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An error was made in the report ofile onae of Tanpa-ming. Chang-sing-fook, in the Summary Court, in saying that the captain of the Coelia wae sued in oonnection with the case. It appears that i was sous other vessel which was alluded to.

well.

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Lugual 19th,

Present:

FLE. the GOTERNOL Hon. J.SMALE, Chibi-Justice! Hon. C. C SMITH, Acting Colonial Secretary. Han, J.PACESOM, Åtiorney-General. Hon, C. MAT, Acting Colunist Tremurer. Hon, W. H. ALEXINDER.

Hon. P. RTRIE,

TIN DALY

cat was spent, in litigation, all of which might have been saved.

The ArroNKI-GENERAL-All this is quite out of order. We are here to decide whether Crusel sbond take fece; not to question the decisions of the Dotri

The CHIEF JUSTIOS-That is not exactly so; he gets big as

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SDAY, AUGUST 21st. La18.

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SUPREME COURT. August 20th

POLICE INTELLIGENCE. Auguel 20th,

Barca F. W. Mcmural, Esq.

A BAID ON GAMBIER AT PO-TZE. Inspector Stroud, with three Chinese wate

A DOG CARE.

macy Jurisdiction Court, for allowing a faro. dious dog to be at large, which bit- hip on the right arm and right se cf his cheat.

omplaint stated that at 8 8., on the 2018 instant, the defendant's dog chased his raster'a sen Chinese dog, and he drove it away. The defendant's dog then turned on him, and hit his arm and aide. He intel nies jacket on at the time, and he got a lumbos to drive the dog away, but the defendant sauro und took the bamboo away.

To Mr. Holmes, complainant said he dió not strike the dog first. The dog was in the habit of biting Clincse dogs. The dog is generally fastened up by a strong chain. He never sow the dog to bile people, before.

plicated, coally, dilatory, legal eyelom, invented the rich alike. It is opposed to protect the advoontes of the Supreme Quart in this Colony, public without effecting an amalgamation of foring under what I helings to he a most com rich man in bis possessions, and the poor man shall be permitted to take badiness from the two branches of the legal profession."

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL added-With ra by the ingenuity of man. I shall be very gind. in his rights. In Hongkong, I deny that the ollenta peronally without the intercation law doca either. The man of limited means of Attorneys, in all cases except those in which goal to amalgamation, with barciators doing to sen the postpound 58 of civil procesiace BEFORE THE HON, CHIEF JUSTICE SMALL

MONEY 6, O'TOOLE darei ant go to fax, bcose be la frightened litigation has been actually commenced in t be attorneye" work, I think it demoralizes the before the Conseil again, because the now Ocdu

Adjourned Summary ·Dvink." by theerpenes; the rich tonn prefers to let the Supreme Court, and that at the aurlint un legal profession. The attorneys, enated from, will introduce alterations iu the coninot of sus in dispate go, rather than from interinis venient opportunity the Government of this their legitimate business, will mok other things, suits which will greatly simplify matters

The defendous in this estragreed to accept able proceedings, kad perkapu pay more to the Colony shall adopt such means as may be because otherwise they will not be able to live, I honourable members and the public

Watehall before long have members of the pra would read well what is contains, I believe judgment agaitet him for the umovat clained. Mr. Hayilor, for the pinintil, stated it was 11IL legal profession than the aumitat amonate nenessary to that end to True, it may be answered that if on are I may add that the words, "take bakiness," fession with sign boarda up, such as "A. 10. it will rumore many of the just complainta- very poor they may sue in forma pauper, bent are nead by me expressly with the intention of barristers, solicitors, contractare, house agents, bought forward with reference to the subjest likely the judgment would be noted ago; what

fine Wallsond coal-ships supplied "bey of atalgamation. I did not understand, nor do his client wanted was somo security: daring my experience in Hongkong, I know making ther sense oo wide as possible.

The Hon, ft KYRIE mid that, though be did world, in fuet, entor mereantile business. There I now understand, the honorable memher to-in. of only ons onse of this, and, therefore, this onewer can scarssly be considered any uren not agree with everything which the ban. dan be no doubt tout if we had amalgama tend to go that teigth; 3 did not understand ment. Cheap law, I do not bellere in, I de member bad just said, be lolt it his duty to sesion it would be derogatory to the profes. that motobants went to the length, and I have Bios, nad rob it of its dignity. I think no hesitation myself, I have seen the 'system not think law o ba got cheaply, as thosecond the mction

Tho ATTORALT-GENERAL then said-Iwieb it would do a great deal more harm in at work, and I have no hesitation in aying who devote tb sir lives to the sindy monst be

would do good in can endorso all that the Obíof Justico Ima said. romnnerated. I du not grudge fair payment to addrosas few words to the Council on the this direction, than A professional man is fairly entitled to get his subject of the very important motion. Iam glad the reduction of solicitors bills ant it Under that stetem, Ilave seen iniquities com fee for his work, if is be well done. The that the honorable member who seconded the world ranit in a great many people being at uitted thas would diegre either branch of opinion he gives in five minutes may be the motion did not endorse the whole of Mr.tracted to thees parts to gain money, who have the profession much temptation as it holds realt of long year of Rudy, and he deserves Rowett's remarks, and stated he did not agree no bort of delicacy. The money questich out to either transh I think is fraught with police constables. Nos. 310 336, and 449, and to he paid for it. But I do aljest that every with all that fell from him. I shall refrain from affects this matter a great deal. The remedy darrer, and I believe if it were adapted you even other scompanied by Inspector Bat would and that amalgamation is syvenimous ten, made a raid on the gruallors turned trißing one that goen into Court should be following the bonorable member in all his ar of the evil complained of by the community is baggled over, and that the client slauld at lest gumenta, and capecially the intempente man some modification in the exiting system, but with corruption. I hope it will never bandopted out of Chinese Kowloon city, why have established themselves between. Too-kawan The Hon. My. Rower mid he wished to re-and that sily, just half-male, within the get a solicitor's Lill enough to frighten any ner in which he attacked the attorneys and the ant returning to amalgamation, which has been here. one-interviews with barristers, barristere Chief Justice. With regard to the attorneys, I do for good reasons abandoned.

