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CORRESPONDENCE.

RATIONALISM.

THE CHINA MAIL.

ignorance. And, meanwhile, we will endeavour to be as charitable

BIBLE FACTS?

us possible, and whilst you (To the Ediles of the Chima Mail) trumpet forth officially your con-

bluster."

MODERN CHURCHMEN AND jorganisation. We will, therefore,tempt for our scepticism, we will Hay nothing of the bowing to the at least try to believe that you are East, the incense, the candles, the imposed upon by your own

Yours, etc., acolytes and other paraphernalia of the accredited churches, but confine ourselves to the Holy Hongkong, April 22. Communion and Baptism which the writer of the article mentions.

To the Editor of the China Mail.1 Sir.---Two things must impress themselves 411 the ordinary Honalist reader as the result of perusing the article which ap- poured in your columns on the Modern Churchman's position :--| (a) The erious mentality of the Modern Churchman who can reject or explain away all the elements of Christianity which armed the essential Freed for a man, say, like Faley, yet show the Talind por“ on all the philoso

phical elements.

bullets in a battle.

A.E.F.

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As the writer acknowledges (To the Editor of the China Mail) time 20 inches or 500 feet; ordinarily wonderful! Noah must that both these practices go back

to the earliest days of the Chris-Sir-I

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But catch the spreading netion

of the Town."

Yours, etc.,

"NUDA VERITAS.” Hongkong April 23,

THURSDAY, APRIL 23, 1925.

"But Faith, fanatic Faith once

wedded fast

To some dear falsohood, higs it

to the last." Thanking you once more for your kindness.

Yours, etel,

"INDIVIDUALIST" Hongkong, April 22.

OPEN NECKS.

(To the Editor of the China Mail),

crude though they may seem" in comparison?. Why not allow every man in office hours to dis- card his collar and tie even though, his work may involve exposure to the public gaže?

There is this much to be said for such a revolutionary course- open neck shirt may be sufficient- ly presentable after a morning's work for it to be offered to the public gaze when its owner obtains mid-day sustenance but by the time that 5 o'clock comes I Yow my moral courage would not be sufficient for me to stand on.. the lower" Peak Tramway station. or partake of refreshment in a public place until I had had a change. Then if one is going out in the evening or if one's stutus is such that evening dress is imperative, well, speaking per- sonally, my laundry bill is heavy enough already and I have heard others talk of the independent The attitude taken up by amaha

nowadays,

Yours, etc... LESS HOPEFULLY. Hongkong, April 22,

"ST. DUNSTAN'S BIRTHDAY....

why Suffer innocent fowls of the lated to-day. So much is taken air, beasts of the earth, and upon word." How could these dumb things Inscets to die a deuth of torture 7

offend God? Why all this waste- Si"Ignoranco believes, in-of energy and animal life? Not telligence examines and explains."only was all animal life extin

"A cubit is defined in some guished but all vegetable life must! dictionaries as equal to eighteen also have been put to an end by inches, in others, as twenty-two. the flood. Noah must have pro- Taking the mean, the dimensions vided sufficient to last till a new of the crk are: length, 300 cubile crop. could be raised. How extru- |

breadth, 50 cubita or 83.3 It.. and have been provided with a mathe-. fawi height 80 cubits or 50 ft. Canmatical train far superior tu afy

correspondent of "three mathematician of this world. which I entertain decades" imagine the ark to be I have written sufficient to dis-

set any bigger than the average ocean prove the "Noah's Ark" myth and Sir, I have not much student of folklore and anthropolowards the views recently

if occasion arises. I am prepared sympathy with "Hopeful." If he log he might trace them much forth by the Rev. Mr. Feather-liner?. It is beyond me. further back still. The Holystone in your paper, If I now To conte to the question of the to show conclusive evidence that feels an open-neck shirt is likely Communion might be affiliated to find myself compelled to disagree inhabitants in the ark, Genesis, great part of the Old Testament to add to his comfort during the the primitive custom among cer- more cordially with the letter inch 6. 20 says, "of fowls after must be taken in the same manner hot weather, and is afraid to ap This pear in a "Cissy" shirt, then that tain savages of "eating the god," today's issue. I will beg their kind and of cattle and of as a myth or fairy tale. auch with other hideous cannibal Featherstone to believe that the every creeping thing of the curth litoral belief does not carry with is his own funeral. No man need rites. Now no matter how enre-respect is us genuine as ever. after his kind. two of every sort broadminded and inquisitivo. per- feel unnecessarily uncomfortable (b) The essential truth of Siffully the revolting aspects of the His latter et me re-reading shall come unto thee. to keep sons. You may be God-fearing round the neck in the summer if

