess anita acmarately, but therthe report, I baro not coon it. What I was go- mnable to comply with juar rast. gaunu will be found in our advectising columns. The proceeds of the consert are to be devoted to waiter frontier of the empire to car trade, where that we may leave nothing to be misunderstood beon trogen ly for long period together, ing to way was this, that I have no doubt the reduced any inat yes by Ci Arthur Kennedy) pppear

Curiously enough, whenever there has been in port contained some saob statemente sa too-- ongkong an impression that the Executive Hia EXCELLANCr-May I ask the authority the funds of the City Hall Wo havo so doubt it would not have to straggle with English I hold in my hand the despatch to your

rompetition. The aquitable and disinterested lengy from Sir Micheel, Hicks Beach and which

Hon W-TICK-A creditable-authority. the concert wirbe a grat seccoRS.

His ExcLENOVI hope my hon. friend will ecndact of Russia towards the Celestial Empire your Excellancy catod to be published in the poor is deficient in energy, that the experienOS The paddle despatch-beat Vigilant arrived here ought to convince the Chinese that we are worthy Goernalen: Goznite. In that despatch, after of the past is forgotten, that the laws which that yesterday morning from Canton at Moo, with of their confidoneo, and that, if recent evenis pondoaming the proposal which I had the honour experience has used this legislature to pass have no objection to state the authority, as thient servant

base been forgotten, Chat night passes are igno. is a publie haard Commodore Watson, Major Palmas, Major Strag- have strained our relations, the blame maat be in submit pants to instructions from Lond red, that Isaten are no longer in we, and Hou. W. Krs-Mr. Alford is my sathe han, Captain Napier (Magpie), and Taymaster impated the blindness and cbstinacy of their Cornaro Sir Michel Hioka-Besch gout thu thieves. uriinais, and others can roam about Wyatt (Victor Emaneth, on board. On the wa agents.

on to suggest to your Excelloney three the town, advantage is tale of it and we find

His EXCELLENCY-A very high and trust snival of the Vigilant the United States corretto

alternative projects which he requesta muy the timinal eta inorcasing. I find that in worthy authority,

Hen, W. KWICK-If I may be permalitede be carefully investigates and a farther report Janary, 1876, on the second day of that th Ashaclot, Captan Perloor, suinted the Commo..

made to him. These projects vero First, that were in-gul 888; February, 390; March,

His EXCELLENCx---Certainly. the high level project of extending the gel 375, April, 26 May, 36, June, 414; Jaly, 891;

Hon. W. KESWICx-The first case I would' Tan give as a reason for not complying with any up to the Cainorcal; second, the project of August, 114, September, 125 October, 521, mention is this

request your opinion that the present gol regulations extending the gel in to Palios precincts, and Narembor, 641 Decembnr, 516, January, 1877, No.61, at street, Taipingshan, ground door feat was in every way the purpone for which they word

intondad, removing the Central Palice Station; and third,

451, February, 120; March-358; April, 339;iaoken legs 16 feet 1 inch wide, 11 feet high, floor

We submit, thaiyour own opinku, valuablo sa wo that of creting now reel on an artirely new May, 340; Jupa 160; July, 389 August, 378 of man feet inch bow trout and aide chappat admit it to be, of the efficiener of the gael ralca la not kitchen 7 cat by if feet with a sleeping room in it, suficient ream ht your dictatig to summon a Meet enjoins particular care should be taken to do Desember, 437; then in January of the prosent 8 chambers or partitions, 7 families: 18 people in anest a reconaidacions of your decision. pure all availablo sides with that at Stonnottar por, 483 Fabnary, 493 March, 478 April, binding as tense and children, a loft & feet high. We disire to tont ant that by station If of On- ส Island together with those vo may have on this 551--it should act be forgotten that there was gataining Omori people. Bont $7.50 per month, arta No.4 of 1861, ander which we wish to act, it sido of the water Raforring to the schedule placed in your hands, boa member will see that a large delivery December; in one day thirty ce au erda, tenant years in possession, and down that at Meetings of Jastices of the Fosse

leaks, the house bas not been repaired during ton the cost of realising the first alternative scheme prisoners were liberated. I presume from their out of several years' cocupation. The cockhouse one of the Justices must be a Police Magistrate, Sad that it in hardly to be supposed that in framing this tinus having expiri—May, 589 : June, 193: July. uncy, water comes in at the door. There is a well in proposed by the Secretary of State comes to

