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THE CHINA MAIL, MONDAY, JANUARY 6, 1958.

AT A MOMENT OF SUPREME IMPORTANCE IN OUR RELATIONS WITH RUSSIA, HERE IS THE FIRST INTERVIEW WITH THE SOVIET LEADER EVER GIVEN TO A BRITISH NEWSPAPER EDITOR

I AM AN OPTIMIST says Krushchev

M

THE BASIS FOR

FRIENDSHIP IS TRADE

an

elimination of discrimination und inltations,

When we are toll; "You can buy this from us but you can't Buy that," then this annoys us so much that we ometimu, m- fure to bur items which in normal conditions we would have bought.

We are a proud people. We do not like to humble our- selves,

We do

not like to enter II stop where they tell us we can buy one type of goods but not anther, an that the latter type

Countries,

1

R KRUSHCHEV has these words to say today about can only be bought by the Nato

world affairs: "I have

optimist. always been Today I am more optimistic than ever. All the signs point to the fact that the prospect for peace is brighton-b ing."

He said this in a 75-minute talk with the Editor of the Daily Express in the office of the Communist Party Central Committee building in Moscow.

Which British statesman did he think had the most understanding about developing better Anglo-Soviet rela- "In my Mr Krushchev chose Sir Anthony Eden. tions?

followed to opinion he also knew what road should be

he said. achieve this,'

Surprisingly, be made try, elence, and art thanks to remark about II- utented and industrious people. bombers or rocket-bases. Britain to a large extent lives

on trade. inter- Throughout the view he made only oblique references to the United State

no

The creative nelivities of her

tha

arc

Britain in Interested in further development of trade, including that with the Soviet Union.

We of our side willing for this and we could be very profitable trade part- most ners. help relations between the Our country could buy from two countries,

When he was asked what British action would

he said: you

many industrial products

"The basin of better rein. which are made so well by the With Britain could also buy

Industrial 1.3

products

tions between Our countries is trade,"

which she needs,

two from

of

That was the inals, theme bis talk.

FIRST then, here are his words about Anglo-Soviet trade, in full:~~~

THE most important factor in Improving Angio-Soviet re- Iations trade.

realistic You British Are !! people. We are realists us well. Britnin has reuched a high level of development in Indus-

IT'S ANNOYING

Most important; she could materials buy from us raw because her economy depend) on Imported raw materials,

Thus we puid successfully, and with benefits to both sides, develop our relations and con- soldate the friendship between our peoples.

Bul

The development of Anglo-Soviet trade demands the

with Ch in oration would like to add just this.

faid tibi It is not just- trade freely with the Soviet Union because one must net reveal defence in usty Mere dad eng mud 1.0. sell Trem the so-called strategie koods

But ach arruments ore in- "defeasible. We do not need to Bopert materials from the West the 'evelopment of our the- fence Industry,

OUR SKILL

The Soviet Union created the H-bomb carlier than America,

THIS WAS THE SCENE

TABLE ACROSS THE

Reading from left to right: Bottles of mineral water and fruit juice; Mr Krushchev's interpreter from the Ministry of

stapes Forelco Affairs; tray of stone (Mr K's opening joke was to say: "You'd break your teeth if you tried to eat them"); and Mir E. himself.

though the Americans, helped by the British, were the first to create the atom-bomb.

The evidence is most conclusive!

SY APPOINTMENT

TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH | GIN DISTILLERS BOOTH'S DISTILLERIČS, LTD.

FINEST

The Soviet Union was Erst. cariler than the West, create the ICBM.

the

:

fum- Let's t have Ai talk with

Krushchev)

KAPUTNIK NUMBER TWO

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to eliminate it not only tacen Britain and the Soviet Union but in all trade relations between

ali

countries

of

East and West-then it would be very useful and make inter national trade more normal and help the cause of peace,

Do you intend to buy more consumer Food

Britain 7

THIS is quite possible. We are developing our consumer goods industry, but we are also other goods in buying such countries, and we would be able also to buy some consumer goods in your country.

I suppose that our trade could be developed on this basis:--

The Soviet Union could buy from Britals equipment for the manufacture of certain types of consumer goods.

In the agreement, provision could be made that the firms which provided this equipment, or other British firms, would also sell us during u spoelfed period of time and is agreed quantities, the acluut products of such equipment.

NATO.

THE MOST COLOSSAL !: STUPENDOUS. BROADSIDE!! TO TERRIFY THE KREMLIN !!!