J. RYRIs bere explained that wbst be meat more a wrong impression which had apparently boundary, but from the difficulty of getting opiniais, talks with you, and waiting on not know the manner in which they make their

nt the gamblers' stronghold, a well eclected you with the very nocount-everything iron billa of coste, but from what I have beint. there by hir remarks on reconding the sition, was been produced by some remarks be bad made.

The Acting COLONIAL SECEXTART pointed by them, only three of the numerous gamblan out that he could now only reply on anything were appreheaded, whilst numbers got-away. ginable and unimaginable is charged for appear to be-complaints, but it does not follow that he agreed with the motion itself, though not It has been suggested that tho solicitors that they are wall founded, as the bills can be with all the argamente.

X, JAS. WHITTA ZL Quid that be felt called that arose out of the amendment; but after Inspector Stroud stated that since the gun. bills are open to taxation. This is no doubt taxed at any moment. It is not right for the true, but I need not ask your Excellency whe public to any "We won't tax the bills, but we upon to scound the amendment of the At some discussion, it was desided by cond speaking honser at the Chinese village of Sam-au ther any prafent man who thinks be sony ever will-up-set the anciens custom, sad tam the toy-General, as he thought that amalgama on the remarke which were made in support of pop, and thoas at the Chines city of Kowloon,

had been ordered to be stören, the gamblers- have soother cras in court, would venture upon barristers isto attorneys," instead of making the ment was not proposed, and bad he fara, i the amendment..

Mr. Rower then said that it had been had established themselves near the village of. such proceeding. If a bill of 84,000 or $5.000 attorneys end their bill, and have the bargined that it was intended in the letter, be:

would not hare signed" it Uader that sya-suggested that attorneys would be driven to Too-kn-wan, on the side nearest the city The property of Mces. Bell, Puxdon & Co., were sent in to him, for work only worth $1,000 ristera add to it the foes of Sounecl. Bila aas

Pois impossible for put up to auction yesterday, was sold to Mr. or $3,000, and he took it to the Court and got now be sent for this purpose to Mr. Aksander, tem in former days, bills were much larger improper moan of livelihood if the measure of Kowloon, and it

uniform, to get maur that, or Uhinese co O. P. Chater, for the must of $16,000: This in 12 axed down, it is not likely that solicitors sad the matter stande better than inderthe pro- than they are now, and when the barristers was passed. This, he thought, was certainly Eupen galice, citter in out of dicates a heavy fall in the value of property, would ever work willingly for him again. I posed change, as with regard to the question of attempted solicitors work, they had so much unfair to the attorneys

The ATTORNEY GENERAL Guid he did not re-stable of the land force stationed at Kon seeing that the lot in question was bought, tene west to une of the firme again, I suppose be the taration of costs, the laws here are even to do that they left it to Fortugnese clerks, years ago for $52,000.

would not get the work done cheerfully or well, stronger than at home. When the existing and thus often, when a deed came to be fer to the attorneys in the place. Mr. Rowett toon, who are well known. Ther can be awes The monopoly is too close, and the solicitors too scales of esta were originally fixed, they were locked into, it was found not to be worth the must not inagino that we would almys "bare at a distant of 200 yards, but to get near then

is a matter almost of impossibility, so they ap few for anyone to rentare to get a bill taxed. made without any reference to the different merite paper it was written upon, while they tank are the same lawyers hara as at present,

Mr. ROWETToontiuned his reply. Hoid with pear to have a tumor erowd of watchmea At home, a different state of things entirely of cases here, and thone at home. Man oinnot be to send in a bill of sburgge five times more than

any attorney would think of doing. While, respect to the remarks that those who signed on the look out, and they only socuseded by plats. There, there are thousands of solicitori, expected to work for facs which in many cases

however, he was opposed, for these reasons, to the letter did not understand its drill, that it throw unknown Chinese constables, Nox. 91o, so that if a man quarrele with one there are are less then in England. If such were done, plenty more willing to do the work. I do the nolisitors would any: We cannot ire algamation, bo would be glad to see some was popanied by the wolution, and it was 336, and 949in arresting the three gamblers in

thing done to prevent unnecessary charges on scarcely likely that those who signed it would court. Hot say that any solicitor would openly any we only paid these corte," and it thus bap

the part of solicitors.

out their sigasture to a document of which Inspector Butten stated his evidence weald that be would wol do work for so and so, but pened that the practice has been to charge

The Hon. Mr.ALEXANDER Kid that at the last they did not approve.

only bea duruboration of Inspector Stroud's, The partorvance of the Lewis' Drant where so few Gras exist, he would be awayed by according to another sale. The community

meeting of the Council he had endorsed the Hon. Mr. WHITTA-I did (laughter.) adding that it would bare been viseless to fuva Coinpang on Tuesday right, was for the joint ansha consideration. As to the enormity of paid these bills, and now the honourablo men.

