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-UNIVERSITY TROUBLE.

the Editor of the Ching Mail]

You were

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1924...

We believe it unwise of you tą] =

Yours etc,

JUSTICE. Hongkong, November 14:

To the Editor of the China Mail.

RIGHT OR MIGHT.

Hongkong, November 16..

KOWLOON HOSPITAL.

iniquity of "contumacions con-there-issues-arise out of the main

admit that better institutions. duct" and "breaches of disone--whether or not the Hong-

could be found elsewhere and to 17h the Editor of the China Moll kong Registrar shall go on grant- word, we

ask the students to seek for know- cipline"; why, in a

Sir, It was, it is, and I believe ledge there. It is not fair to this refuse to dispute over utterlying probate to widowa of Chinese residents of Hongkong who die irrelevant detalls. "M. T. Barrel!" intestate; or whether the strict

institution that the students it will be the motto of the Britian should take your advice before That "Right is Might," but regret the institution Is allowed to prove to state this maxim seems not to and "Justice," with their ready Chinese law shall be adhered to

Sir.-It seems to be the practice its worth. We think the students have been instilled into the minds sarcasm,, may say (if they ke) under which, according to evi- tance given, the father of the

deplorable sight that this is only a ruse to avoid deceased or the head of the house of Editors who come out to curn have a lot to thank you for of some soldiers of the East your suggestive and to witness that after the last facing unpleasant facts. But we hold has the supreme say in the a living in the East to write Finally, you are to be congratu-Surreys. It is

match be sensible editorial. Many have Saturday's football would point out that besides the administration of the estate, panegyrics usually on the institu- lated on

tween the Surrey and the Chinese, ... some soldlers maliciously pushed many obvious replies their letters The case is still sub judice and in

the civilians right and left, and invite "Justice's" alone culd be any event its legal aspects should tions, which represent their enjoyed reading it, including,

need no emphasis in these columns culture or on the individuals who

on being questioned as to what dissected as an example of an when they are in such able, hands represent their institutions, whe

was the idea of their behaviour, attitude the University authorities as those of Mr. Eldon Potter and ther, these institutions are worthy

they only threw down their the individuals have to face much more dis, Mr. Jenkin. All that a newspaper

of praise or

gauntlet, instead of apologising. of honour. Your

Near the entrance to the French couraging, than any contempt for can do is to publish as fully as

Hospital, some inflicted the same discipline-we wonk! point out space permits the arguments of deserving

learned counsel and the judgment yesterday's editorial, sir, repre- In itself this aented very well that practice and

Sir,-Your leader on University kind of treatment on a few inno- that besides these obvious replies, when it is made. we can charge both "M.T. Barrell" Judgment as affecting thousands by writing that, you are a credit. and "Justice" with entirely miss-in time millions of dollars-will to the institution that produces Trouble and the high philosophy cent and defenceless maid-ser- And for that, we chord in the symphony of my way through the crowd by means content. Lolling in the sun of their sticks instead of saying ing the point we made in the be an important one and, as it is you and the country that gives of S.MT. strike a sympathetic vants. While others made their These soldiers should leader "which" has housed their likely to be the first given by the, you birth. new Chief Justice, particular honour you

But the facts you produced are watching the shadows fall, I feel please.

"You at peace with myself and the remember that Hongkong is a sarcasm. Our point was simply interest attaches to it.

far from being correct. this Discipline must be enforced

mentioned that "the Vice-Chan-whole world. I cannot imagine British Colony and they them- if the University is not to degen-

cellor was compelled to send down why there should be trouble when selves are Britishers. Especially for one term a student whose there is peace around me. The being soldiers they should practice erate into hopeless confusion, Japan And Singapore.

birds are on the wing, and even being a spectator of the scene can- for students-even married stu-

The coming into power of a breaches of discipline were too sun is still shining in the sky, the the motto "Right is Might" and I dents-are-not always paragons, Conservative Government in glaring to pass over."

to me obeys the discipline of attention to this misbehaviour and one breach of the regulations, England has already alarmed a right when you stated that the the fragrant breeze that is wafted not refrain from drawing their certain section of the Japanese student was sent down for a tern. nature. Seeing and feeling all and hope they are not too old to allowed to pass unrehnlist, usually Press lest the Singapore naval But you were absolutely wrong these things, I cannot understand learn and practise this motto.

