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FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 7, 1928,

HOTEL DRINK CHITS.

SHOULD THEY BE BANNED ?

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL DEBATE.

PRESENT LAW TO REMAIN.

One of the East's eternal problems, the chit system was interest ingly discussed in the Legislative Council yesterday when, as briefly reported, in last night's China Mail, the Hon. Mr. H. E. Pollock K.C. moved the following motion which had for its object the repeal of that section of the Liquor Ordinance which prevents the signing of chits for drinks in hotels:--

"That is the opinion of the members of this Council, it is desirable that section 3 of the Liquors Ordinance, 1917, should be repealed."

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of the hotel I happen to be a Dir- ector of, to fulfil the law; and I think they have proved it, but I know that, under the present law, it is almost impossible to do so.

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TO-DAY'S ADVERTISEMENTS.

UNIVERSITY, OF HONGKONG,

MATRICULATION, SENIOR LOCAL AND JUNIOR LOCAL EXAMINATIONS.

an enactment that would close the Club har during certain hours of the day. Well, Sir, with due defer- ence, at that time, I submitted that there was no necessity for it; that there was no case made out what- ever. Indeed, as Chairman of the Club at that time I knew that the money which was being spent at

The Colonial Secretary: As late the bar was an extremely small as an hour ago, Sir, I had not sum, and there was no justification the intention of speaking on this

NOTICE 18 HEREBY GIVEN that for the arguments then presented. motion. I do so with some diffid-N the above Examinations will However, in deference to His Ex-ence and with no overwhelming begin on MONDAY, November 19th, cellency's wishes, the matter was conviction. But I have had con- 1923. Forms of entry and copios of put before the Hongkong Club siderable experience of the work-Regulations and Syllabus can re

and unanimouslying of the chit system) and perhaps Committee turned down at that time. I am in a position to sound a word obtained on application to the Registrar. El Entry form, duly filled in, must Later this proposed Ordinance of warning us to the possible re-

laid before the Council, sults. I have been looking up the reach the Registrar together with the

was present, when Mr. Shewan September as followe:- "Unjustifiable and Unnecessary report of the Council, at which statutory four on or before the 15th

I regret that at that time I said: I cannot compare myself Matriculation and Senior Local

Fxaminations... 815 1.K. Currancy. happened to be absent through ill-) with the Hon. Mr. Dodwell and health in Japan, and was wonble to the Hon. Mr. Pollock in most things Junior Local Examination oppose it as vigorously as I would but of one thing I know as much as

810 H.K. Currency. Candidates offering more than savan The Hon. Mr. Pollork said :-

what is to happen there? People have done had I been present, they do, and that is the question of This section, Sir, as 1 think is

hun. members, go out there in dance. Very often mainly and principally upon the drinking in bars." I do not claim subjects in the Matriculation and grounds that it was an unnecessary that advantage over the honourable Senior Local Examinations, and more well-known to

Junior Local provides that, except in the case they dine there before they dance, interference at that time unjust member who has moved this than eight in the

or, as I have done myself-you of persons who are residing in an unter, it is necessary that cash dance with your dianer, or, in the table and unnecessary with the motion, but I do claim to have had Examination, will be charged an addi shall be paid down in respect of worts of the Ordinance, "in con- Courty, of the subject in this a wide experience with this chit tional fee of $1. for each subject an ang liquor which is not served injunction with your dinner. If Colony, but I was ably represented system. My first introduction to it offered."

The following Scholarships and conjunction with a hout-fide me you want to give your guests aby the honourable member who was in my undergraduate days for which acharge of not less than drink you have to start again with was then acting for me, the Hon. in Oxford when I preferred 2s, 3d. Prizes, further particulars of which can 30 cunts can be reasonably made this cash business. This clause is Mr. Stanley Dowell, who made a for a tin of Craven tobacco and be obtained from the Registent, will

strong speech against the proposed was met with the request that I when When this measure was passed in particularly inconvenient this Council in the year 1917 it was hotel proprietors have to deal with enactment. We were distinctly should put my money back in my Marioniation Examination

of the Lina native staff, and is, perhaps, also told by His Excellency the Gove pocket and have it put down in the opposed by some official Members, including my-inconvenient when they have to or at that time that the object of book. That was when I was eigh- in deal with rather peppery customers the Bill was not to stop drinking, teen years old. I thought it was self. The first speaker