Cummings

I should like to add that in --- That is why we have given Our country produces ruch goods and will continue to ourselves the task, by using the comparing levels of production of the Secialist and levels of consumption in our develop their production further. advantages

countries, we must have in mind system, of catching up and over- But the Soviet Union is quite taking the Undied States, the that in Britain the per head willing to buy from certain predetermined quantities

Britain

of consumer goods in which we are interested. And all the more so because Britala has a world reputation Bild If the Foods bear the British hall mark, they are considered to be guaranteed of high quality.

QUESTIONNA

TN a recent Interview you said that the Soviet Union was planning to catch up with the American standard of living in 15 years.

When do you think the standard of living in the Soviet Union will equal that in Britain?

ME. KRUSHCHEY)

EXCUSE me, but you put me in a rather embarrassing position with your question,

But you must understand that the Soviet Union is a highly developed Industrial country. We consider that of all the Therefore we do not seek to capitalist countries, the United

to sausfy our needs is industrial States has achieved the highest consumer goods by importing level in overall production au from other countries,

in per head production.

the

The Soviet Union was arst, before others, to launch an arilheiat earth satellite.

These things prove that our techmology are on a very high level-in пру сабе, поt lower than that, for instance. Bri- tain and the United States.

Therefore the arguments that for security reasona strategic materials must not be sold to the Soviet Union are complete- ly unfounded,

The polley of discrimination offers us and is a hindrance to We the development of trade, muis quidate this discrimina- lion, these artificial barriers, which ham more than anyone the British themselves.

CHAPMAN PINCHER says:

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very different to per of production, country with the highest level production of industrial goods in

Consumption. I have not got at the momert

This is understandable, for an the necessary data to compare our level of production with important quantity of Britisla yours, and 1 admit that 1 bave industrial goods and the samo, not thought about the problem to a lesser degree, sa true of the of when our country will catch U.S.A.-are exported all over up with England--and in what the world and the homa popula-. category of goods this is to tion only consumes part of the be done.

goods produced.

In overall volume of produc- tion and even, one can say, in the majority of products we have already overtaken Britain,

For example, we have done this in the production of coal, pig-iron, steel, electric energy, and machine-building.

I suppose you have in mind the production of consumer goods per head of population in certain types of products the British "per head" production is higher than that in the U.S.S.R., but lower than in the U.S.A.

In the "per head" production of other types of goods we shall overtake England earlier than the U.S.A.

As for overall volume of pro- duction, I repeat that we havo long ago overtaken Britain.

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Therefore the per head pro- duction of industrial goods in Britain and the United States La as a rule considerably higher than the per head consumption.

In addition, the capitalist system in Britain, the U.8.A., and other countries 'distributam these goods unequally and thus consumption is unequal.

There are thus large contrasta between the standard of living of people with means and these without.

Under Sociallam this is not so, Our system guarantees consider. ably greater equality in the living standard of the entire people, and this must be kept-in-- - mind.

TOMORROW -

Eden knew the road

It the world too preoccupied to worry about the biggest nows of all?

Muller's Warning

medical the

for nourished and gave birth to.

1730 at

PROFESSOR HERMA 1 advanced that one donor could Medical Research, Mite for nouris If this discrimination can be

father several thousand children already Jiquidated, naturally this would expert on heredity, warns in his ifetime if enough women artlacial contribute to the improvement the world that new medical were willing to bear them. of economic relations and to

trics but also countries.

between

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There is one serious acientific the political atmosphere, not advances will enable any only between our two coun-nation ruthless enough to weakness in this system as

other suppress the human ideals means of racial, Improvement, of love and family life to To appreciate it let us examine the Andings of animal breeders breed a race of super-man. who have more than a century

of experience.

QUESTION

What happens? This fantastic statement with all its monstrous Implications shrugged progress of Anglo-Soviet or Ttrade has been a real dis- without comment of challenge however carefully its

I public. We had hoped for action

Farmers have learned that it off is no possible to ensure that an

animal will be above

average parents are chosen.

I appointment

to

the

British

swifter increase.

I know from personal experi- ence that there is a feeling in

as, Jonaly the British Government and in warning British Industry thai there before it is pushed out of the

punch-drunk has been a lack of enthusiasm world's

pellucal

me reiterate

science though "longhairs,"

this at Sputniks are moment circling the carth.

Let

Muller's CAR

con-

I NO

DRY GIN

on the part of the Soviet Union.sciousness by the next Ia discrimination really the crisis or atemle horror. unty obstacle to the uevelop.

BOOTH'S

The World's finest DRY GIN

Imported by CALDBECK, MACGREGOR & CO., LTD.

