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DISPLAY

"WICHERTS'

AND

TOKIGHTS REVELS

THE CHINA MAIL.

HONGKONG HOTEL: ROOF

GARDEN.

The supper, dance which in to inaugurate the opening of the Hongkong Hotel roof garden to-night, · promises to be a wonderful festiva qocasion. It is expected that 150 revellers will ba present to night when fell advantage will be taken of one of the most

1oors perfect dancing

in the Colony while opportunity will be afforded to witness an exhibition of Polish Rassion dancing by Miss and Mr. Karovsky, who arrived in Hongkong this morning by the

"President Grant."

and einema

THE RACING CARNIVAL

FIXTURE ORNS IN PERFECT WEATHER.

SIR PUL CHATEN'S SUCORAS..

DAHLIAS TAKE FRST TW, PLAOLS IN TRIAL PLATE

AND MAIDENS.

Thare must have been me beam Dr. Forsyth's Neston, 150lbs." ing smile on the faces ofhe Jockey.i

(Mr. Doyle) 1 Club officials when they shed back Mrs. Bernard's Snodgrass, 180lbs. the blankets this morningad jumped

(Mr. Spinks) 2 out of bed, as presumablyhey would Mrs. Bernard's Meadowgrass do on this red-letter day the year'a' 163lbs...... (Mt. Zollensky) 3 racing calendar; to "dise" the Mr. Da Roza's Dapper Von (late weather. However bard he tried Aloha) 152lbs. (Mr. Bears) 0 Mr. Claxton could indeed M. H. B. L. Dowbiggin's Ragman

153lbs. have provided them with more

.......(Mr. Both) 0 delightful meteorological conditions Mr. Alleare's Robin Gray, 1881.

(Mr. Davice) }} for the opening day of th1923 race meeting.→

Mr. Dynasty's King's Joster,

Ltd have spared nothing that would temporary stoppage threined to

'QUEEN ALEXANDRA”

FOOTWEAR

LADIES

FOR

FOR

RACE WEEK.

BIRTH..

SALTHE-On February 17, 1923, at Haskow, to Mr. and Mrs. J. E. Salter, a son (Peter Raymond Blois).

MARRIAGE,

vanture

15918s....

WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 28

for inches as per scale. Entrance 17. THE GARBISON CUP, $10, Three quartera of a Mile.

Presented by the Officers of the Garrison, $400 added for Winner. Becond $250. Third $150. Fox Bubsoription Grilling of any Bea son.Weight for, inches as per Beale. Winners at, previous Offi cial Meeting of bne Race 7 lb.- of more than ons 10 lb.: at this Mooting 8 lb. extr. Penalties- accumulative, (Jockey allow. ance.) Entrance $10, One Mile, Pari-mutuell

Pari mutual:

Winner,

48.90

Flacos --Ist”)

*20'd 3rd Cash Sweeps

.Ticket No. 208 1st

381 2nd: 183 3rd

6.10 7.80 9.50

$1,257.20 359 20 179.60

"

Unplaced poules Commission

200,00

$199.00

Winner,

11.20

Places-1st

Total.

$2,495.00

2ad .ard

$ 8.80 19.50 $

Carb Sweepe→→

Unplaced ponies, $25.00 each, ticket Noe. 181, 156, 111, 374, 88, 285, 262, 203. Sir Paul's Diadem Dablia, 155lbs.

(Mr. Vida) 1

Ticket No. 907 let $2,579 50

266 2nd $ 735 00

91 Bid $ 367.50

Unplaced ponies Commission t

Total

$ 25.00

$925,00

· $ 4,025.00

Unplaced poules, $25.00 each ticket Nos 699,

Mr. Ferdadud's Royal Conquefor

(late Pawnshop) 165lbe.-'.

(Mr. Soares) 1.9

Mr. John Peel's Yellow Riyor,

188lbs.......(Mr. Zellenaky) 2 Messrs. Albert and Amold's Ding" A novel festure of the roof garden,

Dong, 1551be...(Mr. Foares) & is a powerful spot light which given

Mr. Robert's Renfrew, 165lbs. the beautifully decorated ball-room

(Mr. Matalem) Mr. Hector Sassoon's Roinn a real fairy land effect.