Hon. Mr. RowET. -Well, with the excep-seat any of his Obinese land force, as they wed benefit of Mr. and Mr. Taylor. The pro- the charges, I may refer to the well known bar. se representing them, comes forward and motion of the bos, member; but bad since gramme consisted of theliughable akotol," The case, in which I baliere the first acvour complains. I agree with the honourable mem- rond the printed resolation; which was evidently tion of Mr. Whittall, its scarcely likely it so well know.

was eigned by agy who did not elerated The Obine constables, Non, 312, 338, and Silent Woman," and the drams, "The Ticket seal in to one side amounted to $18,000, and in ber that there could not be a better time to the first step towards algamation, and le

was against analgamation altogether. It did it. Mr. Roweit oontinued to say that it up 349, gave evidence of arresting the three de of Leave Man." In the former there were the other side to about as much, eo that the bare those questions seiled than at present. only three characters, but the horse, which was first trial must bare amounted to about $30,000. What he said about the members of the bar not work well, and be trusted i would never peared to him the opposition to his measure fendants; the first defendant as manager tolerably filled, was keps in roars of laughter The decision was arrived at the case appealed not liking to suppon improvemontar was be again in this Colony, except in the form of was made entirely on the supposition that he of the game known na "To.tze," he being in by Miss Rogera and her wooer, each and all Lome After sany monthe, more than a year certainly ill advised, considering that ataha oodification as that which the Attorney wanted solganation, which was contrary to the set of twisting the three brass "Pote

the fact.

bazas; the second defendant as croupier to the giving their parts well. The band of the Sith in furt, the dna me out totally reversed, and the present time, I and others, all the membara Gateral bad thrown out as a suggestion.

The CHLY-JVSTION said: I-had intended to The ATTOENRY-GENERAL said whatever the game; and the third defendant as one of the Regiment being in attendance, played between it appeared that all this money had been spent of the bar, are exerting curselves to effect iuas=" the two pieces a splendid selection, which was for mathing, absolutely thrown away, so that provements. If the community had in a spirited say untething on the motion, but I feel myself hon. member wanted, the results of the motion gamblers.

The defendants made lime excuses, to the of- enlivened by the bandamen singing "Coupe it world have best far better to have left the manner said with regard to the solicitore billa, 80 porsonally attacked on this occasion that I would be that barristers would be doing busi back to Erin. The drama of The Ticket of claim alone. The unfortunate Banks had to "We will not goou in this mater and will bare think the less I say the better. I cannot, Hees in such a way as to naout to augnafest that they were fruit traders, but having no witnessst, and the charge bong brought up Leave Man" went of with excellent spirit. per 2,000 in ioterea alone. They had exach them tazed," there might have been legislation however, belp'saying this, in which I have action.

The Attorney-Generil's amendment was thoroughly home to them, the first and second Mrs. Dew, as May Edwards, and Mr. Andar-

ed interest at the rate of 18 per cent. fors in the right quarter, but instead of this, the cou doubt some members of the Bur will bear HALL & HOLTZA KEY as Jom Dalton, the "ticket of leare muna," short period, and had to pay that amount. Almunity having gone on for years, now say Weine our, that when amalgamation of the profes. then put to the meeting, and carried by six defendants were sent to three months' bar

gavo their parte very touchingly, and played together about $60,000 bad to be given up by will go back to the old system of analgams- sions was brought about here, it sent bowo to vates to two, madly, the proposar and areouder labour, and the third defendant lo one month's

hird inbour. well. The piece was greatly enlivened by the bankere, and I suppose shout the same tion, which is just as bad in point of expendi-England the beat attorney ever in this lesy, for it and the remaining mezubers against it.

His Exellency the GovEENOR said the Me. J. Taylor, as Mr. Walongbby

ture as that now existing. It is very well for namely, Mr. Parsons. I have always undertood, and Mies. Nye de blat meedlesome, trouble

the tononble member to say that his propost and indeed bad it from his own lipe, that it was next question was how the amendment was to A bonge coolie at Kowloon to Mr. Caldwell, some grindsen of Mr. Sam Willoughby. Mr.

tion does not mean amalgamation, but the so that which sent him home. On this acount, be made, to have force upon the Legal Profes-jun, anamed Mr. Holmes, aloric of the Sam- Herberte, us Bob Brierly, went through his

tion is anoh as most necessarily lead to it. I also, Mr. Stace left this for England, than aion. Hothought, perhaps, the most practical piece with bis usnul good, cool, and careful

will not argue again amigamation, partly whom we never had a better man. We look to step would be to refer to a Ovumittee of the spirit. Mr. Watson, as Hawkshaw, performed

Because I am sure that the statement that the attorneys to give their best mind to the Council.

commencement and the earlier stages of mat- The Cuis Justion suggested tho advis his part excellently, and the cunning Jew,

Mr. ROWETT-I think it is in orden I am there is a great deziu on the part of the Melter Moss, by Mr. J. B. Taylor, was cleverly giving one of the best known casa in this publie for it, is inncourate. All the latter ters, and certainly barristers are not looked to ability of deferring it till the new Code had given. The cold-beariel Gibson, by Mr. A-lory to show the heary charges. Then there intended was, to endorse what was stated by with reference to the business of drawing op bees brought forward. They would prefer not drews, who only too surely represented hin bard, is the one of Cama's bankruptcy. There the as the hunnable member at the last mouling diode for clients in England, and I am quite pre proceeding to other work till this was done.