Beation there wagan intention to give the Megistrada 494 Angust; 347: September. 500. October, 24; the house, and 8 ure in its immediate rainly. It

Ita right to under angstory the opinions sul powoce $150,940. These figures pretty clearly set No. 4th 517, and Nov. 18th,519. You will observe is 7 fed down to the water which stande forth the cost of the project, with the ex-

that during the greater part of this year there inches doop. The subtenants are bricklayers haw. caption perhaps of the $66,440 which repte has been a cons brable increase in the number do not come bome at night, the others rightly wash kers, ship-coolice, cook, and a boatbuilder; them and has been given a command. Now, ting of sharings. tar barrels, and kerosine, on a

seats the cost of the land. With regard of prisoners in the Geni. One osuse of this I themselves in the cookhouse. considering that the Chinese Government plece of groutat the rear of the West Point olioc Wade'not hold unrestos responsible for the episions

be convenient I should explalu the principles before I was happy to see that on Monday their comforts attended to in a sanitary paint of would have led in their meeting together at the bat I hoped that an application by the justices demand the surrender of the Ameer, tais ap the water was played upon it and it was so ax- Batiga. After the firs had got a good hold

on which the Gorerament Amor proceeds to pointment cannot be regarded as anything ingnisbod. Mr. J. Parker, Insportereby,

THE SECOND CHINESE MEMORIAL.

value Jat The system is one that has been inst your Excellenay attached some importance view, if they have not the attention the prisoners adhered to for many yours past in the departinent to the low faces on the Canton boats. These low in Victoris Gawl liare. There is another case gaol, together with a Police Magistrate, and be TO THE EDITOR OF THE "DAILY PRỤ:3," short cf a direct slap in the face to China, and Mr. C. Wasserins very present and will re

10, Lower Lanny Row, Seamen's Boarding Hose matter of the regulations of the gaol. I coming fully conversant with this important SIB, Your correspondents K. L. & C. Lek I have the huur to preside over. First the gross faces have always in my opinion, had some effect As a proof, moreover, that Bassia has con. Furt upon the trial.

"What right you have," &c., &o. Now permit annual rent of the land is taken and from that on the increase of crime here: Your l'reelleney ficessed for 45 men, 18. banks below, room there 37

feet 9 inches by 1 fest 6 inches be 8 feat.9 incas hope still we may have that opportunity. templated the contingency of a quarrel with Return of risitors to the City Hall Library and also to ssh what right you have to fill the gives anal reat the assessor dedupts certain was of a different opiniog at one tim

His ExazzOT-Na, not entirely of agh. Ona bank feet 5 inches by feat inthes There is one matter which I had overlooked Chins, it is obly necessary to refer to the Museum for the week ending November 17th- polutans of a journal which should be devoted to items, trance, grant, depreciation of different opisier. What i montioned before was high. 48 men na the next door, 163, cuba fut pe almost, but which is really so important that I

EVEOTEAM. CHINIRE the instraction of the public with such trask as buildisers, and the ordinary yearly repairs, and that I did not tallove the cheap fares from Canton man,

hope your Excellency will allow me to return to careful explorations of the country that have Monday

the letter of which we now complain, as to the making sum of these deductions, he arrives at won the sofe case of the increase of orine here. There are a number of cases which it would it. It was with reforenes to important rules on Tuesday

meddling busy-bedies who now compose the the net amual incons: This annual income he said it was not tirely dis to that

be tedious, perlaps, to read, but I may mention the sanitary state of the tow. The Chinese been and are still being made by Russian Wednesday