It was a glorious day-ight, clear 165lbs. (Mr. Dalgnano) Bay, 185lbs...(Mr. Gibson) 0 The latest improvement of the and sunshiny with just a try tang Mr. John Peel's East Bi M. Alleure's Robin Gray, 155lbs, *** Hotel premises has not

baan in the air that made a ligh overcont 150lbs.........(Mr. Remedios), #]'.

(Mr. Dalgarno) or Bath's Knockah Leg, 1531 designed solely to cater for dancing welcome daring the earlierart of the Hon. Mr. A. G. Stephen's Havana,

Mr. Fordadad's Royal Oak, 155lbs.

(Mr. Seth) morning. And clear and biht as the 185lbs..........(Mr. Crookam)' 0

(Mr. Remedios) Mr. Towers Mosaic Tile, 182lbs. enthusiasts but has also been weather itself, were the pipects of Mr. Topside's Mountain Deer Mr. Harley's Dempsey, 182bs.LE

(Mr. Hill) 3 made adaptable for cabaret the fixture. There was thiyear no

(Mr. Bulten!) 0

Mr. John Peel's West Rivar (Mr. Hill) 0 entertainments, seamen's strike to act as ankering Mr. Tower's Flash Tile 150lbs. Mesure Hoals & Cook's Old

1041be... (Mr. Zellensky) 0: influence upon the festi spirit The Hongkong Hotel manages

(Mr. Gibson) 0 Monkeyuuta 158lbs...(Mr. Beth) 0.

Time: 2.12. 3/5. ·· abroad and the Peak trai, whose Time 1.01. 3/5.

Mrs. John Johnstone's Druid

Length and a half; Head. One and a half lengths; one

132lbs. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . . . . (Mr. Adams) 0 8.-THE CAUSEWAY

BAY length.

Mr. Logan's Bed Rufos 1821b

STAKES.-Winner $600. Second.. Time: 1.35. 4/5.

$200. Third $100: For China. Ponies, weight for inches sa per scale, that have arrived in Hong- Three lengths; four length 5.-THE FOOCHOW CUP and have not-left the Colony and kong previous to lat July, 1922. Winner $600. Second $200. Third $100. For China Ponies. Weight

bate run in at least 3 GymkhanS for inches na per scale. Ponies

meetings, in Hongkong in 1922, that have run at any previous

and Subscription Griffing of thie Season, Subscription Griffins of... Official Meeting and not won a

this Besson 1922-1923 allowed: race and Griffine allowed 5 lb.

7 lb. (Jockey allowance.) Ea- Subscription Grifins of this, seo-

trance $10. One Mile. son 1922-1923 allowed 10-b.

Pan mutuel (Jockey allowance.) Allowances

Winner; accumulative. Entrance$10. Two Miles. Pari-mutual;→→→

Winner, Places-let

make this latest

sa accentuate the traffic proko, had unqualified success, Indeed to very obligingly started rann; again Brest, complete and

furnish just in time. garden

this magnificent roof and ball-room bas coat approximate ly $50,000.

The track was in splend order this morning and was expect to be very much оп the fe side. Discriminating punters whi came The design of the ball-room apelle down to-day for the purse of the latest word in architectural effect, watching the performance ofDerby while the electric lighting arrange candidates were therefore i posi ments give that wonderful thrill tion to make their observatiounder which night revellere so much enjoy.exceptionally favourable comet-

CRUELTY PUNISHED.

BB

LTICES.

Disparaging comments the quality of this year's subsotion griffins in despite, interestingicing promised to toward the crowdbioh early began to gather arou the stands and when the Starter; Mall. Brattonsentaway the first field soon Hongkong's racing carnival hadgun under circumstances which insted that it was likely to be ona the most successful meetings in bent years.

Worg Taze-king, of the Kung Ou Lan (wholesale depot), was fined $25 by Mr. R. E. Lindsell this morning for cruelty to clickens, having crowded too many into three orates.