Mr. Rower asid that it the andout worldly disposition, and was tire more telflug parts were also enormous Thousands upon of Council, and that was that consul should pored to see this if the moon is adopted I * contrasted to the scenes wrought thereby on thonesuds were spent, and the amount showed be able to consult with clients, but there am charged, I think for the first time in my were carried ont in a fair and liberi spirit, it

Now life, with not being a reformer, Before Mr. would practically bo all the latter asked for. the apparently unfortunate May Edwards and that it would simeat have bean better to her was not word about amalgamation

I was ultimately agreed that the matter Jem Dalton. It would be a cold heart indeed left it alone. There is úlso another way in which the honourable gentleman says be wants every Ennett was ever born, I was a reformer, that would not be touched by the parts taken the excessively heavy charges appears as due thing whith would be cbtained by amalgaza and I believe I have always held to the prin. should be taken into ocsideration the moment by the talented Mrs. Lewis and that of Mr. which deserves attention. Since I have been tion, in effect, he states, "I do not want brandyople which I apply to the professiou-the legal the Code bad passed the Council

· ESTIMATES FOR 1874. Gea. Anderson, as the ticket of leave mauhere there have been various proscentions of and water, but will have some water and a little well as any other profession and that is, that

His EXCELLENCY then laid the Estimates for The applause and expressions of the audience the Press for libel I will not say that the brandy. I may point was that at home the any profession which ceases to be of nee to the HAL, & Wolz und Kuzzy evinced thorough appreciation of the piece Preas in Hongkong is at all immaculate; but etiquette of the legal profesion has axiated mopity should cease to be in existence. That, 1874 on the table, observing that the Colonial

A witness damned Len-yee, called by thecom- throughout. On the whole, the actors had it is a well known fact that if the editor or for a length of years, and that there is su doubt conceive, ie the only principle on which I have Secretary would make a few words of explaas- their parts well allotted to them, and excellent rather, the proprietor, as the latter is usually in the minds of the most experienced against ever uated. I have never asked for anything for tion, prior to their being read for the Grab ne plump, give evidence of seeing the bits, but Boo, M. WHITTALZ uggested that is would jį could give an evidence as to whether the com→ ly suited to their talente, and they all played sued for Bibel herba riven offence, and it may a departure from it. There are some who e profession except so far as it was necessary to

the due condunt of public matters. If yoa bave be better that the non-official members should plainst struck the dog first, or the dog kêt be desirable to be "down" so bim, it equis defend the American system, that is, the enough to cause him to have to defend a star solicitors and barrister going into partner on whose honer you can rely implicity, this have an opportunity of pornsing the Estimates the couplanime.

is to the public good so far. Only in one place in first, as otherwise they might not recollect the Mr. Holmes contended in his defence that areinst him for libel, whether a libel may bars ships but there must be a division of pro-

the dog meat have been bontee by the cain- eriated or sot, because to defend his case de bas fessions, and Lord Campbell said it is de. England have Lever board of counsel spoken of remarks.

In this he was followed by Mr. Byric, who plainant before he would have bitten bi to spend a large sum, and be is tline pazished trimentul to the advancement of knowledre of otherwise than with great respect, and there the any way, whether innocent or guilty.

jurisprudence that the two professions should use and his very respetable client came said that it was certainly desirable that this Moreover, complainant came on to bis grounds be merged into,one. It is said that this colony into actual contact. In the year 1902, I was At-plan should be adopted, to enable then memus far as the cook home to do so, and it n

[after having bouten the dog, and was in the not is so anal that such consideratione do not ap-torney, Guneral, sad can speak of things then bers the more really to follow the marks,

from what I saw ungeelf. The public indigestion The Acting COLONIAL SESESTART said that of running off again, that he rau after him nad M ROWET-On the last otension when ply to it, but there is perhaps no colony in

at the state of affairs is probably well indicated although Mr. Ryrie had remarked that there away the bamboo, consequently it was Werogrot to notice that the hopes which were

apske on Chia subject, the Chiel-Justice the world in which there is a greater necessity showed mo the ecbedule of charges in for legal men of high requirements, Tarre now by what has been said as to fees. The fees was not time to pernas the Estilate, he would complainant's own fanli that the dog bit biu. -mised with reference to the termination of

asses befors his Lordship in Bowmary Jata are, it is true, appeals at times to the Privy thar obarged were such as to bring pablic pres- not take two houre over them, but would come The dog had always been fastened up, and was the difficulty with respect Tracsit Daus, by

diction. Now it is well known that that sobe. Council, but if you take up any of the home sure the Government, not in the way of a to the Council and make his remaris as they kept for a wastels do but it bad alipped

memorial, but so that both the Judge and Bir run through them.

rough his collar on this-osession. He did the recoguition at Pekin that the Treaty

dule does not in any way represent the charges papers, you will see that there are also numbers Hercules Robinson, who was the Goveror, bud Mesars. RxRIE and Rower both protested not deny that the dog had attacked the coun danses afforded protection of goods going

which the unfortunate euiter bas to sustain, of appeal from other places. The minutes of the last meeting were read and no one knew that better than-

Hon. Mr. RowETT-I don't mesh in any strong convictions as to the necessity of re-aguinst this remark, the buter asking how the plainant, but he did not know that the dog bad

form. I was making a large income na Attorney speaker would possibly know what non-official biten im till he received a'summons. island, irrespective of ownership, semnul confirmed.

The CHIEF JRTICE-Excuse me

way to complain.