Hot W. KRSTICE-1 am glad your Bredthat formerly in one place there were seventy have very different ideas from ours on same wat- Ting Wah Hospital Committoo, but few wards oapitalises at fifteen years' purchas. En ting officers, The Moscow Gazelle publishes

tore, especially, I should think, on the matter of are necessary, because spanking of this institu. land it is generally troleo years, but here in the letter from Semiretchinsk-stating that two

tion as a political power its days are numbered. Blast it has been fifteen years. That is sat down loney bas expizind that, because it has removed pige kept. I think there are pigs now in a ra Ita meddlesome interference with the free emius the salto, plus ten per cent for ferd misapprehension on my part These figures duced number. I believe also some of the bouses gaols and the meccanity of keeping their lenses officers have been sent from the town of

de not indicate that the Gaol is insuficient for visited showed list there were pigs nut on the plan and what we should consider the amount of gration by means of assisted, passages to Hons. sumption by the Crown. I do not know of aby the requiretoants of our criminal population, and ground floors only bet on the other sireys, air which temats should possess or have the Kuldja.to explore the country lying between-

ful broke its hack, and now this last barst of system that could be fairer. At the same time I believe it is porrble by a vigorous punishment of and that mabers of them were kept under means of obtaining. On the 24th of May Captain Horroratxin's outposts at Noryn | The Times mysA good deal of anxioty is enthuisers has we are somewhat ander die fuit must to confessed as often as ziet proprietors printers to gially reduce their number. We the bite of the Chinese, and that the water morial was addressed to your Eroellency by a of land say, "I have ae objection to your valua shown respecting the Olyphant contrast for prossion, finished it. and the Chinese cantonments at Kashgar bringing free Chinese bour into the Republia Tha large landed property over referred to tion that is my net income; get it the same should not forget, and I think it is an important percolated from the top storey down to the aumber of Chinees in which they state, after

nister which should be farinbly insistud apón. Howar. In many places throughout the toys, too. "Each is to proceed in a diferent direction Pura Strong opmeition has always been might well have urgent business in Caniva, as if time if I were to adapt my premises to Chinese in correspondent with England, that is there are wella Theke wells in any case have complaining of interference with their rights and to carefully complete the exploration's par-wonlfested to the scheme by the British antho rumour speaks corroellys sant of some forty tenements I would be able to double my income." tially affected by Colonel KauLEARs in 1868.nities in Bongkong, and the Perusia, s steamer fire thausand Luels has already been handed over That may be true or not, hut the Gevazut loay is net as it were a part of the territory of foot and a half depth of water. They are gier to sunderstand that they are caudemned by the chartered by the Mesam, Olyphant, was obliged to the provincial government, so it will be acon Assessor cannot proosad to value on speculative Great Britain is not an island in mid-ocean in the clone lghbourhood of sower, towers are recent rules of Womara Beierce, caro, the be inde The explorations by some of the officers be to maize her first voyage to Callao without the thit ke may stand in need of the protecting asin ideas. It is for the Government afterwards where the grimized class could be dealt with of the worst possible kind. That is the tar of fact, the glooms of a labgthened experienc qustome, ee that it is quite certain-that the tamarita longing to General KAUPMANN's staff have hoped for Uhinese Now it appears that: the of a "dertain mat in power Unless we are in estigate the claim and allow what the facts wilgin our own borders, but it is an island small slate of the towns described there. In 1878 the among the Clin of living in large and crowded for whom thoro wuses are intended as they would An impoation of the Chiness districts Ciselies the not understand the reason, would in ne pay avail embraced not only Kuldja itself but the plain said antagonism on the part of the Gerament very incorrectly informed, the individual in gros may justify. That system has been applied to sugh to be mod a rook, within a stone's bon, gentleman opposite, the Surveyor-Canoral, atles, and are adoop-rooted as most of their social of China beyond as far as Manis and Kara- taking on board in another port the Chinese Authorities of Canton. So much for, the only whinh necessitates the resumption of four lots of others is noted from the turbulence of its inta- jphenomenon of a dense mass of people hardlig toge themselves of filities for the free anoses of Light