Defendant's excuse was that his terms of sale to the Central Market specified delivery in crates originally packed by importers." HE. The Governor and ady Mr. Fred Fisher, the B. P. C. A. Stubbe arrived in time for the ond Tospector told his Worship that one crate capable of bolding 45 birde hadece in which His Excellency 69. One bird was desd. Another pony. Matthias, was one the flatter in the exhilarating apring crate with room for 30 had. 41. The starters, but unfortunately thony The Band of the King'e fement breeze. Routine's hum-drum wreated third crate which should have held 20 was not placed.

had 45. As to defendant a allegation awry, every thought will centre that the crates were delivered with rendered some capital invental

spert and the the original contenta, he had often selections during the day.

Thus seen them sort out the poultry and His Worship imposed the fine

in

the

Colony will make holiday free. will the Goddess of "Chance reign repack it, supreme and thus will Hongkong so stated. "racing mad."

LOCAL AND GENERAL.

COURSE-BAILEY-On February 22, 1923, at Shanghai, by The

The moralista may condemn racing Very Rev. Dean Symons, Gorge Victor, only son of Mr. because it encourages gaming-no and Mrs. J. T. Course, of Bhanglong ago as 1180 the Bishop of hai, to Dorothy. youngest Chatres declared gaming the "mother daughter of Mr. and Mra. I. of lics and perjuries"-but we have Dietrich, Dr.-H. G. Earle, Mr. and Bailey, Soutbres, Hants.

the highest authority, Charles Lamb, Mrs. H. Krebs and Mr. Eric Moller not las, that man is a gaming arrived by the "President Grant" animal. In the Homeland they do to-day.

DEATHS.

MOORE.-On February 28th at Kowloon. Ethel Eileen, wife of Dr. W. B. A. Moore,

DOWLER,-On February 20, 1923,

not face this fact bonestly. They

Sir Wm. Branyate, Mr. G.

The officials wore ;- Patron: His Excellency R. E. Stubbs, ...

2-THE MAIDEN STAKES

Winnor $600. Second $200. Third

$100. For China Ponies bond fide Griffins on date of entry. Weight for inches as per scale. Subscrip- tion Griffins of this Season, 1922- 1923- allowed 7 b. Entrance Pari-mutuel :—

$10. Three quarters of a Mile.

Winner,

Places :-let

多部

*

$ $9.70

6.00,

2nd 3rd

$ -22.80 $13.80

Cash Sweeps:-

Tioket No. 38 1st $1,101.80

19

.. 110 2nd $ 914,80 994 3rd $157.40

Unplaced poines Commission

Total..

$ 250,00

$ 456,00

: $3.280.00

Unplaced poines, $25.00 each, 17, 341, 227, 295, 68. ticket Non. 243, 160, 326, 327, 398,

Sir Paul's Peerless Dablis, 185lbs.

153lbs.

(Mr. Vide) 1

(M+Moller) 2

Sir Paul's Batisfaction Dahlin, Mr. H. Birkett's Korean Star

1521....... (Mr. Doyle) 3 Mr. Dynasty's King Charlie

.155lbs.

Stewards: The Hoo, St Paul Capt. Chater, K., C.31.G.-D.G. Ber nard, Esq., C. C. Boy Esq., Lieut.-Col. G. K. Hall itton,'

B.

0

1

(Mr. Logan) 0

Places :-let ... 2nd

3rd

8.10

6.00

6.90

6.90 .: 5.70

$

8.40

Caab Sweeps

2nd Srd.

12.60

8.20

Cash Sweepe

Ticket No. 819 1st - $2,223.20 ', 686 2nd $695.20 „220 3rd §. 317.60 $ 100.00

Unplaced prnics Commission

819.00

$4,095.00

Total.

Unplaced ponies, $25.00 each, ticket Nos. 691, 45, 722, 725. Messrs. G. H. Potta and Ellin Hayim's Invincible King 155lbs.

(Mr. Hill) 1 Messrs Stephen and titta Wild

Thyme 150lbs...(Mr. Crocka) a Sir Paul's White Star Dablis (late

Ticket No. 586 1st 8, 2,489,90. 256 2nd $711.40

369 3rd $355,70-

Unplacod ponise

Commission

Total.

