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BRITISH CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE..

BIR JOHN JÖRDEN'S ADDKÉg AT THE CLOSING BESSION.

your meetings, and I shall read them with as great. interest as the most absorbing romance.

Mr. Fox has told us that many of the resolutions are trite. I do not think they are trite really. The more you deal with them, the more they take hold of you. Even kin, which is as old as myself; I think we born in the same year. (Laughter).

BRITAIN'S CLEÀN BERET IN OFTUM. The closing session of Conference

There was one point which I did of British Chambers of Commerce was held on Nov. 8 when the chair not know was going to come before

BANQUETS AND FELICITATIONS. I Were

THE CHINA MAIL.

years. His appointment as Secretary during his visit and intimated that of the once-remote province of of the Association seems to me to be he regarded that banquet as a plea- Shansi. I found life there full a very great step in advance. I sant termination of the labours of the of interest and old as I am, I would not mind spending a year think that the British Chamber Conference. of Commerce Journal, which is pub- SIR JOHN JORDAN'S CONGRATULATIONS. Or so in studying at first hand the course of local, government in lished in Shanghai, is a wonderful

Sir John Jordan in reply said -

that province. It was refreshing to production and I do hope it will now

I had almost thought it impossible find in the Governor a comparatively. be the Journal of the whole, Associa that any representative of the Con-young man not only full of enthu tion of British Chambers of Comference of Chambers would have stasm for reforms, but actively eng merce in China, and that there will

been able to speak tonight, after the aged in carrying his ideas into prac be contributions from all the other wealth of discussion which has been tice in every department of the Gov Treaty Ports (loud and prolonged crowded into the last four days. The emment. A telephone system con applause.)

The chairman, Mr. Macray, then well-known vitality of Shanghai, how nected every district in the province proposed vots of thanks from the ever, asserts itself once more and with the capital and placed the Gover was taken, as at the opening meet-the Conference, but I am very gland Conference to Sir John Jerdan for begin to feel a certain quiet sym nor in close communication with all | ing by Mr. H. A. J. Macracy, and the that it did. I mean the resolution his kindness in being present at thepathy for these who are waiting for his subordinates Local self govern- o Right Hon. Sir John Jordan attended, moved by Mr. Mayers with regard to Conference, which was seconded by the British merchant to wear himself meat was a reality and the Pro- sittinger of ladles as well as mem- that question rade in morphine Hongkong, who referred to the one sitting on Mr. Macray's right hand. Optum. I feel very deeply on Mr John Johnstone, representing bers of the British Chamber of Com-f spoke of the trade in morphine. cellent work that Sir John had done experienced during these few days their work. If all the provinces

The facts are not, I believe, fully during his lengthy career in China.

Sir John having briefly replied, known at the present moment, and I would ask this Conference and the public to suspend judgment anti: Mr. S.D. Dodwell proposed. "That have fuller details from home. this Conference having terminate chairman, Mr. H. A. J. Macray My impression is that the export of its labours and being in full body But no Minister has ever had such and let us hope that this will come |

morphine from the United Kingdom suggest that you should leave it an open question. The facts as to whether or not morphine is now coming to China as it formerly was

merce in Shanghai were present.

Mr. H. H. Fox, chairman of the Conference in committee, reported the results of the conference to the

out.

It is difficult to express to you the pleasure and interest which I have among you." I have known many of Leen intimately concerned with all Fea personally before and I have your problems for over 40 years an opportunity of meeting the China community as a corporate body, and

vincial Assembly was composed of f 120 men who seemed to take an earnest and intelligent interest in were governed in the same way as rank to which she is entitled Shansi, China would some way as amongst the nations of the world.

in time.

I believe that. the Conference

there being no questions on them. Jordan, H. M. Minister, expressed has been stopped from 1917 and memory of all who died in the F of taking part in a real exchange of which has just closed will create a

Mr. Macray, addressing Sir John the hope that such resolutions as called for representations to H. M. Government would be duly trans:

here assembled do solemnly and reverentially record a tribute of

service of the British Empire dur. admiration and honour to the deep ing the Great War: that it express est sympathy with all who suffered

new solidarity of interest between the scattered Eritish communities of China and that all wilt be

mitted to H. M. Secretary of State will soon be known. I have written the loss of relative or friend and that the community. It is our privilege and strengthened by the common bend

for Foreign Affairs.