Yours-etc. .. leads to another. Rather than base scheme should again be when you said that the student

BYSTANDER. have a bad university, owing to revived. Already certain of the was sent down for "breaches of why students cannot submit to this cause, the Colony, we main- Japanese papers are inclined to be discipline." The Vice-Chancellor discipline, especially more so,

unfriendly towards the

new had specially written a letter say. when I ugree entirely with the tain, would see the University British Cabinet. In thus earlying that the student was not sent un climax of your illuminating ccept the discipline imposed by Itag closed down altogether, Where showing hostility, our Japanese/down for breach of discipline" leader, that "students must either.|

is there any room in that conten-contemporaries signally fail to but for what he termed con- the proper authorities or go else-To the Editor of the China Mail.]

where. What is better in this tion for "cheap sneers at British recognize that the Labour Govern- tumacious conduct" towards the

ment, under Mr. Ramsay Mac. Wurden. It shows how much you world than discipline? It hardens. Sir, I also wish to offer strong prestige? Exactly the same view Donald, never definitely abandon know about University affairs.

Your dissertation on discipline the soul and sterilises the mind. protest against the Kowloon Hos would be taken in Britain bouted the Singapore scheme. It is “Oxford, Cambridge or any other true that the Labour Ministers clearly exposes the futility of Students, sir, as a body, are to pital being staffed by Roman university in the Home and postponed the matter, but prior human understanding. If there five instructions and not to Catholic Sisters from New York. Simply it is the British way of to any talk of dissolution, cables is no justice in discipline then hit. When they think there is Surely our British Colony can find them think? Subject them to Government Hospital. What other considerabic discipline itself is useless and bad to be trouble, so why make British Sisters to staff their own rumming a university, not merely interest had been revived in the dangerous. It may turn in the Far East, but in other parts matter. It is more than probable agitators preaching under it discipline and there is an end of country with any national spirit of the Empire as well; and, as that, out of defence to representa- force a misguided faith to the the matter. I believe parents, would staff their Hospitals with tions from Australia and New downfall of civilisation or Bol-being a parent myself-send their nurses of another nationality. sities mainly to cultivate that public feeling which has been we have said before, those who Zealand, the matter would again sheviks preaching an economic superfluous offsprings to univer- We can only trust that the strong do not like that way, well, they have become a live issue had low over the red ruins of the self-denial following the imposi-aroused may present such dis

I am honour being thrown on an must go elsewhere. That is all. Labour remained in power in world. To preach discipline within of strict discipline. Only one point now remains to be Britain. It is the belief of many out enquiring whether that dis-acquainted with Samuel Smiles association which has such names that Mr. MacDonald and his sup cipline is based on justice or on and Self-Help," where discipline us those of Florence Nightingale considered. That is the point porters, in the first place, dropped injustice is an act worthy of a ruised by "M, T. Barrell when he the scheme somewhat hurriedly in man who believes in praising the of the body has been shown to and Nurse Cavell. amongst its

and that is why I ngree, without pokes fun at our insistence upon the full belief that they would institution of his culture whether produce an unconquerable soul members.

reservations, with your leader. The Authorities of The Univer-

I cannot help sympathising with discipline being rigidly enforced gain popularity on the grounds of the institution is good or bad.

saving public money. Their and by "Justice" when he writes lavish expenditure in other direc-sity are very strict on misguided the philosophy of S.M.T. being upon the same subject in terms tions, however, militated against discipline. They preach that the likewise myself. I believe that it that are almost too immoderate to their gaining popularity by tem- Warden must be looked upon as will do this university a lot of Is the dis- porarily shelving the Singapore a god immutable and infallible good if severe discipline were to man who can be imposed on the students. If a be taken seriously.

scheme. Judging from public and not as

Surely that doctrine student were to be a minute late cipline at the University unduly utterances during the election err severe? Both our correspondents campaign, the Singapore scheme of discipline is pernicious in all at lectures, fine him, ask him to declare that it is, but the Univer- was never made a plank in the its forms unless you want to stand up and apologise to the Conservative Party's programme. subjugate a race or create gods, lecturer, and this will teach him sity authorities, by the very fact Antagonism in Japan to the Con- If the University does not repre- to be punctual. If he were in an that they are striving to enforce servative Government because the sent British culture in its best office there is no doubt that the it, must hold that it is not. scheme was originally put for- form and the men who come out manager will dismiss him for Obviously it is impossible for us word by a Conservative adminis-ure unable to preach and put into buing late. Why then not follow bout between Captain Matty Smith

tration is not necessarily sound. practice that culture, then it is similar methods when university and Jim Cartlidge, a The Admiralty authorities were high time that the University be students after graduation will former expressed the wish for a return match. The announce- fully agreed upon the matter, closed and the teachers sent back become clerks. Time is money.