75.00

$ 908.00

$4,540,00

Unplaced ponies,—$25.00- ticket Noo. 628,297, 879. Mr.H. Birkett's Rialto Star 156lbs. (Mr. KINE Mr. Heator Sassoon's Roman

Warrior (lata" Waterloo) 150lbs

(Mir, Gibso Mr. Adams Scamperdule 150los

Albert (Mr. Beth) Mesare. Albert and Arnold's Dandy Kid, 1851 (Mr. Bonres)

Golden Knob)1591b (Mr. Molter) 3 Mr. John Peel West River 1471bs

@ Mr. H. Birkett's Ban, Star 160.bd.

1

.....(Mr. Dalgarno) 0. Mr. Dynasty's King Tommy

155lbs. .............. (Mr. Zellensky) Messrs. G. E. Potta and Elis Honorary Stewards: Excel-

Hayim's Petrol King, 155lbs. lency Admiral Sir Arthur Leve- son, K.C.D.; His ExcellenMajor Mr. Heater Sason's Roman Law (Mr. Moars)

(Mr. Zellensky) General Sir John Towler,.M.0.,{

158lbs... (Mr. Remedios) Mr. Dyer's Manifest 142lbs.

(Mr. Doyle) 0 Capt. EG. Spinks Lighting 150lbs C.B., D.s.o.; Hon. M Claud

(Mr. Spioke) Severn, c...; CommodoH. E., Ar. Seth's In spits of 163/bs,

(Mr. Bulteel) of

Time: 2.07.4/5. (Mr. Seth) 0 Mr. L. Nelson's Navajo Scout

Five Lengths; Six Lengths. Grace, B.N.

Harkaway 155lbs... (Mr. Spinks) 0 Mesa G.-H. Patte and Ellis

G. Spinka

153lbs.......(Mr. Neleon) a 9.—THE JOCKEY CLUB STAKES-Winner $600: Second Mines. Stephen's and Stitts John

Hayim's Mountain King 155lbs.

$200. Third. $100. For China Keats 155lbs. (Mr. Crockam) 0

(Mr. Matcham) 0.

Ponies. Weight for inches as per D. E. Clark, Esq., R. MDyer, H. E. Sir Edward Bimbbs's Matthias

Time :--4.31, 4/8.

scale. Griffing allowed 5 lb. Bub ....(Mr. Bulteel) 0 Esq., Dr. C. Forsyth, Win. 152bs.

tion Griffins of this Season 1920.75 A length; two lengths. Rees-Davies, Hon. Mr. G. Mr. Tower's Cyr Tile 1821be.....

1923 allowed 10 lb. Winners st Stephen, H. P. White, Es

(Mr. Hill) 0

this Meeting 5 lb. extra. (Jockey Stewards in Charge of thale :

allowance) Entrance $10. One R. M. Dyer, Esq. anl C. ŝoyd,

Mile and a quarter. Esq.

Parisutnel:- Judga: F. B. Marshall,

Winner, Assistant Judge: D. Hark,

Places-lat Starter: Lieut.-Col. G. Hall

Fad Brutton.

Srd Second Starter: J. Gyon,' Esq.

Stewards in Charge of Pick: a. P. White, Esq. and C.,

Forsyth.

Shortly after noon yesterday, the defend racing primarily because driver of motor-oar No. 470 knocked it improves the stook. Out here down a Chinese woman in Queen's (willy-nilly) franker. We Road Eant. He removed her to the make no pratensions about improving hospital. our quaint little China ponies. Wo accept their performances in the

AIA

One Chinese case of diphtheria,

same way that we accept the social one British case of enterio-fever and intercourse and the band as very two Chinese cases of cerebrospinal .pleasant incidentale, But only as fav. r were reported during the twenty: incidentals. The fatter's the thing four hours ended yesterday, Our chief object is to make ten dollars grow where only one grew before,Į

in London, Edgar Hastings we Dowler, aged 24 years. AVASIA. On February 22, 1928. at Shanghai, B. C. Avasia. eldest zon of the late Mr. C. B. Tata (A varia), aged 40 years. CARTMAN,On December 28, 1922, at Eileden, Frederick Angustus Cartman, late of the Chinese Im perial Maritime Customs, aged 73 years, youngest and only surviv ing son of the late Rev. William Carlman, D., sometime Head. master of Skipton Grammar Echool: and beloved husband of Annie Love Cartmin.