THE MINISTER'S FAREWELL ADDRESS.

TIFFIN AT UNION CLUB.:

At one o'clock Mr. P. W. Massey, acting President of the Union Club, gave a tiffin party at the Club, to introduce to Sir John Jordan the Chinese and British members of the Committee. Besides these the party Included H. M. Consul General and some Consular officials, the Chinese Envoy for Foreign Affairs, delegates at the Conference, and one or two prominent Chinese, the full list of guests, being

ideas..

In the world of to-day the position of the public servant becomes more and more that of a representative of the very basis of our prestige to repre sent the true needs of our country men. It is not always possible to take action exactly on the lines desired by the community in China, or in any one part of China, owing to policies which affect nur wider de tinies. But I have always made it my aim to explain such positions, for I believe that policy and public opinion must keep pace with one another if they are to remain healthy and sound..

STRENGTHENING THE LEGATION. You have laid before me to-day in

I believe also that it will foster a new realization of the importance

of close working with the Chinese. We are living in their country, their trade is our trade and broadly speaking their interest is our interest. I am convinced that the policy which will best serve China will most benefit us and the world at large.

SCATTERING TO THEIR HOMES. We are scattering to our homes, and I say good-bye to you with a full heart. My life has been given to China and to British interests, in China. I could have received no better reward than the welcome you

home asking for full particulars. it return heartfelt thanks to all who The resolution also deals with served in H. M. Military and Naval In replying Sir John Jordan opium. Now I think I may say with Forces and in Great Britain's Mer- said:-

out hesitation that the British Gov-cante Marine during the war. “Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentleernment has done its part, and done This was seconded by Mr. G. T. men, I assure you that it will be it well, as regards opium. For 12 Edkins (Shanghai) and after this was a very pleasant duty for me to years we worked in close co-opera- carried the Confererce terminated. comply with the wish expressed by tion with the Chinese Government. the Chairman and forward these Under the Manchu Dynasty the resolutions to His Majesty's Gov-officials worked well and whole pro- ernment. In asking me to do sovinces which had been ablaze with you are knocking as an open door, poppy were cleared in a few years. for I myself have been interested The Indian Government made a for many years in several of the sacrifice of millions of pounds, and mattere covered by your resolu- did everything in its power to tions, which express in better put an

end to the opium traffic. terms than I could have chosen my

We on our part did all that could own feelings on these subjects. I am

be done and the traffic stopped

a clear and statesmanlike way the have given me and the knowledge speaking at a double disadvantage. entirely. What is the result? I say

needs of the Chambers of Commerce that this Conference closes with a In the first place, everything has been it publicly, the Chinese

at the

and the commercial communities wholehearted and solid determina- resident in China. The work of the tion on the part of the China com- | said so very appropriately by others, present moment. are: cultivating

Legation will be immensely strength-munities to pull together and to and in the second place.I regret very opium in a great number of pro- The Right Hon. Sir John Jordan,eried- have heard one or two wark bard cn' lines, which are much that owing to pressure of other vinces and are doing so with the con- P.C., GGIE., KCB., KCMG., Mr. J. mournful whispers to the effect that worthy of the best traditions. engagements I was not able to attend ivance of the officials. Opium is amicson, CM.G., H. E. Yang it will be gravely increased too-by of our people. Gentlemen, good. all the sittings of the Conference as I coming down the Yangtze, every Tcheng. Messrs. Archibald Rose, the work you have accomplished. bye. (Applause). had intended to do. I should have steamer which comes down brings, CE, H. Phillips, O.EE. H. H. Fox, It has been my constant desire to liked to have been present at every opium., Customs officials do try to CMG., H. J. Brett, H. Horne, E. M. draw closer the bonds of sympathy session and to have heard every seize it, bet such efforts must be use Gull, John Johnstone, H. A. J. Ma- and interest between the official word which was said, but interviews less so long as the whole population cray. S. H. Dodwell. A. Brooke world in China and the communities with my Chinese and other friends connives in the traffic. The same Smith, S. F. Mayers, R. G. Buchan, which it represents. I believe that have taken much of my time here. applies to the West River at Canton, C. A. Fraser, V. R. Eckford, W. B you now have in our Consular Service From my few visits to the Conference