I know that university students ment that the Hongkong Boxing despite the opposition of the late to jobs for which they are best Sir Percy Scott. It is more than fitted. Because if the University are no better than school boys, Association has agreed to promote discipline is too severe. They are probable that, sooner or later, the dues not show the best traditions having failed B.A. at most of the another meeting is, entitled to have it relaxed, but as Labour administration would have of the British Race and is allowed universities of Europe and even at premature.

to degeneration through lack of the older universities of Great In conversation with Mr. T. G. the authorities show no signs of deemed it advisable to abide by administrative and cultural know- Britain, where pass degrees are Bennett (Hon. Secretary of the relaxing it, what should the the advice of the Admiralty ledge, then it will be blot on simply thrown at you, if you stay Association) this morning, a "China S.M.T. then, will Mail" representative was told that experts. Therefore, the Japanese students do to attain their wish! view that the revival of the the escutcheon of Britain and the course.

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The China Mail,

HONGKONG, MONDAY, Nov. 17, 1924.

UNIVERSITY TROUBLE.

to decide. However, for the sake

of argument, we will assume that

the students are right, that the

announced that

LOCAL AND GENERAL.

A number of host people were charged at the Kowloon Magistracy this morning with causing obstruction with their craft while loading sand at Shainsuipo, Fines of $25 were luflicted.

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out

Yours etc.,

KOWLOON RESIDENT, Hongkong, November 15.

BOXING.

MATTY SMITH KEEN FOR RETURN.

J

CARTLIDGE IS WILLING.

At the conclusion of Saturday's.

the

however,

It

It is common talk that Knute Hansen is anxious for a fight and

is possible that a heavy-weight will be forthcoming to give him a run for his money." Provided the public are prepared to support the Association as generously an they did on Saturday, the financial difficulty of the question should not prove difficult to overcome.

JUNK CAPSIZES.

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Whatever answers may be given scheme is due to the return to it will lower British prestige in realise what qualifications I have the Association so far had reached

the East. Such a thing, must for writing. But undergraduates no decision in the matter. to this question, such as petition- power of the Conservatives is no ing the Council, emphatically the more logical than the inference never be allowed! Far better are different from school boys appears, however, that the Associa only in one respect, they are a bit tion are not opposed to a return that the base at Singapore signi- close the University! methods adopted should not

It has never been generally older, and some have wives and match being staged under their fies hostility to Japan.

realised that students are caged children. The married under auspices, although the matter has include violating the regulations

under iron bars, shut windows and graduates should cultivate severe not yet been brought forward as a protest against their severity.

barred doors termed a Hostel, and discipline to resist sinister home officially, have to eat on tables covered by influences. Yes, discipline must Indeed, if anything, the students

patched and dirty table-cloths, be made so severe for them that should take special pains to

served with broken cups and they would obey their wives at comply with discipline, for then

Christmas letter mail for the plates, and subjected to the most home. For the other lot who are they will show they are fit to have United Kingdom will be closed in tyrannical whim and fancy that like school children, being bache is absolutely more freedom, not merely na-"aons the G. P. O. at 930 am, on the human mind of a Warden can lors, discipline

For breaking hostel of gentlemen," but as gentlemen Wednesday. This mail is due in conceive. But there are, we must essential.

admit, good wardens and bad rules they ought not to be fined, London on December 21. themselves.

wardens.

We do not they ought to be birched, and con- intend as you may realise to fined to their cubicles without prejudice the case before the being given their supper. It will Complicated Legal Isaura,

hiversity Council has met. You at least strengthen their soul if A Chief Justice in a land whose

might not have realised it when not their physique, so that they tongue and customs are strange

writing the editorial but we will will be able to endure hardships any this, the basis of the case is, in later life. With regard to to him is bound to encounter

whether a group of students manners they must be made to many special difficulties-Sir

--The Court Martial of Con- deserves to be treated like human doff their hats and bow low to pro-

A creditable early morning' Henry Cowper Gollan since his arrival in the Colony a few weeks munists, at Reval, mentioned on beings and the sons of gentlemen fessors and lecturers, so that after ago in that capacity has experi-November 11, has sentenced to or without consideration. It is to their graduation they may become rescue of eight men struggling in Then the the sea, just outside Captuimun, enced not a few. In the absence death the Communist ex-deputy be regretted that you cannot be perfect gentlemen. from the Colony of Me Eldon Temp for insulting the court and supplied with detailed facts con- name of their university will be was reponed this morning to the Ng Chau, master of the trading Potter, K.C., pending cases in delivering a seditious speech dur-cerning the case as it is not desir-proclaimed to the four corners of Harbour Office.