Leslie Stephen's summary of rite may be covered over, to one the published report of the them alive"; while ch. 1. v 2. but that should not prevent you he will but take thought.

trouble with most men is that the position thirty years ago who has traced it back to its speeches made at the R.P.A. Din-states, "of every clean beast thou from questioning the bibl -Threats of hell-fire cross-origin in this way, or who even ner. I find there no grounds for shatt take to thee by sevens, the should strengthen your efforts whilst in the winter they wear 3h other as thickly as thinks he has, the mind simply Me Featherstone's accusation male and his female, and of beasts and inspire you to seek after the collars which grip the neck tight- ly they do the same in the sum- Turks.

refuses to sanctify the modern that missionaries and their work that are not clean by two of truth.:

mer. Also they wear the same Jews, and heretics, and even simulnerum. The rite remains were indiscriminately attacked, fowls also of the air by sevens."

class of collar during both unbaptised children, the vast simply as a hideous corpse.

Exceptions there may be to the To be saved, you must believe

seasons.. A soft collar may be majority of the whole race, Then, why this nebulous talkgeneral statement there made, both. Try it. Do the seven here

most acceptable in the winter but, were consigned to its flames about being "pledged to proclaim and I myself have known mission of every species mean

unless it is larger in size than (To the Editor of the China Mail) as freely us brutes to un-Christianity," when the very suburies who shared these Modern-males and seven females or three! nihilation by thousands of stance of Christianity is a Will o' iam opinions and who doubtless and a half each? A child of nine

usually worn, it should be dis-

Sir-Will you please allow, me carded in the summer-for it, is a theologians and millions of the wisp? "We stand to it that taught them to their converts.would tell you that in arithmetic

fallacy to think that the soft to tell your readers that to-dry is ordinary Believers. Only Christ has a message for every But the Modernists de nou, to my such a thing as three and a half

collar is cool in summer. A linen the Tenth Anniversary of the few "milt thinkers could man in every age, and that in Him own great regret, form a majority asses is an unknown and unheard breathe "a half suppressed is the

collar in summer, of a reasonable Foundation of St. Dunstan's by solution of the world in the churches at home, and wil of thing. Are not cattle clean

This is not the place to refer in problems. the answer to man's Mr. Featherstone assert that they feasts". Oh, the absurdity of the

depth, will be found cooler, and, the late Sir Arthur Pearson. what seems to me of some im- every need. Which Christ? We do so on the mission field, where whole thing!

Dunstan's have Billy Sunday's. the Modern it is a notorious fact that self,

18"God "created great whales Sir-You have of late given soportance,, will add to the appear any detail to St.

ance of the wearer. Discard also a achievements and needs, beyond their Churchmans, the Pope's. Gunt devotion and outworn creeds go and every winged fowl after his much prominence to the many thick tie which has to be pressed saying that in the ten years of our inginity in giving form and Tolstoy's and a host of others- so often hand in hand? The kind and God saw that it was good controversies on religion chiefly

The ordin. them in reality to the conception-very, one antagonistic to the exceptions exist. doubtless; but, and God blessed them saying, Be with reference to the veracity or round the collar, and comfort is existence we have trained all of useful occupations,

Were driven

wild probably not be very sorry for the general rule in the course waters in the seas, and let the should have thought Sir, that by ary soft collar never is and never through the pursuit of which they paroxysms of hysterical ex-to See citement, numbers into mid-roasted).

Modern Churchman of necessarily brief remarks can fowl multiply in the earth, why now, you would have advocated for can be neat, and I invite a host are able to add to the pensions, hese. by vehement and unre-churchman could hardly be ex-criminately,

Of course, a Modern scarcely be said to attack indis-did he deem it wise to destroy a "Week of Free Discussion on of "experts" to contradict me if and avoid the unhappiness which proved declimation. Everyported so see the comic side of his With brief reference to Mr. them Poor innocent little beings, Religion" and let each man give they dare. We have no experts, might have been their lot were

and a glance at Hongkong men they unemployed."