where a great many of the officials Kennett, E. G. Masters, Chua body of men who are actuated by I can bonestly say that I have been deeply impressed by the states. I am very gald that Mr. Mayers Nich-yue, E. S. Leeds, 1 B. manlike tenor of your dis-moved this resolution. The British Powell, F. C. Butcher, A. R. Hager, Taking "purely at ran Government has clean hands. What Y. C. Tong, Chun Bing him. Lo dom. the various subjects on

ever our past record may or may King-kee, Pan Chin-poo, W. A. B. the agenda one realizes the immen-not have been, China cannot now Nichols, P. M. Scott, C. C. Nieh, sity of the problems involved. We say that we have not done W. Argent, W. F. Alway, and H. G.

The appointment of a Commercial are living in a huge country-one of our duty fully with regard to Simons.

Counsellor to Shanghai and of Com- the greatest countries in the world..

China is not, however, opium.

In proposing the health of His mercial Secretaries to Peking and The trade of China is immense, and doing her duty, and I think that you Majesty's Minister, Mr. Massey Hongkong was a

measure which when speaking of that trade I have can hardly imagine the Chinese said: .

arese largely from your recommenda. almost a feeling of exaltation. Take people will be content to have it said "Sir John Jordan, Gentlemen,-ions. I trust and believe that the the part of China I know best, which that they instituted this great reform do, not wish to take up your time new commercial service is fulfilling is Tientsin: thither comes the wool 10 years ago merely in order to stop by making a speech, and I think the needs of our trade in this country from Kokonor on camel back; in the Indian traffic that they might sub- our, distinguished guest here to day I can testify to the hard werk which Shanghai you have articles such as stitute for it the traffic in Chinese must be somewhat surfeited with has been put into the task of re-

cussions.

are engaged in smuggling operations. Pan-san, Shen Lien-fang, Chang a strong sense of duty and a devotion

to their service, and it has been a great source of gratification to me that the good work of my old service has been so generally recognized during the last few years.

THE IMPERIAL FORCES. "The "Imperial Forces" was pro- posed by Mr. A. G. Stephen who coupled with the toast the came of Commodore Ellison, who he hoped would find nothing to open fire upon in China save the dangerous and bleed- thirsty pheasant and snipe (Laughter). The speaker passed in review the deeds of the various branches of H. M. Forces, and emphasized the fact that whatever prestige the British Empire had lost over the Boer War had been more than regained by the prominent and glorious part she took in the war just concluded.

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Commodore Ellison returned thanks in a most happy speech full of reminiscences of life in the Navy and his command on the East Coast of

The annual dinner of the Church England. In particular he paid a of England Men's Society at the glowing tribute to the men of the

whatever mistakes His Excelency might malo be felt sure he would give his fall support to the CE.MS. They were also honoured by having present representatives of the Army and Navy. There were men with then that night who had jeopardised their lives on bebouf of the people of Hongkong, and they trembled to

the luxuries of China. Then there it amounts to now; at the present disappointed if we were denied the Conference encourages me to hope joined as, watch officers in the Navy/of the most successful functions, in | state of the Colony had it not bod tea and silk; in the south. you have grown opium. That is really what them, but I think we should all be organization, and the success of your Mercantile Marine, both those who Hongkong Hobal last night was one think what would have beer the

CONSERVANCY IN CHIHLI AND ON THE YANGTZE.

is Chungking on the Yangtze, the moment native opium has taken the centre of all the products of Szeplace of Indian. I agree with Mr. chuan. And so on. It is a tremendous Mayers that the more publicity giver trade, a trade which knows

no to this matter the better. There are bounds, all sent to the coast where provinces in China which are simply are the representatives of the foreign cultivating epium for revenue. For firms who ship this produce over the example, Shensi. The Chinese Govern- oceans of the world..

nent informed me that the Governor of Shersi had reported that province as free from opium. It is not free. Opium is being cultivated there in every part of the province and the Governor of Shansi, the adjoining province, told me the other day that he spent a considerable portion of his revenue in trying to keep Shensi opium out of his territory. I say the more publicity the better..