The Chinese who ren amok in and in seeking to do this we secure im- Jervois Street shop a week ago was mense pleasure, delisions excitement. remanded for another week this Yet further charm, before the morning, for further medical ob- Goddess of Chance we are all largely servation, the Medical Officer having equal. True, the tote may bring bigger reported him to be insane. retame to the heavier investor

(though also it may not) but only one Mesams. A. B. Watson, & Co. ticket can win the cash' sweep's first will be closed to business after 1 mize and that one ticket may be p.m. to-day, to-morrow and Friday. The China Mail. bought by the man who invets $10 The Hongkong Dispensary will dis just as readily as it may fall to the pense prescription from 6 p.m. to man who invest $100 How did 7.30 p.m. on the three days and Shakespeare express this truth

business will be ne usual on Satur

**YKUTA, JUATION, PUBLIOʻSERVICE"

HONGKONG, MEDTRIDAY, Far 28, 1927.

CHANCE.

How many Hongkong people really know' anything' about horses. Yet

If Heroples and Licbas play at dice, day, Which is cho better mant. The

greater throw

sq

Handicappers: C. C. yd, Enq, and F. Button, Esq.

Stewards in Charge ohri- Mutuel: D. G. M. Bernar sq. and Hon. Mr. A. G. Steph

Tithe Keeper: M. 8. Shn, Esq.

Fion. Surgeon Dr. C. F. Secretary: É. J. Chapman. Treasures: Messrs. Lang &

Olerk of the Course: H. t,

Davis

Beg

1-THE The Chinese who was indicted in May turn by forte a from the the Paime Judge's court for demand- ing money by mensões from a women Many local financial: Hercule and for intimidation, was found "guilty" of intimidation and son-

- weaker hand,

d'Almada).

}

Time 1.33, 1/5 One length and a half; one length. 3. THE VICTORIA STAKEB.→ $100. For China Pories. Weight { Winner $600, Second $200. Third

for inches se per scala. Bond fide Griffins on date of entry allowed 5 lb. Subscription Griffins of this Besson 1922-1923 allowed 10. Entrance $10. One Mile. Pari mutual:-

Winner,

THE TRIAL PLÅTE. Winner $600. Second $200. Third $100: For Ching Ponies bond fide Griffins on date of entry. Weight for inches as per scale, Subscrip tion Griffins of this Season 1933- 1923 allowed 7 lb. Winner of the Maiden Blakes 7 lb. extra. (Jockey allowance.) Entrance $10. Allowances accumulative. Cash Sweeps One Mile and a quarter. Pari-mutuel Winner, Places:-1st

+

$216.60

$

17.00%

Flaces:-1st

17.50

41

2pd Brd

37.00

2nd 3rd

18 80 25.10

6.40

11.20

Cash Sweepe':

Caab Sweeps:---

Ticket No. 832 lut $1,100.20

1...

#

318 2nd $341.80 312 3rd $ 170.90.

Unplaced ponies Commission 、

هم تر از ه

Total..

$175.00 $471.00

• $2,385,00-

Unplaced ponies, $25.00 each, WONG-NEI-CG ticket Now. 231,204,870, 27, 618, 183, STAKES.-Winner $600. a 240. $200. Third $100. For a Sir Paul's, Honesty Dablis 1521ba' Ponies, Subscription Griff

(Mr. Vida) any Season non-winners: Mit Merars, Stephen and Stict' Bens; for inches as per scale. y 1621ba... ...... (Crockam) 2 allowance.) Entrance $5. f Mr. Henry Humphrey's Speckled a Mile.

Mouse 15b1be7(Mr. Doylo) 8 Pari mutual:-

Sir Paul's Boeptid. Dahlia late Winner

$2.7 chequer Bil 155lba (Mr. Mallor) 0 Placas:-1st

12.1 Mr. Birkett's Night Star 152lbs. *** 2nd

129 S JAMME, Monen) ":0 Brd $10.2Mr. Clpin's Western Union 159iba. (Mr. Matoham) $780.8 Mr. Graham's Autumn" Time $20880 •155lbe (Mr. Zellensky) 3.104.40 Mr. Hector Samoon's Roman $200.00 Pride; 1581ba; (Dalgarno) 811.00 Mr, Seth's Trylle II, 186)ba (Beth)