We have pledged the com-. Mas pure as snow, tortured to his own opinion... of the persecutors case, but this flourish of a Featherstone's invitation:

death, simply because man had I believe there is some law in surely the worst dressed in Chris-

tendom, proves this....I do think munity to look after these men was justified by the essity message" and "a mission," when Featherstone should be aware! of saving sutils from hell the artist product is a mass of that the R.P.A., being, unlike the refused to turn towards God. Logic or perhaps it is And os at fast your greed warring sects and mushroom churches, almost without endow Any one who has been in a flood psychology which asserts that we need some sort of dress re- for the rest of their lives, we re- is" doping" "People have reeds hus a comie side..

ments or paid officials. would will know what it is like to sit up each man thinks according to the form. Let us have "Cissy" shirts ceive no State assistance, and we discovered that you know nosi We may again quote from therefore find it difficult to all night watching the waters rise "Apperception-Masses he posby all means; but let the additions have to collect from voluntary thing, that heaven famous modern writer: "Is it recept. Possibly a visitor might our harmless animals had tosesses at the back of his head. be in keeping. We don't want to sources nine-tenths of the annual

Shelley or Byron-and the lower nicht, to drem not then the very height of ix sent from our London heat rush up hills to escape the deluge The man who has read the Bible see the upper half a caricature of income we need.

a cross between a football player ask your readers to wish St. laats that the impertinent ukagity, in face of a difficulty, quarters, and for this purpose the caly to perish in the end... Such for the last three decades or so young martide who tells mol

us at every turm. central executive of the Church-acts of cruelty cannot have come will perhaps still retain the inter-and a soldier. I should be in Dunstan's Many Happy Returns that shall be burne ever which has perplexed all the ablest men's Union might issue un from God. Rather had this myth retation of it made years ago, favour of something akin to the of the Day and to ensure that

from men desirous of even if facts prove contrary prin-fold Grecian costume.

the wish will come true by send- It only Instingly for not sharing his

thinkers in proportion, to their invitation to the R.P.A. Head come

That the Bible was needs the Colonial Secretary to ing us a donation as a Birthday super tition is just as ignobility, which vanishes in one quarters, at 5. Johnson's Court, frightening the little knowing ciples.

and greatly fearing men of written in an age of barbarism. make a move and we shall all Present? ant as I am myself, and that shape only to show itself in Fleet Street.

know as much as my dog another, to declare roundly, ros With Mr. Featherstone's plea ancient days. To-day is a day of no one can deny; and it may be follow suit-a pardonable pun in aid that, if the O.T. had been the circumstances, In this way And then you calmly only that the difficulty

can be for more cordial understanding enlightenment.

inspired last night as I was read-also the Piece Goods situation again, is all a mistake: ved but that it does not exist? am wholly in agreement, and this, and that, had the other Why when no honest man will profess to like liberality of mind

ing your correspondent's letter, it would be relieved. deny in private that every ultim as much as he. But surely Mr.

would have been, a conglomera- benevolent doubt; perhaps ate problem is wrapped in the Featherstone will admit that it is

tion of terms in astronomy as for aimios necessurity means aj

profoundest mystery, do honest un altogether exceptional clergy-

instance in a description of the limited time, pr has neves men proclaim in. pulpits that un-man

who will recommend his

"Nebular Theory" etc., in terms of sarily relation to time at hesitating certainty is the duty of parishioners to read the other

Physics, Chemistry and Mathe-To all, or has both meanings at the most foolish and ignorant? side?

maties the exact sciences, laws of ones only believe in some Is it not a spectacle to make the thing und we will make it as easy for you as possible angels laugh? We are a company

whisper of doubt, under im- minent peril of heresey; Fainties, prenehers, and Orajers exhausted

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cruelty

excellent man cherished

which meets

Hell shall have no more than ignorant, beings, feeling our

a line eqeable wimperature,

a belief in the Empty Tomb"

Arnold:--

He may even sing with Matthew "Now he is dead! Far hence

he lies In the lorn Syrian town;

ing eyes,

way through raists and darkness, obtaining a glimmering of trutin;

༣་

Yours, etc..