You have considered the great question of railway communication, the discussion on which I am sorry I missed, though I feel sure that Mr. Mayers gave full expression to the views which he and I have so often discussed together.

Then there was the question of river conservancy. When owing to the war funds were not forthcoming

tock place there, I am familiar with every detail of that movement and was instrumental in getting a certain part of the funds which were needed.

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"THE OTHER TREATY FORTS."

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Sit fer continued progress on lines of full co-operation between the British Chambers the Commercial officers attached to the Legation.

opportunity of expressing to Jahn our appreciation of his pre sence to-day at our Union Club, the first, I think, of its sort in China: and I consider it a great privilege that his visit should take place during the time that I am acting President of this club

and

Now,

DELEGATES AND GUESTS..

•

AUSTRALIA HOUSE.

and those who had continued to serve the history of the Hongkang Branch, for their bravery.

The Bishop of Victoris presided. H.F. the Governor, who was in the merchant service. While the armies won the war, the Navy kept and amongst those present were greeted with applause on rising to the ring, but neither of them would H.E. the Governor, B.E. Major respond, said he felt rather diffident have won had it not been for the General Ventris, the Een. Mr. Claud as he thought he was there in rather THE CHANGING SITUATION.

wonderful work done unflinchingly Severn, C.M.G., Messrs. C. Go false position as he had not been We want to keep our services and by the men of the Mercantile Marine, Adams, C. Armatye, Archdeacon long in the Colony. He thought our organization as elastic and as after their best blood bad joined the Barnett, Rev. A. Bundle, G. W. C. that the Hon. Mr. Pollock could give Burnett, A. J. J. Brock, F. Britton, the some information later on, and The great interest Sir John resilient as possible, in order to meet Navy.

R. H. Chuppe, Rev. EL., Coples-that it would be better to leave it to Jordan has taken in this. co operative the constantly changing situation in movement is well known to us all, China. It is sometimes difficult to

Mr. Jamieson, in. proposing the Moyle, W. E. Croaker, T. W. Doyle, him because he was a member of and it is a happy augury for the realize how quickly conditions do

toast of the Delegates, expressed the H. W. Dick, Dr. H. G. Earle, T. Council The C.EM.S., at Home future welfare of this club that the change. During the war we have pleasure that Shanghai had experiG. F. Fleming, L. Forster, R. A. was a society, of which he had not first guest of distinction that any like all other establishments, laboured enced at their visit, to which senti- Groen, A. T., Hamilton, G. Hogg,any, very great knowledge, and be member has had the opportunity of under 2 severe handicap from the ment, Mr. Fraser, delegate from G. R. Holloway, P. P. A. Hillier, confessed that he was still somewhat Hazel Smith, W. Jackson, C. W. in doubt as to the exact working of entertaining should be one who is so depletion of our members, and it is Hankow, suitably responded. sympathetic with the aims and ideals only by self-sacrifice and devotion to The toast list was brought to a Jeffries, Engr:-Comdr. Jenkins, R. the Society, but be thought they that this dub is founded to foster.

dary that the Consular machine has close by Mr, H. G. Simms proposing H. Jewsbury, A. K. Mackenzie, H.must all of them agree that any "I know it is his hope that more been kept going at all. It is no 'Our Guests", coupled with the H. Marcus-Hayes, A. Morris, N. T. form of society which employed name of Sir Havilland de Sausmarez, Mackintosh, A. J. J. Martin, C.members of the Church of England I think we all agree with Mr. of these clubs should be formed exaggeration to say that in the

wherever there is and we were forced to give up con Fox as regards the representatives sufficiently large to justify it and the Consulates men have worked

a community Legation in Peking and many of whom he thanked for the use of bis lycock, Hon. Mr. H. E. Pollock; to bring together people for the pur structive work in connection with

court for the purposes of the Co K.C., J. H. Ramsay, H. C. Sand-pose of religious instruction was the Out-I hope those gentlemen here to-day incredibly long hours during the ference.