Ocmplainant, on being questioned, said that destined to tein no small degree, disappoint-

The ATTORNEY-GREEFAL--Certainly, I will General, but I felt that the position was false, members would do out of the Council. Mr. ROWETT.-1 say it advleedly. I think

The Acting COLONIAL-SECERTANY protested after having beer bitten by the dog he did not H.E. the GovEDxe laid on the table the chat schedule what the us

confess I did not understand some part of the and I willingly spoke in favor of the destrup.

mean his remarks to apply go to Mr. Elmes and complain about it. ed, from the secount which we recently re-totter (already published) which he had receivel, fortunate mine does not reprint that tester honourable maraber's argument. As I said, there ties of the umpigaustion, of the ovile of which that he did printed from the North China Eaily News, eigned by various members of the Community, costs, but you have to pay costs, which do nnst be appeals to deside whether decisions I was apprised to a degree, on which I should specially to fr. Ryrie, and the latter gentle Mr. Mitouch Why, when you get out the not now like to expatiale The wosure was maz obeerved that, if that was the que, he could anmmons, you said you had got no redress, in regard to the working of the system at with reference to the relative pruitions of har-not appear in the schedule, and it is scarcely are right or wrong. I was engaged in one

Complaint stoutly denied that he over sid Kiukiang, we fund that the Chinese, whose risters and solicitors is the Colony, and called fair to eqdeavour to ebot my mouth by shy of the cases quoted, and it cannot be said passed in silouce. When the abolition of only conclade that he did not understand after going to defends to complain.

pon the Hen. B. Rovett to bring forward the thing which appears there. Another objection by any one that the fees were larger than would amalgamation took place in 1858 no one cared English. The Acting Colonial-Sectory said ingenuity in orasion sens to know no motion on the subject, 1 which he had given to my motion, is that it interferes with the in England be charged by a leading Queen's much about it; it did not become law till he apologised if his remart appeared to have a saything to defendant before getting out the bounds, have ait apon sa expodient. for notice.

vested interests of the attorneys. It interfered Counsel, and I was Attorney-General at 1862 and it was not till 1806 that it was pat personal bearing, and added that if the passing summons, or said anything to that affect to evading the rulo, although it present, accord-I have now to bring forward the motion of a very vague.

The Hon. Mr. Rower than yose and said: I use told, with vested interests. The term the time. In regard to the Cams case, that was into force. When the amalgamation was ended, of the Estimates were delayed, they would not the clerk at the Magial rag.

I do not see that it interferesa moat complicated axir; there were, in fact, thure was not a merchant who was not glad ba bome in time to enable the Secretary of. The Obizase interpreter to the oase, a c'erk. of the change I believe there was State to look through them, and return them in the office stated that when complainant apu ing to the last reading of the treaty, it is so which I gave notice et the last inecting of the with any voted interests whatever, as I see in fourteen ass in the Supreme Court, and you

no one who did not gain advantage by it; in time for the fiaxxoist year. Mr. Whittall plied for the summons, he stated he had been clear that it might be wasiderad beyond Council. When I fire proposed a ohango with reason why any solicitor or attorney should cannot base law cheaply under suck eirelim.

and in this way the attorney always checks observed that the non-offioin! membera aleo to the defendant, and had been told taxt it reference to barristers and their cliente, I have a reabed interest in the misfortunes of stances. Ko doubt, there have been wore com. the power of dispute, that the right of Chi- sporsely saw to what extent the public feeling auther way, who may be dragged into court, plaints about the charges made by solicitors, the barrister's fees. In fact, au u rulo in Eng wanted suficient time for the same purpose, served him right. zase. holders of goods of foreign importation, went upon the subject, but after leaving the willing or unwilling. I think we require some and that is a good subject for reform, by bap and never marked my fea exoept in drnight and Mr. Hyrie added that they had not had The complainant being thus conírvated, ne- which have paid the transit dues, to carry Council on that day, I learnt that there was a solid proof before this ples is allowed.ing taxation. That is the way to grapple with it, ing. This was always done by the atrofner, who sufficient time last year. Ultimately, his Ex-knowledged that he had aid so, but adrilted

much stronger feeling on the matter than I For my own part. I regard it as to arguest but I fail to see that the question of caste and loud between the public and counsel The cellonay decided to adjourn the Council for a tit te had not been to the defendant.

fe. Holmen asið that had complainant somA them into the interior of the country, is not had ever suppcao. That feeling resulted in anti proved clearly, and antisfactorily. Again, exponditure has anysting to do with the spirit moment amalgamation takes place, all this in week.

He EXCELLENCY then sul that as the to him, he would have procured a ductor, and *dealed. The transit passes are duly granted ; the lotter addresavd to the Colonial-Secretary, it was said it would be derogatory to the bocor of the motion before the Council: The honour. gose. The counsel must make his own bur Cosmoil did ant wish to beer the remarke done other things to relieve him.

and gentlemen do not generally estimato their which has been signed by nearly every mer of the profession if barristers received foes able member spoke of a case having lasted five

The complainant ses then placed in the or application, and so far as external grant and bassiker in this place. Il night leveret clients into con the street test or one tag, but with Obiness witnessca, sarvices nt less than is done by the public. The of the Colozial-Secretary, he might mention pearance go.everything appears in perfect ban sigued by a mad greater number of peo home, but these matters have been handed states must last longer bore than at home, consequence in then, in goes the charge, and the only general thing tonotice in them war, bat dock, and old he would be dealt with a

as the day't caacs were faished, and tho m crder. A difference is, however, made be-pie, it there had been cure time, but it was down to os from times to which we would and as 30 some remarks which he made when there is a debt of honour, it cannot be ou passing the Estimates last year, the amount

at the conclusion of the day's business,com. tween theory and practice, as while on the supposed thou that this meeting would have surely like to go back. The spirit of the age onoerbing intemperate language in Court, this gurrelled about. By the present system the for the police was considered excessive. The more was dismissed.

been earlier, and it was expedient to end in the is that of reform, but I am sorry to say there was more likely to be the case when the barris public can, but will not, tax attorneys bille. Coansil voted the sum, and the Executive agreed one hand every formality is complied with, on letter as 2000 as possible. I can state, by the line been very little desire to reform on the ter was instracted by his client than by a more huge fault is that? If every merchent did it should not be excardel. They hadsafar kept plainant was fined $19, or 1 days' imprison,

the same, and asid, "I will pay 20 per faith; that they had not reneled the amoun, nent, for telling falsehoods in Court.