of Hongkong has presented the Perisic from tion was formerly employed by the Provincial the high level saheme; also to the low level thaw of Kwang.aag, a province which of all wrote

bitants, Welfahould not be forgotten either her in dock andil-ventilated dwellings totally devoid and it which the farvegur feruorel's proposed altern abat. These works have ritently been tor-ready to embark for this country, and she sailed person of influence in any way connected with land an saich the hospital angle. I am led to that the Chinese who game have would be very of drainage, and where the house fewagen, then re-tions would Frosis for thor minated by CaptainLARION OFF, who has travel-Yokohama in distessa, Dr. Elmore, the Pera

without her passenger, afterwards putting into the movement referred to understand hou, mebers believe this item for.

As to the term Wang," we would refer your the purchase of land is perhaps insuficient differently treated in their own country. I fuse, sad anlege re generally kept standing inside alstong the entire chain of the Sary Das moun rian Minister,, had proceeded to Paking to literata correspondents K. L. &C. to the Ring That I repost is a matter for disoission, but all maintain that we make one gool too confortable coli quae iz tub from which is evolved at Thass gentlema evidently don't like to have the It is true til the vibel anergy of the grants of proved. But your Excellency's minuts on this tains from the valley of Zoukontohakto Eshek-range the matter with the Imperial Govern i Dictionary in Chinose, or to the compliations I have toss is, if it is insuficient so much the the prisoners as too well fod, too well anted feet would turn the stomach of a garric arow dwellings of the poorer class in Hongkeng in- ment, and ha insist apoi a compliance with the and translations from is of Morrison in English, worse for this project, for it is already an ex- Very respect I must be an indirenent te such places is lowered, and their olfactory nerves memorial is une tust should be borne i mind

many of them who are starving on the mainland other so blunted be ao supernaturally fortified Baki. Besides preparing a complete plan of terms of the treaty between Foria and China, sud of some learned Jeants by rention of the pourir project, and, if we have to my more for to come here, ecumit some, petty mime, and be against the Teas to randar thou klour about in discussing the matter of putting the Chinong this district, Captain LATONOT has furnished which expressly stipulates that free emigration Great Napoleon in Latin; these two dictuaries the land than estimated, I for one would not be fanprisoned. Compared with anything they have is hat noisithstanding, the germs of dissato ran the same fosting in this gaol that Europc

it to so permitted under the solemn guaranteos am the antiorities on the subject and in them prepared to recommend your Excellency to enter

should mention with regard to the gaol, there lang to which urgently demands reform. tion of the country and a valuable sat af Her Pie din inving this very essential Beers out she wasserka do whigh I-LA object level scheme, or the extension of the gain clit The description is forcible, and in the present parol Chinese Inassa in Chan gantos of the astronomical observations. The troops of the laban supply is a matter of faith inportance to NDW the two memes, we baie soon to pilies procfacte and the moral of was 580 by Governor of Me Love file in bom donery Ksignet tenenty zu den h province of Bemirotchins are for the most trecatorulty to Clinsmen are atsppeared first especially hearing the chops of a number of or some other site wind the cost theresited this pilson, and it abours to ans stist Ring those peuple. There, riad the tract for the vas with prospect to sunt meations are entitled to the agricultural community, and now than them both and think them a lot of twaddle, the police barracka 18ood-road Hongkong 11 states to eat for the emoration of the condition of intelligent and attuatia) Chinese roadients whore Fart disparend along the fontier to protect the in Fern, and the newsomers to be specially mail Lorbers stops and other poor guarantställ higher and less commensurate with the land, with her park a charity and civilisation, bes not report on the Water Eepply of Hongkong dated the greatest weight Agreeing with the in the gant natiyes from the incursions of the Chinese." protected by the national anthorities the emi people wholly unable to read the document or advantages to be attained. It entails the forgotten to it this etablishment tincnditions 1878 Tower supply we know to be inade al principles they have now put before me, I would The Chinese, on their part, are not inclined, grant arriving here on presisely the same feraus understand the morite of the see if oxplained to erectice of now palin kerranks, ko sta opettels, without miselt of the and propuso by the gusto. Io many parts of the town the hare bo glad to learn at the Memorialista could equthoir as those landing in California, with biter pay, them, and as to the chugs we could not fognize, of 873,00, and the tatal cost is $128,700. And, institution, are bio most salutary to the axistence of been additional hydrats put up lately, and the way to conformist to the cementially on my of judging by appearances, to yield much to it is so he hoped that this persistent interference they bore uo addresses and many of that would again, the same questions apply to it to the arimaale, severity work and possible comfort auch supply is better than was, but the intermittent les consuming space be the atmost, admite Rassia, and the feeling between the two of the British Governant will cease; damaging we are under the impression be very difficult of first solime with gard to the price of the feature that is one or sportion of the supply of water mustalways be bad. Some people of a certain amount of Eght and ventilatioui turongh