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A MEMBER OF THE R.P.A. Hongkong April 22. -

a priori pregnable.

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I understand thefe, are no fewer than 12,500 known species of birds, what about those flying about in the great forests of the earth unseen by men? 1,658 beasts are great number, while one million species of insects could not possibly find floor space in an ark barely 500 ft. long and 81 ft. wide, They would constantly be treading on one another's toes.

ark.

Fu the Editor of the China Mail),

in

reasonably gained

EURIPIDES.

Yours, etc.,

Hongkong. April 23.

the Editor of the China Mail.)

In these circumstances may I

Yours, etc.,

IAN FRASER, Chairman, St. Dunstan's, Inner Circle, Regent's Park,. London, N.W.1. London, March 27.

TENNIS CHANCE,

which are fiwed, so long as this! Sir, It is surprising to seeTo the Editor of the Chino Mail.

.

(To the Editor of the China Mail).

•

Sir, -Your correspondent

One of your contemporaries an- nounces that the Americans,. Kinsey brothers and Snodgrasa, now touring Japan, are to visit Shanghai.

The Hongkong” Cricket Club runs the annual tournament. The tennis league is a different con- cerin and there is no governing association. Tennis interports have

become ancient history.. Unless we get together, the pre- sent opportunity will slip away

from us,

Cannot the H.K.C.C. be asked to extend an invitation to these. redoubtable exponents of the game of the season? faire and the maskee spirit run- ning a dead-heat in this race?

Yours, etc.,

PLAYER.

What are the odds on laissez

Hongkong, April 23.

universe of ours exists, otherwise mere man trying to help mould

Sir,-Tennis enthusiasts should, to the day of judgment. Can the fashions of the "fair sex. There were three floors to the your correspondent prove by any Unless I am blessed with what not let slip an opportunity of Where, I should like to earthly arguments that the Bible medicos may or may not call seeing world beaters at play. really good for the constitu- by falling into every conceivable (To the Editor of the China Mail), know, did Noah put all his food was not, during the many stages 0/6ths sight, I see that Hongkong tion: there shall be nobody in dimly discerning light

stuff for the fowls of the air, the of its history badly mauled and ladies can take good care of them-

Nature's selves. Sir-Almost Mr. Featherstone beasts and the insects? Probably hopelessly modified? it except Judas Iscariot enough for our daily needs. But

There is scarcely he hung it from the cellings in rules have no exceptions.→→ Those who can pretend that one or two more; and even

hopelessly differing whenever we convinces me. the poor Devil shall have a

sport shirts without collars are attempt to deserila the ultimate an aim which be quotes which will such a manner that his "lock" Spencer,

During the Middle Ages in not the thing for summer wear chance if he will only resive origin or and of war paths: and not find general acceptance could reach forth for food when to mond his ways."

yet, when one of us ventures to especially No. 6, to which night necessary-but we are not told so. Europa, the Bible and teachings must have constitutions which Now, in the article published in declare that we don't know the be added the claim of the laity to Lacking worms; the requisite founded upon this "inspired" book even the medicos will not be able -your issue of Saturdag this cute map of the universe as well as the "Sack" those of the clericals who bird-seed for the fowls of the air, was used; though few are aware to propound.

some must have taken a great deal of the fact, as a means for “keep" Those few who have been auda- face geas ever much farther map of our infinitesimal parish, are incompetent, and in The Modern (nurehman" may he is hooted, reviled, and perhaps cases unfitted to perform the more space than my friend of fing down" the poorer and eren cious enough to venture on the even "eins to commit himself told that he will be damned to all sacred vows they have imposed three decades" would imagine. wealthier classes; and woe unto hot months minus coliar and tie a good cause. eternity for his faithlessness, upon themselves. The danger is in Granting that there were animal-, him who gave an opinion arrived are pioneers ir Amidst all the endless and hope. Airas Nos, 1 and 2-or it can be cular in those days, how many at by an impartial and critical Most of them are service or ex- There were many service. men. Still, the great hess controversies which have left made a danger. The revelation hundreds of thousands must have judgment. nothing but bare husks, of mean-f the Holy Spirit presumably is marched into the ark in seven martyrs in those days, and so are thing will be to get our taipans ingless words, we have been able that given through the Bible in days? Did a particular polar bear there to-day, though they are not not to follow suit but to palm to discover certain reliable truths. regard to the Trinity-"Compre and his mate meet a couple of handled in the same way.

