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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1928.

THE BUDGET.

SPEECH BY SIR HENRY POLLOCK, K.C.

REPLIES OF OFFICIALS.

In the "China Mai?" fast evening were printed the specches or all the Unofficial Members delivered at the Legislative Council, with the exception of that of Sir Henry Pellock, K.C., which is given below together with the speeches of the official members.

SIR HENRY POLLOCK.

Sir Henry said:-Sir, I have.

Malaria.

I think that those of

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on the 1st January. I may say, licence wante one naturally for this Sir, that the Folice Department la Contral district, the Eastern or at present responsible for 30 Western districts or Yaumati, different kinds of licences, somewhere be would do a much bigger of which, such as ricshaand Business A ikivers' licences, represent 12,000:|

Some Figures.

which the lights are to be placed,

nt not in all cases,

Hon. Mr. Bird.mudo some co- marks about compensation and

bfifications.

The modifications most frequently

'to 15,000 or even more licences? A few figures may be of interest.granted relate to Section 180 of the That in just one item, but I under-1 1019-20 there were 7.397 Public Health and Building Onlin sland that the hon. membor merely hawlors, liconeas, in 1920-21 there ance; but, servanging lanes and referred to what he called Euro-Were 7161, in 1921-22 there were allowed to count as open space on pean licences. I would like to 7,885, in 1922-23 there were 8.487. eondition that no compensation. point out that at the present time and for the year which closed on paid therefor. If these indifles. dog and arms licences are already the 1st September last we issued tions were not granted the amount issued on the 1st January, as are 8.189, so it we are practically of compensation payable by the also private vehicle licences, such issing a little over a thousand Government would be very large. as private rieshas and private more now than we were in 1919-20. It seems surd to consider the Another point of general inter-chaire, which are the only ones A large number of persons wishing suggestion that modification should that affect Europeans. As re- to apply for hawkers' licences are be granted and compensation paid had the privilege, of reading the est is the question of malaria. Asgards motors, which is the only not so much boys na persons who in addition. Several modifications you are well aware, Sir, the num-other serious item to consider lave fled from the interior of of Section 188 of the Public Health speech which my honourable ber of cases in the Colony in the under this head, there are roughly Chins and who do not know what and Building Ordinance have re friend representing the Chamber year 1923 was in excess of those 1,500 cars and lorries in the to do, when they get here. They cantly leen granted, allowing the of Commerce has just given to the in 1922. and although it has been Colony now, and 500 cycles. apply for harkera licences; we rection of bulidings more than 76 Council. I may say that I agree it is due to the Importation of the drivers, of whom not more than for the streets would be impassable than four storeys. The usual con- suggested that to a certain extent There are rather more than 2,000 cannot possibly accommodate them, feet in height and containing more

Aditions upon which such modifies entirely with what has fallen from Chinese regiment from Welhaiwel, ten per cent. are European. It if we endeavoured to do so. him. I shall, in the remarks I do not think that that explana would be extremely difficult to regards the outlying districts, notions are issued include the follow- have no make, break into new tion by any means covers the facts after the dates which are at pre-fixed number is laid down, but we ing

(1)--Frontage line to be set luck if matter, which he has not alrealy of the ease.

necessary to widen the the licensing staff in the Police granted in the populous districts.

street. dealt with, and naturally. Str, in, us who live on the Penk are wellent arranged in order to enable must restrict the number of liconcor aware that the prevalence of mos-Office to deal with the various

Public Works.

(2)- Frontage line to be set back looking for matters for comment

The Director of Public Works : to widen the footpath if a verandal and criticism we must in the first quitoes around Mount Kellett.ifferent kinds of licences they

Were itir, the hon. member representing over Cown land is permitted. instance lonk to Public Workspecially on the south and west have to deal with.

sides, is still very great, and we possible to lasue European motor The Chamber of Commerce referred (3)--Scavenging lane at the rent", Extraordinary. The first iten

submit that the Government ligences separately that would to the speeding up of work as reto he provided. which wish to refer to is with should take more drastic measures certainly quite easily be done, but gards the passing of plans by the A small open, space to b regard to the new Fire Brigade than they have already done with to, issite all motor licences on the P. W. D. Wmva experienced provided at the ground level for the Station. The original estimate is

a view to exterminating mas-

1st January would be certainly great difficulty in obtaining archi-purpose of drinnge, etc. stated to have been $1,110,000, quitoes in that district. Coming very much more difficult. On the tects, but the Buildings Ordinance -All storeys intended to be! the revised estimate $1,450,000. The approved estimate for 1924 is the north side of the hill, there whate I suggest that the present Office staff is now up to strength. used for domestic habitation to be are nullahs under the Peak tram system be allowed to remain. The number of plans at present in provided with open space maerord. $300,000, the revised estimate of lines that certainly require to be particularly in view of the fact this office which have not yet been ance with Section 170 of the Publiq expenditure for 1924 is $100,000. drained in the interests of public that in the case of motor cars dealt with is approximately 180, Tth and Building Ordinance. and the estimate of expenditure health.