ford, Dr. J. H. Sanders, H. Sykes, very valuable society indeed. It was railways in China, we took up the of what Shanghai calls question of river conservancy and I Port," but which I prefer to call who represent Hongkong and other past four years and that many of Sir Havilland responded, showing G. E. Towns, G. Travers, Pay with great pleasure that he was pre-

the other Treaty Ports." (Laugh- am very glad to see that this matter). I say that they have contribut ports in China will feel encouraged them who had been out sever, eight the close relationship of law with Comdr. Vining, Rev. G. T. Walde-seat, and be hoped to see more of ter also was fully discussed at ad very largely to the deliberations

to initiate similar movements. and nine years cheerfully waived

commerce and expressing the plea grave. J. B. Walter, Capt. J. E.the CE.MS. & future. He was this Conference. It was first raised of this Conference and

"I ask you to join with me in their home leave and continued at

sure he had felt at being able to Warner, J. Witchell, E. A. M. Wilure that it had a great capacity for place the court at the disposal of the Hams, and A. G. "Warren."

good, and it he could do anything bz. Tientsic. I think the Tientsin extremely well pleased and satisfied drinking the health of Sir John their posts with not more that a few

days holiday in the year. Jordan."

Conference. mover of the resolution gave us a

Following the tonet of The, to assist it, he would be happy to do Sir John Jordán repked in his however, the pressure is slackening very instructive account of what to see here so many men from differ

King, the Bishop proposed "Our it. (Applause.)

The Elon. Mr. Pollock, in propo ent parts of China. It is really most customary sympathetic vein. He and we may gradually expect to

Guests." Ele said he believed it inspiring to see them come here at urged the desirability of the three return to normal conditions. When

was a red-letter day for the Hong. Dg the toast of the CE.M.S., said great expense and inconvenience to freedom-loving nations, China, the that time comes I confidently predict

kong branch of the C.E.M.S. They he was convinced that the Society themselves, and I am sure that we United States and Great Britain, that the service will be found equal

spoke of it as the C.E.M.S., but he was doing & great deal of good in the feel a deep debt of gratitude to them I have kept in touch with Mr. Hajung all for the contributions which ther/ combining in enterprise, and he to the occasion.

British manufacturers are holding sometimes thought it might be neces-Colony, and be thought it was a very expressed his keenness that clubssuch rapidly changing and adaptation to Hsi-ling, who handled the matter have brought to the deliberations of a most statesmanlike way. But this Conference. Conditions in China,

as the Union Club should be a these changes will be the order of display, of toys and various novel sary to explain what those letters great halp to men.

ties in December in the Exhibition stood for. They stood for comrade.stated that every man was more or the day. But some factors in" a though the conservancy scheme re- ferred to by the Tientsin delegate are so very varied. The currency

Consul's role remain permanent and Hall at Australia House, London.ship and christianity amongst all lens & mistionary. Those present on two of these have always laid Some comment has been made that men, which meant a great deal to must all feel that they had a very affected the lives of no less than question is an instance. I was rot here when the matter came up for dis-

special stress. One is that the Consul the hall should also be used for the them They believed that the important mission to perform in 40,000,000 Chinese, it was really a

cussion, but I can quite Imagine what

At night the official closing of the should keep in close touch with the exhibition of Australian food and Church Led & mission for men as China, and that they should compart small matter compared with the

other products, in order to bring well as for women and children, themselves in a proper spirit because Yangtze conservancy project, the must have occurred. Mr. Stephen, who 'Conference of the British Chambers British community and the other is them under the notice of British con-although there were other societies they were living amongst & race of

moved the resolution, must have of Commerce in China was marked that he should cultivate close per sumers, Australia House is rapidly that touched discussion of which immediately

told you how the dellar was soaring by a banquet at the Palace Hotel, at sonial relations with the Chinese followed. I had the opportunity of to untold heights, while the member which the Rt. Hon. Sir John Jordan, authorities. I have always been a becoming a rent proda er. A large They were honoured by the presence listening to the 'speech of the repte from Harbin would tell you how the GCI 2, KC.B., K.C.M.G, was the guest warm advocate of the interview.as firm, has seared the third floor at of distinguished guests. They had on the objects of the society; parti- sentative from Chinkiang. At first I