off the idea as their own or, better And on his grave; with shin- They don't take us very far, and This doctrine is, or should be, im before it's too late?

hensible yet incomprehensible.' seals and say:-Let's to the ark "It is after all indifferent whe- still, to give us something which

Did they ther the Bible is true or not, would be equivalent to 3/9th the condition of discovering them;

There should be no more from the poles in seven days because we know it isn't! That's clothes in 90 degrees of sun. The Syrian-stars look down." ~ has been distrust of

Yours, etc., Stories of the Virgin Birth" guesses, and the systematic inter- need to restate it "from time to and how could they have stood that. But when it comes to

LAUNDRYMAN. time." In this way confusion lies. the numerous changes in the founding a religion upon it, then too, he need only believe in the rogation of experience. Let us What mankind needs is a return climate? Did a snail any, to a we have to prick our ears and

Hongkong,. April 22, Pickwickian sense." Thus the say Some of us, follow at least this seid of Samuel Butler's Erno clue. Here we shall find sufficient to simplicity simplicity of doe tortoise, "I'll race you to the ark, see what's going on, that no false and The Fair Harea has eaten guidance for the needs of life trine and a simplicity of life, or did the ark come to them? impression goes forth abroad. Rway the tissues of the Apostles though we renounce for ever the Jesus died for the propitation of Very likely, our fable of the Again, to say that we know n Creed into a nebulous vapour, and att mot to get behind the veil the sins of the world: or he did tortoise and hare was derived more than those barbarians who

A FAMOUS MAGICIAN. one has succeeded in not. Convince us on this state from this source, considering that gave us the Bible is to deny our- "Hopeful" would have us believe left an interesting study in pri-¦ which “Lio mitive superstition and folklore,ruising: if, indeed, there be any trouble about this "from time to failed to have been one of the silvanced in any line of human open to us with regard to the CARTER AT THE QUEEN'S.

ment and Christianity need not the hare might very likely have selves the honour of having that there are only two cources You miscrable The curious lack of any under thing behind.

"Open Neck" controversy either ying philosophical basis is shown Agnostics! is the retort; throw time." Eliminate this and you fortunate three and a half males endeavour for centuries upon (1) strict conformance to the un-

centuries, and to deny ourselves a

Carter, the great magician, is to- written laws of etiquette and the by such statements as the follow aside such rubbish, and cling to need not necessarily kill religion. to enter the ark.

Could eight the old husks. Stick to the words The ten commandments will do to

persons have legitimate place in the animal wearing of a collar and tie from appear al the Queen's Theatre ou ing: "God, from his very nature, is always trying to reveal which profess to explain every-be going on with and if we can managed the feeding, washing or Kingdom.

Let me illustrate. The force of the moment one dresses in the Friday. Carter claims that where Himself more fully. "When we thing; call your doubts mysteries, add to them the beatitudes of the

animals? Talk sense.

gravitation has perhaps been morning to the time when, shak- others merely entertain, he as- ing from off one's feet the tounds the audience with the speak of Revelation, we are-think- and they won't disturb any long- sermon on the mount-observing currying and cleaning of all these

Can we believe that the hippopo- acting ever since the world was shackles of the office and the dust baffling nature and variety of his ing of a movement of God man-er, and believe in these necessary them all-we shall advance a

Yet it ward; when we speak of Dis truths of which no two philoso- little on the pathway that leads to

feats for which Chinese masters in. covery, we are thinking of the phers have ever succeeded in an earthly contentment, and that tamus and elephant of to-day are created from the void.

the same

will help us to meet the unknown evolved from weasels? Certainly remained for a great mathe of the city, one rturns home as performances. In addition to the version. search of man after God. Here giving

with less trepidation than at pre- not. The ark was big enough to matican like Newton to find that the temporary ruler of all survey the art are famous, Cartervill

ed with full power to ride rough- Gentlemen, we can only reply,

such a force existed what did it? shod over even fashion's decrees; hold them, so it is asserted.

appear in many notable tricks, as everywhere, the law of co-

amongst which the pantomime walt till you have some show of sent appears to be the case.