able to prejudice the mind of the the world, and the graduates will original jurisdiction have been ing the trial.

public in favour of the students walk as if the whole world belongs junk T4530H, reported that at held up and the Chief Justice's Leopoldo Guerrero, aged, de- before the University Council to them and the undergraduates about 2 am, yesterday, while Sarcasm always adding zest to court altiing time has been puty for Zacutecas, who was have had a chance of re-investi- as if the whole world belongs to under way from Sa Kon Fat to an argument, we have enjoyed, occupied in helping Mr. Justice wounded in the affray in the gating into the whole matter. nobody. Such, then, will be the Quarry Bay he "tacked when past Capsufnun. When the sail really enjoyed reading the letters Gompertz in the relief of congest-Chamber of Deputies on November An University belongs to the result of discipline.

filled, the current cased tus jnk In after life, if I am not misto roil and it listed and sank in from "Justice" and "M. Ted Summary cases. Even in the 13, has died from his injuries, students. It is formed by the BEYTAGH-On November 12," Barrell” published in this issue, hearing of these it was Inevitable | Deputy Luis Morones is reported] blood of their blood and the soul taken, they will be conquerors deep water.

"M. T. Barrell's" letter is parti- that Sir Henry should experience to be rapidly recovering, according of their soul. They give it life, after the type of Samusi Smiles

difficulty at first, particularly into a cable from Mexico City.

inspiration and ideals. They heroes-disciplinarians and self- that in spite of the strong wind mould it into a living form of made millionaires. Cularly engaging, and we should regard to Chinese names.

"A message from Khartum human knowledge and endeavour. 'I beg to acknowledge myself as like to reply in the same ironical court smiled and the Chief Justice atrain, only experience teaches us with it when, addressing a witness states that the Mudirs Court has The professors and lecturers are a warm supporter of S.M.I. being ing junk T. 1670 H. managed to

recently with some hesitation, he sentenced twenty eight civilian that sarcasm so often leads an asked if it was always safe to call cadets,-who participated in the but shadows that pass in the akin to him in many things, sisting of eight. argument into irrelevancy. Now Chinese by the first pronounced disorders at the military school on night; some who achieve fame especially in the vacuity of my tion. An University may be understanding. In other things I we are specially anxious that the syllable as surname. Sir Henry August 9, to eight years' imprison- are only the guests of a genera- mind and the sameness of my ment Up to the present there

British, French, American, or am not as bad as I sound, and not present argument should be kept until this morning had been has been no sign of disturbances

Yours etc., MILLS-OLSEN. On October entirely free from irrelevancy, not spared the task of unravelling though the sentences are widely German, in character but it na empty.

complicated landlord v. tenants

belongs to the students studying

M. T. HARRELL 25, at the Union Church, because we are bent solely upon cases

in it. The graduates of the

Hongkong, November 16. -Chungking, by the Rov: G. W. vindicating our own contentiona,pretations of clauses of the

A public reception with the University have to live under the

The tie for the St. John of Sparling, Thelma Margaret but because, we are Jealous for the Rents Ordinance in relation to presentation of white banness of reflected glory that the Univer

"Among the Audiónce" also Jerusalem Trophy, under tho Olsen, elder daughter of the University's good name. That is them. In the probate case now welcome was arranged la honour sity casts and if the University is late Capt. R. T. Olsen and why we ignore the patrician acorn before him, however, he will be of Dr. Sun Yat-sen upon his arrival disgraced the future careers of

called upon to decide points which in Shanghai, The" Chinese Preas" its graduates will be marred. We sends a letter upon this subject auspices of the Royal Hongko Mra: Margaret Olsen, of of "Justice" for editors who comer. Potter asid in his opening had reported that the welcome was plead therefore, that irresponsible but our invariable rule compels Golf Club, was played of Shanghai, to Henry William to the East for the nefarious pure been shirked before, presumably being organized at the offices of the scribblers give the students ads to hold it over until he sends Fanling yesterday and resulted as

his name and addreen not neces follows:

(G. GAStark 1781 - 8-73 «TA. H. Alekander 84 - 7 –17 Milla, eldest son of the late } pose of earning a living; why we on account of the complicated National Students, Union and that chance to build their. Liniverslojnarily," for publication but, as-el

destroyers of their own future, at guarantee of good faith, Mr. and Mrs Mills, London, decline to be drawn into a redz mature of the issues involved. It some Chinese labour and other before eandem them Brigland.

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