Hack England in civilizing eren in her prisone se it does most recenly, the interests of a identideation as genuino shop soals or chope. As the land, which is hare valued roughly at ftore is always i

something to be learned in its gets susientsupply, others do not. It renstly the wall, quses space. left at the back onade countries is anything but cordial. Matna! friendly nation, and lac depriving the British by far the largest land and property owners in $50,000. There remains only one other alternado to certabmeats of Great Britain; anch in the to the inhabitants. They have to carry to a holas, self-interest will, however, doubtless prompt markets of considerable quantities of sugar and the golbay we have to say that we entirely agreed tivo to le considered, and that is the secation of toption which, sorry with me of my visit to the considerable distance, and many of them, ander. I would call your attention to that last line again. both to concede somewhat, s neither is really cotton, which otherwise vroull be produced with the resolations of the public meeting hold au uting new geo un same other site. The gud of the British Colony Blond, suffer grievously from the want of an of. It is a curions commentary upon all the air tho on the Cricket Ground, more especially the last cost of that is put down at $159,900. This ro. Such was the impression stated by the Governor ficient water supply. Then, if we come to consider criminal olasses are deemed to require. I think. spite of the bluster showz-tutions to fight The following itemsere taken from the London rasointion, but we do not approve of deportations presents the cost of a lemotore with 500 separate of Macao. Well, the opinion of the Governor of the state of our markets, I think we shall come Sir, there are the names in this memorial of some the other. It would be very inconvenientfo: [ad China Wepraez of the 11th altimo

we would have facerrigible criminals inefficeably calls which may be built either at Stonecutters Maou in 1866 has been the opinion I have heard the conclusion that if the Colony has nimey to of the gentlens spcpected with the Tung Bussia to become embroiled, with China is Mr. Robert Fart, who has been on a Contines-all not be likely to retum, Ussibly some. From the total cost of $183200 is dednoted, in bute on our cael. I have heard but our them than sitter is extending the guol or build would be a snáit to Honghong. A gentle branded and then transported to some plasen konce Island or an any other lowol site on this side expressed by any visitors to this Colony who spend it would be better to spend it in improving Web Hospital. That insultation, it was hope, tal tour, has estarned to London, vid Paris. Central Asia just now, and China cannot pos