Did Noah have a hot and cold He was sitting in his garden. A operation holds good."

As the author of these state- agreement amongst yourselves. this "barging" reminds me of the

verger of R "fashionable" storage arrangement in his ark or ripe apple fell to the ground. He or (2) the defiance of there of a princess from a hungry line neck in the street and even in assistapts from one cabinet to ments does not hesitate to uphold Wait till you can give some Church, famous for its visits of did the polar bear and his mate enquired why? And the world deerees by the wearing of an open and the fight of one of his lady suite of suffer the agonies of a temperate has now to thank him for his offices where one is liable to be another may be instanced. Carter, his right to question and criticise answer, to some of the doubts

eloquent preachers. Old and New Testament writers which oppress us as they oppress all the sermons he had heard, he zone for no less than five months? "liy." and their theories.he will natur- you

Mt. Ararat is supposed to be several laws known as the Law subject to the gaze of the public, who has been engaged on an 8- Wait till you can point to

Hopeful" has overlooked the year tour of the principal cities of assured a - friend, he was still a single truth, however ally acknowledge our right to some criticise his philosophy, and to say trifling, which has been discover. / Christian. Unhappily we cannot over 16,000 ft. high. Did the of Gravitation. Might not many fact that a favoured few of us are the world, now comes to Hongkong that his statement seems to us noted by your method, and will stand say that of newspaper and other insects-worms and snails-allow such things have happened within a position even in office hours for the second time with many.

It is probable that gravity to have free play and roll the Bible by asking Why why to snap our fingers at fashions tricks as yet unfamiliar to local which so literally. "bind" our re- rasidents. Two years ago, when Yes certainly, the Athanasian Creed, How reason without in the same breath by "dry rot" in the pulpit; un liberated from the ark or did they

christianlike. expression. of prefer the cold air on the top of to-day we know a wealth of things of our work and the situation of crowded house were the order of "

casually discovered by Newton, our office our duties involve us the season. any intelligent person vilifying reason. Wait till your thought and conduct on the part the mountain? accept the tenets of a religion Divine revelations have some of professional Christians, and The water rose over 18 cubits, so we have found out a bag full showing ourselves to none. but will be the case when he comes tá - which postulates such a deity!

know are sensible the Queen's Theatre.. thing more to reveal than the hedging on the part of those who In my childhood days I learnt of tricks about the "inspired those we The writer touches very lightly hope that the hideous doubts have publicly accepted the forty that Mt. Everest is no less than volumes." Hear what Professor enough not to object even if they on what seems to ua o much more which they suggest may possibly stripes Save

the 39 29,002 ft. high. How about this? Moore has to say

have not followed our examples serious difficulty the

be without foundation.~THH| Cra-

Articles), and accepted Deacons God flooded the earth to Ha it "True religion apart from dogma themselves ments etc of the Christian then we shall be content to admit and Priests' vows which they have of wickedness, the driving out of is the sublimed essence of the Hopeful would like to see churches. We say "etcetera," be openly, what you whisper under quietly shelved-than anything Adam and Eve did for seem to knowledge of the highest things universal attoperon of the open cause different sections acknow-your breath. or hide in technical else. It is a terrible thing to improve matters. Was God, the of the world, and in itself is never neck in weather hot enough to ledge a different number, and the jargon, that the ancient secret is write. I should like to be assured all-knowing, and omnipotent mak: opposed to natural science. justify such a measure of relief efficacy and merit of the various A secret still; that man knows no- it is wrong.

wing experiments with mantind" There does not seem to be much but would not a more satisfactory sacraments, Ceremonies and thing of the Infinite and Absolute; rubrics have different worth and that knowing nothing, he had according to the ecclesiastical better not be dogmatic about his

only untenable but almost as the test of discussion and verifica- disputers.

All

Because he discovered

meaningless as the gibberish of tion. Wait till you can appeal to more unbelievera have been made down the hill after having been] why???ly and just as spiratory organs. By the nature he performed at the Theatre Royal,

could

Youra, etc.

PALMOS.

Hongkong, April 28,

If Noah's offsprings wore to be reading, marking, learning and arrangement be the more general the better lot that would serve inwardly digesting that can be adoption of the methods of the God, why create Adam or Eve and properly and wholesomely assimil favoured few. I have indicated,

Doubtless the same

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