KIYIN APPING. the other hand, every dificulty is thrown ablic, that it was not sent round by anyone sins, who have been generally opposed to re. time case take it is likely that they will cent, above the taxation, the, attorneys would and the Colony was hee from griure. The

way in which that Etter was got up by the part of the great majority of the legal profas calm and aroful soliciter. In respect, too, to the the way. The Chinaman who arrives at a bere, and that the signatures bad not been form.

Chna--, mistress of brothel No. 36, iz No doubt there have been noble last longer if a barrister conduct them alone, bo formed to do their daty, because they present stimates showed a reduction under that would not get on without the sapport of the item, which was formerly very large. Hie Er-

Square-street, was charged by Jospector King, larrier with bis goods and his transit pas, conted for, or the paper carried round u say exceptions Among thicin, who bare cars and there in only, one can matend of two.

Mr. ROWEST-I do not sek to introduce merchants. I am sure from my experience, cellency thought it was just to draw the atten- finds himself hampered by so much routine, way. This being the ease, I of course, feel my ried reforms, but the general spirit of new-

which in matters of procedure extends over a tion of members to this, while they were read. with unlawfully detaining a girl named Hoset. lan, an inmate of the brothel, with the intention and so much troublesome formality, which itself auch more justified in bringing forward bers of the profusion has been against reform, barristers alone into the Supreme Court.

the proposition of which I gave notion, and and they prefer to adhere to old customs and ATTORNEY-GENERAL Certainly, that is ag series of yeare, that it is on account of a ing through the Estimates.

The ordinance was then read for the first of taking her to Macas. He also ebarged Long- choa-yos in inmate of the brothel, with uiding China, invariably means the necessity for I think I should arsely conceal from your to forms which have existed for ages. In a true, I will come to that by and by. I think faalt on the part of the public if the division of

and abetting the first defendant, LAWS OF PROPERTY. using a considerable amount of what is known Excellency. Bat I hate discovered to be the Colcay like this, there is zu repson why we the motion ought to be limited to intro- the profcenione docs uct toad to their book ad time.

This ordinance, which is designed to as- feeling on the part of the public as to the should be burdened with an incubus of this duce a new scale of taxation; if oliente pay age: and I am sure if we wish to 38 palm oil, that after all it becomes more change which should take place with regard to kind, which will cost thousands, aules there according to the scale of taxation there would maintain proper self-respect, we cannot do so convenient for him to waive his privileges, the legal profession. At present, though is some good reason fur doing so. All that has not be the disputes which arise in fancy without keeping counsel fron coming into con. simulate the laws relative to leasehold property and to conduct his business on the Chinese may perhaps seen asenbat hard to say so, kere to be considered in, the advantage of re-scales, such as resulted from the aclicitors not with clients of low tone, and that it is here, with the latest law at home, was inid on

better to separate every class than lower the the table, and read for the first time.

The Connell then adjourned to Tuesday next I think it can scarcely be denied, the pro- ideata. I do not think there is any reason for not having enough under the original sosle. system in comparative peace. By this simple ression of the law is a cuopoly of two or the etiquette gick prevents barristers from. I will mad from an important judgment tour of those who go into Court, if they do

their duty, themselves the ministers of Jaatise, at 2,30 p.ni. manoeuvre, the recognition formally made at three fires in this plane, who by means of this receiving fees from clients. The hands of of Lord Campbell's I believe that the in. Pekin of the right of Chinese owners of nanopoly, acrew mosterorbiteas obarges out of client are as clean as those of an attorney.tervention of the attomay between the corn. and who may themselves bo bead of the Court. The first members of the medial profession do aa) and the party has greatly contributed This is the duty of a barrister, and whoever tite anfurtzoate people who have to seek re- breign goods to take them to interior marts, drose, or, to defend themselves at huw. This not refoam to receive their guinea, from be not only to the diggity of the Bar, bat deviates from that line hne loeu weight with the Court. I have at home ofton known a Judge or payment of the transis dues, is randend has been a subject of complaint for years. Fans of patients, although perhape tained to the improvement of Tagliab ani prase-ask to see a book, and it was known pretty well od by the Hon. P. Brie to the Asting Olsap to the joss-house, to the private bonse,

Formerly, perhaps, charges were greater than with some disease. There is, therefore, no Nor can that bigbly honourable and 86- practically of none effect. Indeed, in coenow, but that was miss there were very few reason is this objection, Another point made ful brane of the Profession, the attorney, bet shy. Something was said about Tong cases, | respect, the present sydens places foreign nil-Secretary, on the limited time granted to end there uiet the complainant, who at first trade at less advantage than it was at before. amalgamation principle thea exiated is no fession. I do not think that if the penal forany class of mon to perform any of the man in this Colony more deeply regrets the non-official members for the consideration but afterwards admitted she was intended to Under the old system, in a sort of rough and proof that it is in itself andatisfactory, as to-day rules of etiquette ware relaxed, barrister function which properly belong to au atior- the length of ones than I do, but we are of the Estimates, has been banded to us for be taken to Magus

ibs obarges are proportionately worse, as it is would become unworthy of his position or be ney". It would be thus penishable for any obliged to hear with it, and I feel that what

revent trial was very publication

Ho-speko, declared, stated she was an in- tutable manner by dint at times of per- well-known people are less able to pay. Money less geuleuan; that he would become a class of men to perform say of the functions was suid regarding a

HONGKONG,20th August, 1873. mate of bratbel No. 18, Sqnire-street. Ou suasion, at others of coercion, by soothing this in Lurd to get, and cannot be so readily spent. potty-fogger and ran after clients. I think which properly belong to the attorneys, and severe, as I bud a serious illness in consequence