rouble was sinking into the deepest of honour of the delegates of the replacing of supplementing the writ. an annual rental of £4,000, and the with them the Governor of the oularly its social aspect. He hoped" thought it somewhat incongruous that such a. small port should depths. I feel sure that after this various Chambers present at the Conten dispatch, and my personal ex basement space is in demand for Colony, to whom they, extended a tit many who had returned is the resolution, but that Conference you will go back to your ference. The large dining room of perience is that questions are far entertainment purposes. It is report cordial welcome. He thought His Colony would become members. move this gentleman's speech showed ports and will think In terms of the hotel was used for the occasion more easily settled by talking over ed that a company has offered the Excelleroy namt feel at home in a Many of them had gained vahable

China as a whole and that you will and in addition to the guests there them than by writing about them. I Londen County Council a rental of once the breadth of view.

brought up in an ecclesiastical at existing members would greatly ap wib which the matter was regarded.t devote next year to the considera was a particularly large attendance have settled hundreds of cases ever a £55,000 a year for a 99 years Tease gathering of that kind, for he was experience, and he felt sure that the

of the Aldwych site, adjoining Then Hankow took it up exhaustion of the problems to come up at of British businessmen of Shanghai cigarette or a cup of tea which reams Australia House. The company in.mosphere. One of the roost distin.preciate the help such men would be.

next year's Conference. And so year Mr. H. A. J. Macray presided, of correspondence. would never have tends to establish a permanent extbed ecclesization was His Excel-able to give on various questione tively and I thought there was

Mr. A. J. J. Martin, thanked H.E. nothing more to be said until by year this Association will grow in with, Sir John Jordan on his right settled.

and M. 1. W. Jamieson, H. M.

hibition of British and Dominions lancy's father, Bishop Stubbs, a Chungking came on the scene and strength and influence.

manufactured goods, a commercial most learned man, a great teador, the Governor on behalf of the So gave us a very full account of things

Before sitting down I should like top table was occupied by their A few years ago the interior of intelligence bureau, and a buyers' and a very oble administrator. (Apciety for being present. on the upper Yangtze.

plause.) His Excellency had not Matters such as these cannot be to say one word, if I might, with Honours Sir Havilland de Sausmarez China was ar unknown land, re club.

been very many weeks in the Colony proposed a vote of thandra to Mestrs, Martin and Fleming, who had or- but he had been with them long dealt with by any one port and in regard to Mr. Fox, who has acted as and Judge Skinner Turner, judges of served for the more intrepid ex this Conference you have combined Chairman of the Conference in H. M. Supreme Court, Commodore plorer and missionary, who by a

enough to deserve what a good many anied the very pleasant evening your knowledge and focussed it on Committee. He seems to me to have Ellison, Mr. H. H. Fox, Commercial strange anomaly was the only

of those people surrounding him had which he and all prescot had thor

oughly enjoyed... the particular subject which you conducted your affairs with unusual, Counselor of Legation and other foreigner authorized to live in the Finterior. Now the interior is visited

An enjoyable mal programme "have had in. hand. It will be ability, fairness and good sense. I Consular officers.

this, ime of the year. They are when it we rather the practice to

followed. smrticularly danger is. A neglecticise the Government if it did not been- daly honoured. Mr. Macray business men, who are establishing cold my mean winter ling cild. Take questions put before him in such I would also like to mention the proposed the toast of Sir John Intimate relations with Chinese of Chamberlain's Cough Remedy at once. do its duty, but nothing was said

WALLA Launchi a comprehensive manner, I look for good work of your Secretary, Mr. Jordan, and spoke of the arduous every class. During a recent week for sale: by all Chemists and Store about it when it did its duty Of Spend your Evenings in a *' WALLA ward to reading the Minutes of Gall I have known Mr. Gall manytime Sir John had spent in Shanghai end trip to the provincial capital keo,em

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Conditions are

LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

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on those subjects. men of very keen observation.

Mr. L Forster replied. He dwelt

great support to Em Majesty's think we are all agreed-upon that. After the usual. loyal toast had regularly and widely by numbers of Recarofa of the co'ds you taco t boot doing Thoy lived in days Minister in Feking to have all these (Applause), aged

Dude they aut made mistakes, but

The Hon. Mr. Clarad Severn then

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