100 awaiting amend individual notices are sent to with about

(0)-Baildings to be of res Tay add inforced for 1925, $600,000. In connection

conerote constructions, with this work, which has hung Kowloon foothills, we have an should be sufficient.

Now, crossing the harbour to

owners. Surely that, I think,ments by architects.

that if architects submitted plans throughout fire for some time. there has been instance where there is a great

which complied with the Ordin- laid upon the table of the Council isk of fever, and I have no hesita

ance, there would not be the delay just now a paper, No. 11 of 1924. tion in particularly mentioning

in passing plans which at present with reference to the Fire Station,this districts because of the fact

Mechanical filtration has been but I must confess that that paper that enormous developments have does not seem to me to be suff-been going on there at the foot of ciently explanatory of the posi- the hills.

it does not seem to me that what

matters further.

a ricaha.

so bad.

We have to

(7)--Fire escapes to be provided to the satisfaction of the Buiding Authority and the Captain Supern tendent of Police,

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The Colonial Secretary: I would

Scales of Fares. " Whilst on the subject of vehicles I might refer to the ques-exists. tion raised with regard to the scale of fares. The fares were referred to.

(8)-Fire-fighting appliances to That, as you know, provided to the satisfaction of f considered by the Committee Rir. is being introduced and ovey the Captain Superintendent of which Was undertaking the effort will be made to speed up the Police. tion. That papër refers to a con- We have the new Kowloon Hos-

These conditions appear to me to tract which was made for some pital not far off from the old road revision of traffic regulations in order of these filters. Tenders are

1921: The fares were then in-now out, work on the 11th July this year, which in the old days divided our creased and a similar Committee from England to the Colony. It is retrograde step to modify them in some are on their way he reasonable and it would be a It does not in any way explain territories from those of China, met again this year to revise the hoped that when a few-where the any way. what was being done last year. It and we have also the Kowloon traffic regulations once more, and cases suit of the best mechanical does not explain who put in that Tong scheme for housing a num-

are introduced, the relief

Hon. Mr. C. Mcl. Messer: Sir, original estimate for the Fire ber of people of all races. We after careful consideration they filters Brigade Station of $1.110,000 and have big building developments at came to the conclusion that na given to the ordinary slow and the hon. member made

really useful purpose would be filters will overcome our great dif- remarks with regard to the it does not explain who it was or Sham Shui Po, and also big served by increasing them at the firullies, which ut prosent exist in Widows and Orphans' Fund. under what Director the sum of developments in the neighbour-time. I admit that at the time rushing beds where inadequate. I think he is under a misapprehen- $100,000 was expected this year.hood of Kowloon City.

they bed no Chinese member to

The hon. member representing in as to how it is worked. In fact it leaves a good deal to be Government's Responsibilities. imagined by this Council. I

Well Sir, there can be no doubt /assist them with information on the Justices of the Peace referred many years there was a separate should like to know what happen- that in the interests of all these the subject, and I should certainly to the delay, in regard to the Fire investment fund kept for these con- ed with regard to the previous various classes and races it is could be given with, a

be glad if any such information Nation. This delay is very much tributions in payment of pensions. view to regretted, but it is inavoidable. For various reasons that system contract and why it is that

imperative that the Government showing whether it is really neces

An explanation has been submitted was altered and, now contributions nothing was done as regards should take drastic steps to sary to increase the fares. At the up to the end of September, and from the members are paid into a inviting tenders for this work'

exterminate as far as possible the present time the coolies them the last report I have just received Government account, while the until July of this year. I assume that there has been an original anopheles mosquito, which, I have selves have made no representa says that progress during October Government takes over all habili

been assured by Dr Woodman,

tions. They are not slow in doing some improvement during the last member also expressed the opinion estimate and a revised estimate. lately in the service