Bia-I shall feel abged by your informing the 4th February last the borrowed 880 from At that time the meritre paid himself the public is always able to guage, the calibre if we had barristers to encroach upon the of it. Bat I see no reason to regret it when I

see the results of that trial. The amount was the if any new regulations regarding Colonial the first defendant, and in consideration she an and bullying that—the foder or a liberally, and acted at the same time and of ven with whom they bars to deal. The legitmate fanctions of attorneys, it will be bat the lengthícat casa. but one here; re- Estimates have been issued, since those publish. became a prostitute to her, and remained there

whole ordi Chinese representativa did manage to some counsel and solicitor, but I think the charges people who pay are generally be best judges impossible to do so exceps by extent to bring his goods to the markets in were the fault of the individual rather than of what they buy, and in this way be on- nunce. If a mong does things which are in cited in the trial of the parties for conspiracy, od in the Colonial 05ce List for 189. This till this date. On the morning of the 1916 the principle. I do not now wish to advocate tent to abide by the well known role of cerme the province of an attorney only, la randown which could not otherwise have been brought work is, I understand, published with the satho the first defendant aid she wanted her to Nektů ker to `secompany bar to the interior of the country, without paying amalgamation, bor. I notice it has been stated emptor. If a man wishes for an opiatur, he himself liable to une under local andis shout. As to the question of appeals, Ibeliovo rity and permission of H. M. ricretary of State, go to Lan, to becules à prostitute there, Registrar-General's office, and ahe wach beyond the transit due stipulated in the recently in one of the public prints, and by a should be able to judge for himself, and pre-anco, as well as under the Imperial Law. they are not more numerous here than elsewhere and in it dad, at page 171 action 350, the toi. an few individuals interested in this matter, that sent himself to the harrister from whom he For the bonorable medber, therefore, to any he The interests are often enormnons. As to the lowing:"In the Colonies not possessing Repres the irregular manner, the right conceded was at the Auganation Ordinance was repealed here wishes the opinion. I think the dignity of the wishes "all business" is the larga sense of the case, it was known that I decided as I did.sentative Assemblies, the Governor should sub. agreed. They then left and on the road mit to the Council of his Government, before called at a house, where the first defendant in consequence of a general desire on the part profession will be such beller guarded by word, in way, "I wish barristers tod attorneys' because bad I done otherwise, another case tained. But the peculiar working of the system of the public. Now, 1 happened to be here at their avoiding the unpleasant altercations which work," that in, in other words, amalgamation, would at oned have been brought With rd the expiration of the month of June in each out her, and said they would stop the at present in force, is to exclude the foreigner that time, and not only bavo po recollection of have so often taken place in the Courts of thin which is outtrary to law, and we miss bave adspect to allowing the barristers to appear in year, at an estimate as he may think neces sight. That night the first defendant wanted the Police and Bummary Jurisdiction Court, sary of the whole expedicure not already fixed her to die her hair and go to the brothel. zey such thing, bat emphatically deny that Colony between the Bench and the Bar, wast- ordinense so empower the barrister to do so. altogether, by enabling a certain number of anything of the kind took plser. The public in valuable las print for by clients in That being so, I wish to suy a few words you will now be giving to barristers the lowest or the sunotion of tler, Majvely's Gietern Next mersing she was leaving the house, when wore absolutely silent. The public then, 44 disputations which appear to the public with regard to how far I think modification class of business. They must see lor men, ment, which is intended to be charged upon the she met the inspector at the joss-bouse. She ibieves, robbers, and others personally: As to Colonial revenue for the year than next ensuing, did not know what charge to profer against the put in fores, 1 proposa - the goods inland. A little concession from now, wore in a terrible mass, and were at the to have little more in them thau per-should be

mercy of two or three individul, who squeezed coality. What I walk for now, and what I amendment under walch I would suggest be Samary Const cases, they maat be taken und Le should transmit to the Secretary, of first defordant. The sound defendant, ale bs- time to time to the natives carrying goods them to any extent, and the public thought believe, it is only just, to art for, is that that a committee should be appointed, to by somebody, but they are scarcely the best. State, by the earliset opportunity; the Ordi- lieved, had gone to the Registrar-General's ioland, will be quile suficient to exclude the that the change would be probably for the the public should be allowed to comalt barris hear all sides, and to report as to the mode It certainly seems strange to me that people nanoca providing for the service of that year." offer, and represented borealf as the complain- If the above regulation is still in force, I begant, to get bar pace elruck off the list, The better, and left it alone. I challenge anyone tere without the intervention of attorneys, and in which we should carry out their raggestion.should have chosen the very things which are

that you will intimate to His Excellency the case was than remanded for further enquiries. foreigner doing the like for the time toing to prove in any way that the poblidusked for that consultation should extend also to the We should then kasr whether an ordinance Injurions to barristers. Isball for these rea

A POLICEMAN EXCEEDING HAS DETI. This accomplished, it is easy to again put on Governor that it is my intention to proteus

The cam in which P.0. MaKay was charged the restrictions on the Chinese owners think i'argument will scarcely hold ground. client may desire to have made out; and farther, land. Barristers are no doubt permitted to ber that I au bound by the decision in this against the manner in which the Estimates ara

