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CONSERVATIVE MOTION OF CENSURE.

PREMIER EXPLAINS ACTION.

CONTROVERSY OVER. "WORKERS' WEEKLY."

(Reuter's Service.)

LONDON, October 8.

¦

ATTACK ON GOVERNMENT.

MR.

DANGAMPBELL'S ALLEGATIONS.

BALWIN'S ARMY POLICY"

UTBURST AT LABOUR CONFERENCE.

(Reuter's Service.)

LONDON, October 8.

There is complete uncertainty with regard to {- At the Labour Conference, Mr. Campbell, the procedure and outcome of to-night's momentous editor, of the "Workers' Weekly" attacked the debate, which Sir Robert Home opers by moving Labour Government la connection with military the Conservative motion: "That the conduct of expenditure and the alleged use of troops in Government in relation to the institution and, sub- industrial, dispotes. He asserted the Government sequent withdrawal of criminal proceedings, against had continued Baldwin's army policy the editor of the Workers' Weekly, is deserving of censure."

Sir Patrick Hastings, KC, the Attomes General, will reply immediately, The Ministerialists are confident he will present such a strong case that it will be difficult for the Liberals_to_move_the amendment mentioned on October 3.

If it is moved by Sir John Simon, a Liberal back-bencher may move to amend the amendment, In order to make the enquiry judicial instead of parliamentary. This may lead to an adjournment of the debate.

The feverish examination of tactical moves at present proceeding among all parties, makes it impossible to say whether the first division will be vital...

A decisive vote is expected between II 15 p.m. and 11.30 p.m.

"FREMIER'S GREETING.

"Go to the country now," shouted the Labour. ites, when Mr. Ramsay MacDonald entered the crowded and excited House of Commons.

Sir Patrick Hastings, the Attomey-General, entered earlier and was also cheered by the Ministerialists.

PARTY FEELING SHOWN.

Party feeling was early evident, The Liberat, Major-General J. E. Seely, suggested inconsistency in a certain reply made by Mr. Arthur Ponsonby, Under Secretary for Foreign Affairs. The latter demurred and the opposition angrily shouted. "answer."

This evoked a Labourite counter-cry of "Go and talk to Churchill,"

The Liberals were most active in questioning Mr. John Wheatley, Minister of Health, was stung into retorting to a question, put by Sir John Simon, that he could only give facts not guide his intelligence.

Mr. C. F. Masterman jeered at Mr. Pringle, who was shouted down when he mentioned the

Russian Loan.

PREMIER EXPLAINS, Before Sir Robert Horte rose to move the vote of censure, Mr. Ramsay MacDonald explained his answer of last week that, the Cabinet had not been consulted on the subject of the "Workers' Weekly" prosecution due to a misunderstanding. **

The Attorney General did report the whole -matter, which left his hands..

Sir Robert Horne had only uttered a few words when he was interrupted by ministerial laughter.

The Speaker rose and made clear that he intended all parties should be properly heard.

Mr J. R. Clynes repiled, denouncing the curious mentality which advocated pacifism at this conference, but outside appealed to the workers to build up an army in view of class denomination. (Cheers). The matter was dropped after Mr Clyres, had spiritedly defended the Government's policy as regards armaments.

Mr.

General to come and tell them about the case. MacDonald then expressed the view that a prosecution once launched should not be withdrawn except, for express 'reasons: but as responsibility rested with the Attorney-General the matter was left there; and thereafter he had nothing to do with the case. Opinions expressed in the Cabinet were not by way of giving Instructions. They had not his sole consideration had been that the Communist originated from personal or party consideration; Party ought not to be countenanced by the Government.

must, in all fairness, give Government a satisfac

He was prepared to continue but the House.

motion was a straightforward motion of non-con- tory measure of confidence. The Opposition fidence. If that was the mind of the House, let it say so (Loud ministerial cheers). The Liberale' amendment was very unfair. It had a large amount of meanness. (Lond ministerial cheers). If either then Government would go. (Loud ministerial censure motion or liberal amendment were passed,

cheers)...