ification whatever for passing the opposition was Mr. Stanley Dorl who do not see why they should and, failing that, there was no just- well, wher poimed out very clearly he cumpelled to produce coin as a

law. It was essentially, if there nn necessity for certificate of good faith. that there was such a measure: that, as a matter

any justification for it, R war measure. It was part

It

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One has heard, Sir, a suggestion was of fact, for some years past the male that juniors in firms are of the D.O.K.A. Act at Home. | il desire, sariety of the men in this Colony allowed large credit, or 100 large had been steadily increasing, and credit, in the hotels. That point I may add that a similar remark will be dealt with by my hon, perhaps a sentimental desire, to may be applied to the interval friend Mr. Hoiyonk, who will share in the sacrifices we all shared which has elapsed between the second this notion, and I think he at Home, and, through the sacri- war charities which passing of the Ordinance in 1917 will say that there is a considerable fices, perhaps contribute more When this restriction placed upon clerks in largely to

existed in this Colony, and and the present day. measure, Sir, was brought forward firms not only for drinks but in

respect to expenditure generally to national needs. But honourable I had a difficulty and the same difficulty I experience to-day In in the hotel. As I suggested at members of the Council and your

Vehicles are hereby notified seeing what possible good the time this Ordinance was intro- Excellency, through having perus-OWNERS and DRIVERS of Motor useful object such a measure could duced, Sir, it seems to me, that this the records of this Colony since

Garden Road from its junction with At that epistation is practically useless. you arrived, will agree, I think, that, on and after the 5th Inst., be expected to serve. net bring forward any reasons for the passing of this particular clause of the Liquors Ordinance, but left it to the hon. Colonial Secretary, SiCkud Severa, to expound the reasons

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meeting the Attorney-General did i I do not honestly see that it could i that in no part of the Empire were | MacDonnell Road and Robinson set at paat Exuminations,

Sir Claud's Bag of Chits. O that necasion that hon. member produced a bag of chits for a sun of about three thousand dollars for drinks which had been served at a wayside hotel the North Point Hotel, which has

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war charities more substantially have any real effect. It seems to me an attempt, and a somewhat and fully supported than in this petty attempt, to interfere with the Colony, and that no part of the internal management of the hotels world, so far as the British Empire in this Colony.. I said just now it goes, and certainly not here, could is absolutely ludicrous to suppose an accusation of excessive drinking that, if a young man unfortunately be made. There was no justifica- takes to drink, this clause in the i tion at all for passing the Ordin-

CHINA COAST OFFICERS GUILD. If it W.S a war Ordinance will save him, for, apart Race.

there is the more

MARINE ENGINEERS' GUILD from the hotel, you have places measure

OF CHINA. like clubs, and other places to reason for repealing it at the pre- which I need not more particularly sent moment, because the justifica-· refer, where men can get drinks tion for it, if there was any, no

ERAL MEETING of Shareholders A be held at the Guilds Ofico, Combined Meeting of Menthera by tens of chits or without chits. longer abtains. It was distinctly THE FIRST ORDINARY GEN- Colattal this clause in the Ordinance had criminated between the man in the

Rond, Victoria Hongkong, ព Secretary, as part of his abgument, any appreciable effect on obtaining street and the man in the Club. The pay, St. George's Building, Chater very people against whom, 1 under TUESDAY, the 16th September, 1923, suggested that, in view of this drink.

stand, the Ordinance was mainly at 11 o'clock in the forenem, for the huge bag of chits, it would be an

Police Wasting Time.