The subject of the opinion of the public with ask that the barrister should ko parmitted to practice in the Conny Conris, and to defend Council, whichever way it goes, an 1 ehzuld be in ny opinion) proped to be hurriedly forced with exceeding his daty, same on again yester of goods, and thus, by a little.clever man regard the legal profession, catt sourcely be appear for alicats without the intervention of criminals, and I think that in regard to small unworthy of my office if I failed, whether through the Council, Suid proteit to be for day, and Mr. Stephens, of Messrs. Franels and mant, to deprive both nature and foreigners touched upon without mentioning the auealia- attorney in the Police Court and in the San-cases it might not be recessary for elicitors to agree with the law or not, to carry it out as far warded to Her Majesty's Secretary of Stato. of the privilege which was conceded. fuotory was in which the public feel that mary Court. I believe this is only reasonable send them to connsel; but to draw by a power of possible. The matter whaold have the arch

! Justice is administered. The public feet and just If any one reason can be ahorn attorney, or perform such matters as ave really ng consideration of a Committee to decide they may be, who are paid by the Colony, eat This state of things is not unfamiliar in the speak for myself, and represent the opinious į to the contrary, I ball not be unwilling to attorneys work, should not be allowed, and it on the beat way to carry out the object which bandaowaly too, for preparing these Estimatore a doctor'a certifieste, ug the defendast was

have taken so long a time to think over and China trade, and undoubtedly wears a very of many-tbut cases are often very unasess give way to its bot I think no good reason could not be expected that a proposition to that is in view.

The ATTORNEY-GENEDAL Ugid he had for

prepare thes, I consider it most unfair that Mr. Stephone said he was about to an for a discouraging sppearance. It is, however, notarily prolonged. This is to the advantage of can be given. I believe it would be to the effoot would be put before the Curnoil. The

non-official members, who have their own busi-remand mito, we under the consideration of the Committee,ness to attend to, should only be allowed uns The car was accordingly-femanded to fun- altogether without remedy, and that remedy those who get Leary fee for appearing in Court, general satisfaction of the community that we amendunt, which is as follows, was then put gotten to mention that the question of goats

and thousands of dolls are often spent over should have free trade in law. We have free to the mooting baying regard to the expres- sitting on the now Code..

week for the consideration of a matter of day net. cases which might be settled for as many an- trade is everything else, and. I think should

His EXCELLENCY-Before putting this mo- such importance.

MONEY 201GREY. redu. Recently a cash went on for eight days have it in law too. People are allowed to choosssion of opinion contained in a letter recently

I have the bonor to be, sir, 2

A Prurien eeatin residing in a boarding- that of the Official Assignes v. NgOliaping their own donter, and I do rot see why they addressed to the Government by a large proportion. I would wish to say a few words, as I am

Your, most obedient serviet,

buase in Tauk-liny, named Assis, charged a in it become before long the supporters of the The matter might have been a very involved, should not go to a barrister, but should have to tion of the mercantile community, are of indiupseed that an important question of this.

P. RYRIE.

Obiaceo fynist of the establishment bi aus- foreigners' right, and as the trade increases in one, but it seemed to the public that it was pay twice, I do not imagine that double ad opinion that it is expedient to modify to a cer. kind should go by a purely silent vote. I

The Hoperable Q U. SMITH,.

picion of hiring robbed his box of 53 in paper, magnitude, an easbled form sufficiently at a difficult a case, and a remark was unde Tartage is gained. You got a solicitor, who tain extent the rules of the legal profession, sympathise to the unpost with the honourable

Acting Colonial Secretars

Hold and silver, the key of his chest being by the learned Judge that long eusis were bepprhaps does not himself anderstand the can, which restrict barristers from giving consulta ember who proposed the motion. I had once,

Found in defendant's or at the evidence powerful combinations to bring premar◊ to cuming the fashion. Now, I think it would be and does not fully represent it to the barrister. tions and opinions, and transmoting other buai. and only once, an attorney's bill, and I hope 1

The Atheneum states that the Japanese news went strongly against a' Chinese doctor, who bear upon their officials, and to cause them a very sorry fashion 1 might be a very think that wish these remarks I may consledeness in certain cases, without the intervention shall never have one again, as it has made a last

of an attorney, but thas saah modifications ng impression upon me, and is one of those paper in London, the Tai set Bhimbaus, bows in altendance on the boarding-water's to reduce the taxation of the goods to some-jocular thing for those who got fees ont of it, by moving :-

bnt a very sorry this for the man who has to That for the convenience, and in the in should be expressly defined and Himited, things I am least likely to forget. There are no now the eafeguard of a clerical editor, having wife, and the case was remanded to this day, thing like a reasonable compass. In order, my thusu fere. By a pleasant fotions, the terest of the public, it is desirable that all in such way as may be deemed advisable, so as doubt great grounds for complaint, but the evil the benefit of the contributions of the first with a view of houting up, the ductor, who has

We are suf- Buddhist priest who has resided ja õadon. waddenly absconded. however, that the result may be obtained, it ! law in supposed to be made for the poor and Barristers at Law admitted to practise as to meet the reasonable requirements, of the is not referred to the right cause.

treaty. To this extent, though in somewhat

Chinese to compete with him in conveying

is to be found to a great extent in the work

ing of the trade itself. The Chinese interested

Hon. J. WRITTALL

Hon. RowETT.

BARRISTERS AND SOLICITORS.

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"The Council,

THE ESTIMATES.

The following letter, which has been address.

4

Inspeater King stated from information be received he went to the brothel, and from fire formation he received was true, and the girl Ho- other girls in the brothel be found that the in-

she would be taken to Macao. The girls in the | Bett-lan wasiaker ton private house, from whanto house aid they were all the property of the Arst defendant, and that she had asked them to. go to Mato with her, she had a brothol there. hey did not want to go to www. At 10 th on the 90th instant he went

denied the fact that she was going to use,

In view of the fact that the offers, whoever Sphene, appeared for the defendant.

Inspector Gair asked for a remand, to pro

unwell.