arrangements might be ecine to with the coal accordance with the recommendation of the opicion nu this subject. Only the other day I ing an antecessary and I believe unimreally man will quailed to form an opinion of it, M. Bobert Hart, fro Peking, sput several mining authorities of the North of Formosa to: Secretary of State, the sum of 350100, proceeds mentioned to a gentleman who had gone through condemned her one. These three points, the aus who not wry long ugo visited it, when I sibly afford to enter upon such a ruggie reeks in Austria, is the vetering places of take the breaded oriminole per a constration of the ale of the present gnol and site. That the geol that there was a project to ele e to and shaitation of Viatoria, which of course ineludos fagnired of him what his opinion was, wed to Still the differo botwin them are Karlsbad and Techl This High Chinese fans which would be ringk less than keeping them in estimates $50,000 for the land is rarhaps law, nice the salon Simeoutters Jaland blint drainage, water supply, and I believe I may into silent, he did not wish to stpryss, plat he felt. serious that His Excellency the apologist for tionary met with a very sympathelle voocption gaol here, and this arrangement would prevent but it it lased on the musestla of adnexamenit as was boudit auflicient in accommodation, clude murkata, ure in themselves.so, for more Im. Had he done so I was given to understand the the Tientsin massacre will find his work in Austria offofal circles, where good feelings to spreading their intimate knowledge of the the item that appears on the opposite side for that the air we tou oufined in the cells, portant than the good question that I think I expression would have been that it was utterly. towards China were seriously sapressed, obiofly. Celong and its criminal lacots amongst their the cost of land, and it wifi ben quastion to con- there was not spice buong for the pricomore was justified by outing to your Excellonoy whom abominable. That, Sir in the state of one of the cut out for him when he arrives at the Czar's in the Fareiga Department, that highly appre friends on the mainlaud,

Reider, whether that project recommends itself, He did not belove I was in sarnest He said we had that conversation that I beliefed the institutione in Hongkong) capital,

ciates Mr. Hart's onlightosed views, The, In Ax taxpayers we think too mnoha meney ba In ponosion. I would onll your Excellency's at. It cannot be you are joking. It is im community of Lougkeng would be intantly dis. H EXCELLENCY-The fact is, gentlemen, spostor-General of the Chinese Custom-hotspa slready been spent on the gaol and objen to any tuation wakurthalternative, which isnot mooted peasible surely that each an idea has satisfied if the gaol at Stovepotter's land were I don't intent to follow at all my hon. friend to had the honour of big racired by Archduke farther extension. Wehese gone into palestations in Sir Micliael Hanks Bosola's dispatch. It is bean broached n the Colony or at home. It undertaken and the work, executed. There is day, but will have to other man hers of Council Amongst the greatest obstacles in China to Charles Lou, the elder of the Emperor's nod find that the present gaol, might be made to that of a propose-uztension of the present should be the duty of these authority to inform another matter which I beg to call attebllon to the task of discussing the question which we ate the constraction of new roads or railways are brothers, and wine as the Protector of the Orion hold nestly, two thousand prisoners, each one in prem fece. My instructions from your reallasey correctly the Colonial Ofloo. I think it is the as being one also that has been presné to get to consider that of gaol extension. My bou the graves that are everyüberu dotted over tat Museum, is known for the great interest he & cell seven feet by four or Ave which is quite were to mine this question exhaustivelyodaionofeveryone who has gone through the gant my mind for a long time as more deserving friend complaid at the last meeting of Council and, hoverez favourable or unfavourable such an' The corridors and ceila are in summer the cost of attention than the Gad Tallude to the Cons that I had brought forward the question without the country. It has been said by a writer on takes in stern affels Mr. Hart ja said to be large enough for a folen: We ut voirs, &

highly: Hattered by the kind reception the ilia.

BEVERAL CHINESE, extension might be, to luclado if in the compere- and best vastiked places in the Colony. Thavitral School The Central Bahnul, I beliste, posy viving any spice to the Council, bet lu' foot at: Chips, not without a god deal of truth, strious Frines honoured him with.

tire sluton aid therefore it appears in thoại, | han froganat in it, and I must admit I have seen the contents of thin community. It in the preceding posting I had informed the Coung

Thursday Friday semes Sanday

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$25

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2,040

Now these tatila, although your Memorialsta ára

the Governant with a topographical doserip of good trantmont alford-by the Government of the rendering of the term Wangelifely tain it. fi a moment Proseeding to the loster enjoyed in their lies, it is a sort of paindi there, and are being generated by a perziojas and would be placed on in a gaoi at home. N

Hongkong, November 18th, 1878,

This Memoris, which relates to the structure of

uf Hongkong, in foot if is angdon by thund"

dwelling comtros hoth to Canton and Howke, and