was still very poor-There was ties of paying pensions. The bon of this and that the original estimate was ony, abounds in various pools a through their No. 1 if they few days, but there were still fin- that many officers thought the pen- given by one party and the revised along that line of foothills. I lay to the Captain Superintendent of the contractor, would not pay sally the amount of pension depends have any representation to make ncial troubles, which meant that sion inadequate. Of course, natur- by another, but as I say, Sir, even special emphasis upon this point Police, and as regards the Chinese workmen, with the explanation on the paper because it does not seem to me they usually bargain on the scale improve during the next week or I have not yet heard that officers If progress does not on the nount of contribution, and we have before the Council to-day, that we have got any particular of faree and it does not affect two, it may be necessary to take wish to contribute on a higher has happened is sufficiently ex-department in this Colony which them so much. They usually the work out of the contructor's wale. The calendation of pensions

takes upon itself this question of plained. No doubt the Govern- dealing with malarial or other make a bargain before they take land.

move very and contributions was worked out ment will be able to explain mosquitoes, I think the Govern. As regards the protection of the whole thing to a standstill. The which these pensions are taken out. warily we are afraid of bringing by an actuary. The tables from ment should recognise that it is khas daring bad weather. it song are a most independent were made by an-eminent actvary A Suggestion.

their responsibility to take steps came soniewhat as a surprise to me body of meng

at Home on the very best figures, His Excellency: Might I suggest to see that pools or running water, to find the aprons were

Public Health.

then available Since that time to the hon. member that it would where anopheles are likely to The ricshms with their aprons are perhaps be more convenient if he breed, should be effectively dealt examined no less than once a quaro: member and the senior Chin account of remarriage, and

Refereure was also made by the concessions have been given on dealt with individual points when with, either by putting oil over ter at the Central Police Station.

ese-member to Pokfulum. It is account of children, and in the last? the Bill comes before the Com-them or by nullahs or by such They are brought up fully regretted that the Pokfulian reser 25 years some 25 per cent. has been mittee and when we can explain measures as the M.OH. recom- equipped with their two coolies, vuit became silted up owing to the added to all pensions. If the hon.

menda for efficiently dealing with who have to be in uniform. more fully.

They work being done on Stubbs Road, member would like are inspected by the Traffic Inspec- but every effort is made to inter-special case before me I shall be Sir Henry Pollock: Yes, Sir, the evil.

I notice, Sir, in the P.C.M.O.'s tor, and all the aprons, as well as There are a number of items in

The cust- marked improvement.

Colonial Secretary. Public Works Extraordinary that report for last year, that a num- the tops in the case of chairs, have et drainage and there is now a glad to show how that case stanīts. I wish to refer to, but I will follow ber of young children were admit-all to bear the number of the paren filter beds will come to the your Excellency' intimation and ted to the Victoria Hospital suffer- ticular riesha, so that it should be assistance of that part of the rowu.like to refer to various remarks of will now deal with matters noting from a form of malarial fever, difficult to substitute old ones after | These filter beds are to be brought hon. members in connection with Estimates that have not relating to special items in the I think generally there is great they have left the Police

risk, that unless the Government pound. However, in view of the into operation next month-a cer-the

already been dealt with. In the With regard to malaria, the speech of the hon, member who re- take strong measures for the remarks of the hon. member, I protain portion of them. With reference, Sh, to the ques checking of malaria we shall find pose to look into that matter forth mosqutices on the south and west presented the Chamber of Con tion of typhoid, I have spoken & it constantly on the increase in with.

ide of Mount Kellett and the inerce, he expressed the hope that good deal with my honourable the Colony.

Hawkers

Bullahs of the Peak tramway have the remainder of the typhoon broys friend who represents the Cham-

P.W.D. Staff,

With regard to the question had our attention. The difficulties would be completed in ample time. ber of Commerce on the matter of