1. That would be the end of the high adventure the honour of the country and its social stability, of a Government which had contributed much to and when the country had the opportunity of giving its verdict thereon, it would come again. (Ministerial cheers)

MR. ASQUITH'S CONTENTION. Mr. H. H. Asquith contended that the Libers) amendment was strickly in accord with precedent appolated to enquire into the Jameson Raid; also He quoted the case of the select committee

the enquiry into the Marconi affair. The Liberals were not wedded to any particular form of investigation. If a select committee was appointed, the Liberals would not ask for a place on it; so there should be no suggestion that it was a packed fury. The suggested alternative of a Judicial Commission was not satisfactory. It would meas endless delay, but the Liberals did not object to any practical alternative to select a committee; but investigation should be held immediately!"

· STORM IN A TEACUP.

Whilst the debate In the House proceeded on Sir Robert continued that no more grievous party lines, there were rumours of efforts being blow could be strick at our civilisation than that made behind the scenes to arrange a compromise the Law Courts should, in any wise, be manipulated on the basis of some kind of enquiry as hinted by for party reasons as this Government had done. Mr. Asquith (Opposition Cheers),

STATEMENT BY ATTORNEY-GENERAL

Sir Patrick Hastings, the Attorney-General, said he did not intend to apologise, because if he had to decide again, he would not alter his decision one iota.

He explained that when the case was first sube raitted to him, Mr Campbell's name was tot mentioned. It was Mr. James Maxton, who gave him the information, regarding Mr. Campbell's position and character..

He added that later MacDonald had intimated that the prosecution should never have been lu stiluted, but he (the Attorney-General) himself had decided on the withdrawal, as eriquiries Indicated it would fall. Not a living soul, except the Ministers Mr. Maxton and the legal authorities saw him. In connection with the matter, from the beginning to the end.

The Cabfuct had not interfered with his decision: he never met a Communist in his life. He concluded by offering to show any member any document and give any information. One suming his seat he was ovated by the Ministeria

liste.

THE LIBERAL AMENDMENT.

* MA.T.P. O'Connor, who described the whole affair as a miserable little tempest in the tiniest tea- cup ever produced in political life, moved the adjournment of the debate in order to consider the

situation

Mr. Stanley Baldwin, however, said the Conservatives could not support any motion of adjournment

The Govemment hoped to defeat the Conserva-- tives by Liberal votes, and the Liberals by Conservative votes; but the Conservatives were not the whole of their support to the Liberal golog to be duped. Therefore, they would give Amendment. (Loud ministerial laughter.)

Mr. O'Connor' then withdraw hla rabtion, Mr. J. H Thomas ridiculed the Conservatives running away from their own vote of censtre, because they feared the Liberals were about to ran away. (Loud ministerial cheers).

LIBERAL AMENDMENT CARRIED.

Mr. Thomas said if the Liberal amendment was

carried, it was necessary steps be taken to accept it as the verdict of the House, but only the verdict of the House. The ministerialists refused to allow the conservatives to drop the vote of censure to vote for the Liberal amendment. So a division was taken to decide whether the House would Sir John Simon moved the Liberal amendment #diylde on, the vote of censure, or the Libetal He said the Attorney-General seemed to think the amendment.

The serious question merely affected himself.

The division resulted by 359-198 in favour of question was the responsibility of the Ministers, voting on on the amendment which was then carried It was now clear that an enquiry was necessary in by 364-198. On the motion of the Premier, the order to discover the extent to which the Attornyhouse then adjourned until to-morrow, General's superiors had attempted to Influence hist 'mind...

PAST PRECEDENTS.

LATER

The Liberal amendment was carried by 364 votag to 198 Disrólution will follow.

AN INTENTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. §.

Mr. MacDonald to morrow will state the Government's intentions.

Mr. MacDonald argued that, in the past, opinions of the Attorney-General had been influenced and even altered by the executive. Ho

The spacch of Mr. Thomas was interpreted as said: there was not a particle of evidence or, shadow of justification for Sir John Simon'a suggee Clearly indicating Government would not resign, tion that Ministers had interfered improperly. He but would appeal to the country by categorically deuled Sir John Simon's suggestion The minority in the vital division was compos that dropping the prosecution was connected with ed of 182 Labourites, 2 Conservatives, 2 National- the Russian Tracy negotiations. The two questions, iste, Xz Liberals, including Mra Margaret were never considered in relation to each other Wistingham, MA 1. M. Hoggo and. Commander The government was determined is far

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