It is vital

His claim is not exaggerated.

tho I have seen

Laboratory experimenta which

ment of Angio-Soviet trade?

(Mr. KRUSHCHEV)

it

who are

of

Complex

Even with cattle the mechan- tsm of inheritance is so complex that its results istently predictable.

are not coul»

dalry bull with the Thus a most impressiva pedigree my fail to pass on to his daughters the high-milking quailties of his mother.

Lor cattle.

In regular

Insemination centres The scientists are in nò doubt that this

Do process could applied to human beings so that Bulls which have been dead one woman could give rise to for up to two years are stil several hundred "proxy" babies" fathering normal healthy calves. In a lifetime.

A nation!

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SelceLon of a corps of out- standing women n "Mothers of the Nation" is therefore medically feasible. The remain- ing women? They would serve as the incubators.

For those who doubt that this

ever ре would

AppsLN humans, 1 can repozi that thrée

As with the fathers, this women who agreed to undergo artcial seriasion Win deep- system could not be relied upon freeze material have aireudy to improve the race unless the given birth to normal chlidren ability of each woman to paG. in a US hospital

on desirable features could be checked by examining a few "prototype" children.

established Conaldering these facts it is not difficult to leresce

the way when min one.and.ng for physical and mental quales might be chosen as "Famers of t10 Notion" and con.inue to produce super-quality enuaren long after they are acad.

A national card-index system

ine dangers

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The only way to And out could keep whether a pedigree bull is worth inbreeding in check. make ES, I consider it the only possible. I have talked with the using on a bly scale is to wait

The weakness in such a plan until some

daughters of his aodiors and selentasta

motaurs grow up and then measure their that it ignore the doing them,

who are equally as impor.ant milk yield.

in haredily.

Yobstacle

others.

There aro по

I should like to mak small correction to

Bald just now.

# Only the vigilance

what you individuals who value freedom The mechanism of human

AS

com- moro

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Once more scleace has anti- The efpated the requirement, Ovary tissue which produces the temae cells can also be stored at deep-troezo temperatures, and

be then

tita gual.ed another female.

van

The dimeuilles of prolongod with storage are

grez.er thanı the imale material, but will be 100 overcome. Then women

ta will be able to give rise children long after they are doad,

Safeguard

Here again British scientists come up with a I know that in British trade and human dignity will prevent heredity is still

It is 110W circles there is a great desire these discoveries being misused plex especially with respect to have already

atom the findings of the

intelligence.

So it would be workable solution:

Professor

Muller is clearly for trade with us,

donate their pioneers have been debated for even more necessary to adopt possible for selected females to reproductivo cells business

thet right a of

warning Representatives

the wait-and-sco system before for transplantation 10 other selecting any circles understand that it is to destructive purposes.

scientific requirements for thousand females which merely serve as cold-blooded

creation their advantage, but the Gov-

So it is vital that everyone Lather of several

incubators for the young, and super-man" population already ernment circles, by certain ad-

realise how for these children.

give birth to them. bold should measures,

strango

experimenta have gone -

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them back.

Thus it is that Industrialists and Where they could lead

donor to be the

Normally such a father would bo elderly or doad by the time

were

By hundreds

the

the

oxiót.

As I see it there is only omo natural safeguard to

prevent, this happening.

The desire to produce and

children la

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and business circles want to The Arst practicat top his "prototype" children trade with the Soviet Union towards the Brave New World old enough to have their merits yet your Government apparent- prospect of super-men has fully concased.

This process, called "artificial ly is bound up by a common already been taken in Britain

But establishment of artificial

aclence bas already inovulation," has been achieved murtare agreement with Nato countries. the

means of with rabbits, sheep, and cattle. strongest of all human- driyog this By keeping to

Agree" | insemination. ал B

a practical successful devised

the most. ment the Government Bacrifices method of producing normal, overcoming this limitation. Thus, one sheep at a Cambridgn and

station has given rise extinguish. ature male resourch of your the interesis

own healthy babim,

possible to

In one scION fertilising material in the deep to 11 tamb industry and ignores the. Inter- est of the British people,

froene for years and possibly for instead of the usual two. Ita Perhaps no State will over ba offspring are normal except that strong enough to supprom the centuries.

This method, developed by a they boar no blood relationship virility of la men or the deep- Beam led by Dr Alés Pachim at to the Incubator molbers which maternal longtoga of. Ita won,

Specially selected anonymous If this obstacle to the do- men are serving a donors to velopement of trade could be childless couples and -- sathering Kaayod--and it in novossary i abiláren they never see.

is now