Tind 2.05 LON $1,355.00 Short Head Two Lengths

THE VALLEY ST KES. Usplaced poises.. $95.00

Winner #750. Second $250. TH ticket Now, 180, 319, 245, 139,

8160. For Bubscription 191, 370 004.

of this Beason-1922-1935.2

these next four days' will find most and a Lichas will learn this again erienced to one year's imprisonment Saturday evening come, and lest the the Colony describing, discussing and fates have already ordained that they noner was defended by Mr. F. C. Jenkin (instructed by Mr. Loo criticising the performances of some must loss, they will be wise to accept odd hundred Chains puniça. Largo this sare tip-set a limit to the nom numbers will flock to Happy Valley, ber of bets to be made and thus

Wenture that a run of a bad luck will Yesterday afternoon the jury in strayed in their best, and will there Hot cost more than a kubwa sum, the Chief Justice's Court at the strain their eyas to watch three same. If this advice is followed the muralists | Criminal Sessions returned a verdict absurdly small mounts career round are answered completely and finally of "not guilty" in favour of three of Still larger numbers will for betting then becomes a harmless the four Chinese indicted for armed the course. eagerly, stan the evening papers for pleasure. If it is ignored robbery at No. 77, Yenkuk Street,

woll, hardshifi might easily resolt. Taumsif- reediving stolen property: Dopi oed points renite and their mien will become that many will ignore it does not, and 'unlawinl possession of arms. Commulsion

melanchely or philosophicas however, give the moraliste, much They were discharged. The other is told. Bands will quicken argument. Hat, 15 a gaming animal was found guilty of the and if you deprive him of bis races be second and third charges and was those elated with mudden wall and other way to havs a flatter, sentenced to four yenis and two stad fummer the glove) of those. In spite of all the reproni and exuben yaara' hard labour, respectively, the

sentences to run cousecutively)

Cash Sweeps

Ticket No. 259 lat 132 2nd 240 3rd

Ticket No. 93 Ist, $ 2,660-70,

,496 2nd $760.20 66 3rd 380.10 Unplaced ponies $ 175.00 Commission

094.00

$4.970,00 Unplaced ponies, $25.00 each, tiekot Nos. 977, 49, 20, 352, 852, 902 814.

"

24:70

6.70

.:7.20

8.80

Ticket No. 810 lat $2,366.70

++

-839 2nd $ 676 201 588 3rd $ 338.10 Unplaced ponica $5.75.00 Commission

Total.

$ 864.00.

. $ 4320.00.

Unplaced ponirs, $25.00 each,. ticket Nos. 393 164, 621. Sir Paul's Empire Dablis 161be. (Mr. Moller)' Mr. Hector Bamoon's Roman.

Bepublic (late Bankemheld) 158166...(Mr. Crockam). Mr.Dynasty's Spotted Band,

1551be0

(Mr. Dalgarno) Memura G. H Palta and Ellis

Sir Paul's Orient Dahlia 185lbe

Bayim's Allhd King" 155lbs.

Sir Paul's Ideal Dahlia 161lbs 1

(Mr. Moller) 1 Mr. Ferdaded', 'Royal Ornaador;

(late Starland) 165.be. (Mr. Boures) 9

Bay (Mr. Roares). Meseru, G. H. Potte and Ell

Mr. De Rom's Dapper Dan (late Hayim's Harvest King : 1551be.

* Yanigb) 144lbs. ((Mr. Rozs) Lady Chater's Fengnio, 102lba.

(Mr. Hill) Time: 12 1/5,000

Two Length Length and a half. (Mr.Vida) 0

(Continued on page 5.)

(Mr. Dalgarno) 0

Mr. Dyer's Manifesto, 153lbs.

(Mr Matcham) 0 Dynasty's King Henry, 154lbs.

Mr. Ferndud's Royal Beauty 160lbs:

(Mr. Moses) Leitch and Honbrieff's Aviemore 1531be.....(Mr. Dəylə) 0

Boman

Stephen and Stite'" Him

Nook, Half a

That thousands of: Austrians and others are travelling in Germany with vissa on their passports obtained from a factory in Vienna at a low price has- just been discovered.

At a meeting of the Manchester: Rotary Club the chairman annoubord that bearded member, Rot Goodwin, beded for -Tha: in Vizínu from fellow members who