levelled were able immediately to excellent thing to have this i

Now, to look at the matter from, transfer their support, if they need-purpose of receiving a Statement of Accounts and the Report of the General measure, which would bring com-) fort and happiness to every man- another angle, I do submit, Sir, ed to do so and wished to do so, to Mangers for the year ended 30th ager and hotel proprietor. It was, having regard to what I have said, any one of the many clubs, and April, 1993, and electing a Consulting however, opposed at that time by that it is an absurdity to bring in obtain whatever credit they wished. Committee and Auditors. the Hongkong Hotel and the King this measure to prevent hotels from Therefore, I submit that to the man Edward Hotel, showing that they sing for drinks, for that is covered in the street it was grossly unfair tüid not take the same view of the already by the Act of George II a piece of discriminatory matter as was taken by the Colon known under the euphoneous legislation, and I submit further al Secretary. Another point which, name of the "Tipplers Act" But that it was impracticable in its I think, was made, was that some here, Sir, we have legislation pass-operation and is to-day. It is an young man had gut into difficulties ed to make this failing to ensure absurdity that in a Colony like this in paying his drink chits and had cash down for drinks served to to-day you should be able to dine to have bis passage paid home, non-residents in the hotel a cri in- in comfort in one room nad that, Well, Sir, with regard to that al offence punishable with a fine of either because the room is hot or point, it seems to me almost ludi- £230-a criminal offence both for that you do not particularly like the erons that, because me or two the hugelkeeper and the person i man sitting next to you, you desire who signs the clit. Surely, our to have a cup of coffee in the lounge young men have given way to drink and go into difficulties, a Police in this Colony have plenty in the immediate precincts you considerable inconvenience should to do going about the Colony pre-, pass from the possibility of being be inflicted upon all persons fre-vepting or detecting serious crime in honest law-abiding citizen to quenting large establishments like instead of having to spend their that of a law-breaking citizen, with the two lutels I have neationed. It time lounging bout hotels trying criminal responsibilities both to the No. 1448, c/n “China Mail.”

I submit is ike using a sledge hammer to to find centleman who sign Hotel and yourself. break a walnut. In fact, Sir. His chits for drinks though they that

resident in the i Excellency the late Governor exte pressly disclaimed that there was hotel, with a view to instituting

that ought not 10 he. Hotel's System Defended.

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any idea of passing such a section | prosecutions. There is a wave of The charge his more than once to stop drinking. I will quote his serious crime in the Colony, and been levelled at the Hotel words: "The alfject of the Bill is it is clear, also, that our Police, speaking as a Director and am not to stop drinking. The Colonial with the various tinties they have answering the charge--that the Secretary never said a word about) to attend to, have quite enough to Hotel system has unwisely encour- that. Now, Sir, if the object of this do. It is also clear, I submit, Sir, aged expenditure on the part of the Now, Sir, I wish to section was in no shape or form to that no sufficient reason has been junior. stop drinking, one really falls to given for interfering in this way categorically state that not only has see what object it bad. It certainly with the internal management of the Hotel not suffered as a matter has not succeeded in pleasing the hotels as to whether they shall of actual revenue from the caart- the hotels--certainly not the rlong Kong Hotel. On the contrary, Sir, they consider it is a grave incun- venience to their business.

or shall not accept chits from ment of this Ordinance, and there-

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some man whom the manager fore from that point of view it is Domnestic Occurrences may consider a perfectly solvent unnecessary to repeal, but, further Leading Articles and reliable member of the com-than that, it positively and Local and General

munity. I think, Sir, I have said absolutely refuses to give credit of Sacini and Perconal

No Cash, No Cocktail. It is very diffenit to see exactly quite enough to show that this more than 525 to any junior of any 1 Wa Must Belong how closely we are to interpret the section should be repeated, and accredited firm in this place. There

my hon. friend the member for the fore, I do not think it can be justly Oplam and Tocbuns phrase used in sub-section 25, sec- Chamber of Commerce will be accused in these circumstances of Typhoon Victims.. tion 3, of the 1917 Ordinance, that fable, ao doubt, to bring forward encouraging undue credit

and $4,000,000 Dest liquur is to be consumed in conjuncfurther reasons which I have not tion with a bondstide meal. Liter given. I beg to move the resolu- afly, it might mean that a man tion standing in my name. would have to swallow his drink with his mouth full. One does not know to what extent such a phrase may be carried. Atall events, sup- posing a man who is a non-resident in the hotel is taking his friends to the theatre and giving a dinner in

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therefore encouraging undue ex-Willian Powell, Ltd. penditure of money. I submit that Conduit Damaged. the law as it at present stands it is Still Coming Down. impossible to carry out the law Correspondence without placing the guest of any Oar Literary Lobby hotel in this Colony in jeopardy London Hospital. of unconsciously breaking this Colofn Y Cyro Ordinance, and the Hotel also Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak: Your for accepting a chit. It isu reasori-Srecno Portuguesa Excellency, It is fitting that able thing that any hotel in the Extraordinary Under

penditure' the hotel before the theatre, and should first declare, in discussing place should be authorised to that he wants to give them a cock, the repeal of this section of the accent a chit which is really a carry Our Finances tail before dinner. The dinner is, Ordinance, that I am interested to over from a dinner chil, and there Dodging Debre.. of course, to follow the cocktail, the extent that am at present a should be no breaking of the law in Nursing Home

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