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        "document_key": "CO129-461 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [5-7]",
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        "title": "CO129-461 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [5-7]",
        "content_text": "Colonial Office\n\nIn the opinion of the Legal adviser to this Dept. it will be quite sufficient if notification of a claim is sent to the Local Clearing Office up to 12 July 1912 (the official date of the Establishment of the Central Clearing Office is 12 January 1920) this making no distinction between the Central & Local Offices.\n\nIf it is considered desirable to encourage claimants to delay lodging their claims but in cases where difficulties of obtaining full details relating to are anticipated, in order that the fact that a claim exists may be made known, it has been the practice at the Central Clearing Office to instruct claimants to lodge a provisional claim which can be fully substantiated later. It is always, however, carefully pointed out that such advice is not \"official\".\n\nMr. E. J. Harding has seen this file and does not think our Chatham arguments altogether convincing. In paras. 11-14 of the AAOC \"Cleaning Office\" must have had in view the local offices, but those paras. & refer to matters affecting both the British & the German Officer & reference committees, local offices relations with the Kommandantur Office, etc., except such questions of relations between the local offices and the Central Office; where involved, the local office might communicate through the Central British office.\n\n25/5/20 After it for some time to consider whether we should send a notice requiring Colonies to notify their claims by 12th July. There would be no particular harm in telling Colonies to notify their claims by 12th July, as it might be desirable to get their claims in, but I should hesitate to say that they have so far done nothing to put the Clearing Office scheme into operation.\n\nLee herewith a minute by Mr. Chetham-Strode, especially referring to the Canadian Claim, 14913 from the Australian Govt.\n\n6/3/20 It is similarly being considered whether the Colonies should be informed that they should notify their claims to the Local Clearing Office. Newfoundland has already done so. The matter is not finally settled as it is possible that domestic legislation may not be required for the establishment of a Local Clearing Office.\n\nPage 108\n\n \nGR1178/1922/32(III)\n\nXCR(85)72",
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        "id": 483758,
        "series_id": 27,
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        "series_title": "CO129 Colonial Office Hong Kong Records 理藩院香港檔案",
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        "page_number": 111,
        "title": "CO129-461 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [5-7]",
        "content_text": "party to a Treaty has no Trouble with a provision in the treaty.\n\nIt is possible that the furmans have a right.\n\nRefuse to investigate & deal with\n\nIf not out Gratis.\n\nC refuse to include the amount thereof in the monthly payments which they are required to make.\n\n& Refuse to admit the Debt or the amount of such claims against German assets.\n\nAs regards the loss - Whink title: Shantung - as they are bound by the Peace of 1919 - See Art 1 (171),\n\nMr...\n\nWst. fuitte. 1/6/20\n\nI discussed this with you, and we agreed that the opinion expressed by Mr. Chetham Strode was very difficult of acceptance for the following reasons:-\n\n1. No argument can be drawn from paragraphs 11-14 of the Annex to Article 296 of the Peace Treaty, because these paragraphs deal with precisely the kind of matters excluded from the jurisdiction of local Clearing Offices under paragraph I of the Annex.\n\nThe fact is that the Annex draws no distinction between the Central Clearing Office and local Clearing Offices, except in so far as communications with the German Clearing Office are concerned. Paragraph I states specifically that local Clearing Offices may perform all the functions of a Central Clearing Office in their respective districts, except as regards transactions with the Clearing Office in the opposing State.\n\n(a) The Treaty allows the Allied Powers one month to notify adoption of the Clearing House scheme (Article 296 (e))\n\n(b) three months from the date of the notification to establish a Clearing Office (Article 296 paragraph I Annex).\n\n(c) six months from the date of establishment of a Clearing Office for the notification by creditors to the Creditor Clearing Office (Article 296, 5 of Annex).\n\nAs regards (a) the first date of notification to the German Government in respect of any part of the British Empire was not made until the latter part of January. In these circumstances, it seems ridiculous that the latest date for (c) should be six months from January 12th, 1920.\n\nThe above remarks apply to the Colonies as well as to the Dominions, but there is this special point applicable to the Dominions, viz. that when the original arrangements were made for the establishment of the United Kingdom Clearing Office, the Dominions were specifically excluded, and it was only settled in April, 1920, that the United Kingdom Clearing Office should act as the Central Clearing Office for the Dominions. If, therefore, the term \"Creditor Clearing Office\" in paragraph 5 means \"Central Clearing Office\" in relation to a Dominion, the period of six months allowed must, at any rate, date from...",
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        "series_id": 27,
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        "series_title": "CO129 Colonial Office Hong Kong Records 理藩院香港檔案",
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        "document_key": "CO129-461 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [5-7]",
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        "title": "CO129-461 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [5-7]",
        "content_text": "From the time when the United Kingdom Clearing Office became the Creditor Clearing Office for the Dominions. In the circumstances we thought that the best procedure would be for Mr. Bushe to discuss the question with Mr. Austin Cartmell before any action is taken as regards the Dominions.\n\nTelegram :- Enclodots, Londo Telephone :- Hop 5820.\n\nENCLOSURE\n\nG/CR\n\nIn any reply, the following Reference should be quoted :-\n\nIt should be noted that the Treaty does not specify any time within which the Creditor Clearing Office must notify the debtor Clearing Office of all debts declared to it.\n\nPlease do so.\n\n2941/6/20\n\n121/6/20\n\n8.8.26.20\n\nTHE CLEARING OFFICE (ENEMY DEBTS), CORNWALL HOUSE, STAMFORD STREET. LONDON, S.E.1., 28th May ...19...20\n\nDear Dixon,\n\nIn reply to your letter of the 26th instant, I attach the opinion of Chetham Strode on the point you raise, and I agree with him that it will be safer to assume that the time runs from the date of the establishment of the Central Office. You will observe that under our Order in Council a penalty is provided for non-notification. The matter would, however, appear to be a domestic one as the notice has to be given to the creditor and not to the debtor Clearing Office.\n\nIt is arguable that non-notification does not necessarily involve exclusion and that the object of the provision was mainly to frighten creditors into using expedition in lodging their claims.\n\nYours sincerely,\n\nC.W. Dixon Esq., Colonial Office, Downing Street, S.W.1.\n\nJ Jur...",
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        "page_number": 26,
        "title": "CO129-462 - Governor Sir Stubbs - 1920 [7-10]",
        "content_text": "Board of Trade,\n\n1042/21.\n\nDear Dixon,\n\n22\n\nArkwanae Gt. George St.\n\n7.7.21.\n\nWith reference to your letters of the 3rd and 18th of February referring to the Colonial Office official communication of the 17th of September (43352/20), I submitted your letter to the Controller of the Clearing Office and now enclose a copy of a Memorandum by Mr. Chetham Strode with which the Controller of the Clearing Office agrees. I hope that this Memorandum gives all the information you want.\n\nI may mention that our missing papers (6275) were found in the Clearing Office. They were sent to the Public Trustee on the 23rd of September through a clerical oversight. The necessary record was not made in our Registry.\n\nYours sincerely,\n\nH.M. Winders.\n\nC.W. Dixon Esq., M.B.E.\n\nColonial Office,\n\nS.W.1.",
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