concerning.. I am very glad indeed to see,raised

hawkers met with are that contractors will for their possible need next year. rapid mechanical filtration, and Sir, that the Government have licences, by the senior member rehot work on such minor work. I think a reference was made to I would certainly very strongly been very courageous in this presenting the Chinese community, live been assisted by a prominent that quite recently in connection | RE urge that such mechanical filtra- Budget In regard to the increase this question of restricting the member of this Council in that with a vote for a certain number tion should be put into operation of the staff of the P.W.D. In this number of hawkers licences came respect, and a contract has been let of buoys. It was said that it was at the earliest possible moment. Council for more years past than up for discussion some four years for the draining of the nullahs. hoped to complete them not later In connection with the possible I care to remember, I have con- ago. At that time the hawkere Tr. Woodman's report has been than July next year. question of pollution of the water, stantly been urging upon the licences had been reduced to some-studied by the Departoient, and the The position with regard to pub I would draw attention to the fact Government that public works where in the neighbourhood of areas which are must affected and is telephones was also referred to that there are a great number of could not be speedily or efficiently 6,000. Ab the request of the then reported on as being affected by not very long ago, and it was bo rehe effect that there were proposala building operations going on in carried out without an increase of senior member, the late Mr. Lan the anopheles mosquitoes are different parts of the Colony, and staff, but until this Budget was Clau-pak, I went into the matter reiving attention by various depart locally for forming a company ta it certainly seems to me and the produced I have always been very carefully and it was decided mente drainage and public works take over the property of the exist point has been represented to me assured that the Government was to do two things, one, to divide With regard to the remark of the ing company and to make all necen- by others that not nearly suffi-making quite sufficient increase of the hawkers into two classes the hon. senior Chinese member as tosary improvenients, and the whole. stall-bolder hawker, who in the the colour of the water, I am afraid question has been held over until cient attention is paid to the staff and that I was really asking stationary hawker, and the itiner chlorination does not alter it and the return of certain gentlemen ta matter of latrine accommodation for a bigger staff than was ant hawker, and also increase the it must be laid to the charge of the Colony. I think it should be for the coolies employed on these warranted by the case. I am very number as far as possible, also re-raine filtration, which, we hopo, possible to proceed very shortly different works. I think, Sir, with glad to see that they have come serving certain hawkers' stalls for will be improved.

how with the consideration as to regard to the Folfulum reservoir, to the view in this budget that deserving cases. That, I think, Hon. Mr. Holyoak: I should whether the Colony, will take over that it is not unreasonable to sup- this increase in staff is necessary the Secretary of Chinese Affairs call it want of Bitration.

the existing company.... pose that some of the contamina-This, as I say, has been constantly will agree. have carried out as

Lighting.

With regard to fares for chaira tion, which I understand has been urged, not only by myself but by far as possible whenever a deserv

and ricahas, and vehicles, I must ascertained to exist in that reser-other Unofficial members of the ing cass is brought to my notice. The Director of Public Works say I am in agreement with the voir during the past summer, has Council for many years past... We also endeavour to provide stall The Hon. Mr. Bird asked for in- senior Chinese inember and I been due to the fact that coolien. With reference to the need of Holders' lioendes, as these stalls are formation with regard to the should like to see the minimum fárk have been at work on the new speeding up public works, the really remunerative. They pay 82 scheme of lighting Such a increased to 10 cents. The subject motor road between the Old Unofficials have contended for a month and they seem to do very scheme dose not exist and we are has been considered and the gen Homestead and the Peak Hospital. many years past and been trying well As regards the total number gradually introducing it. At the enl view was that, although the In mentioning this point, I should to persuade the Government that of hawkers, I think anyone going present time, the number of blee- minimum fare of five dents is also like to suggest, in regard to we must have a really big stand the Chinese portion of the frie lights in Hongkong in 423 and allowed, it is practically a univer the many catchwaters being con- to grapple with the increasing city will notice we do not arr on the the number of gus lamps 1,567. sal custom for persons going on structed in this Colony that it in work of the Colony, I have other file of having too few in the Installation of high power lights in iourneys to pay 10 cents. Person very casential that steps be taken comments to make in Committee street in the Eastern and West being provooded with both an ally should have great beatation to see that the matshods of the upon Items under Public Works en districts of Hongkong and in Hongkong and Kowloon every year, in thinking there are a great many coolies, and particularly their extraordinary.

Vamman the streets are or fall on and in the main roada especially in people who do not pay ten centa, latrines, should be below the Official Replies.

they can be with hawkers. We the City. The Hongkong Gas but it is the custom of Chinese ta catchwaters on which they are The Hon. Captain Superinten over ratuse linerant licences to order. It is hoped that these will the legal fare. At any rate, Tam cannot have anymore there. We Company has suspended rights. on inske a bargain and pay less than working and not above them dent of Folico Sir, the question hawkers in outlying districts, but be introduced shortly. The light in entire agreement with the Clin do not know whether that point was raised by the thon

tha Centrul district, wo must ing of the various roads and streble co senior member that some tin has received attention in the past, representing the Chan

fily curtail the mmber of in usually given to the company,ereas should be made and that the but I hope it will receive attention Commerce of Police Day)

bolders and itinerant hawkers, electrical or gas, having existing minimum fare should be 10 cents. in the future.

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