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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER

THE GOVERNOR ON THE HONGKONG UNIVERSITY.

TIPLADYS ITS MANY NEEDS.

APPEALS FOR A MILLION DOLLARS

GOVERNMENT PROMISES QUANTIN OF "MILLJON.

There was a large gathering present au overnment House last night when I sbo Oficer Administering the Government delivered a lengthy address on the uceds of the Hongkong University. His Excellency explained to the heating the different extension proposed, including a larger staff, playing grounds, & course in Journalism ind thousand and one other equipment necessary for a mordern and up-to-date University. He appealed to the whole Community generally and more particularly to the Chinese community to provide one and half million dollars for immediate needs. Flo also promised, on behalf of the Government 3250,000. plus any other sum which might be appropriated out of the Public Revenuc.

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At the meeting. II. E the Officer Administering the Government preside and was supported by Dr. . P. Jordan (the Pro-Vios Chancellor of the Univer mity) and the Hon. Mr. Lau 'bupak. Othe

Major-General Ventris C.R., the Hon. Mr. A. G, M. Fletcher, C.B.E., and Mrs. Fletches, Mr. Justice Melbourne Sir Elis Kadorie Sir Robert a Lady Elo Tung, the Hon Mr. Mel Mesir. OBR the Hor Mr. F. T. Walfe, the Hon. Mr. . 6. Alabaster, D.B.E., the Floh, Mr. E 1. Pitre, the Hon. Mr.

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the Hon. Mr. Ho Fook, Mr. W. Ross Thomson. De, W. MeReany, Archdea- ran Barnett, and Mr. Barnett, the Re..

Pearer.

the Rev. F. W. Martin. W. T.

T. Featherstant, Ilm

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D. Stewart, the Rev, W, H. Hewitt, the R... T. Waldegrave, the

Bro Aimar Professors 1. 6. Ear, A. G Warren... K. H., Digby and, D. Wright. Mesra, M. Bernard. E. Ralph B. Tacin, P. A. Redmond, T. S. Forrest.

"Ma atin. Chan Sai-ki, 'ban Kang. ra Wang Wei and Li Lans.

15 KXCELLENCY'S SPEECH...

His Excelener said: Your Excellency. Indies and gentlemen, I have asked you torom here today in order that I may enskavour to explair, as shortly as sible the present position of the Phi

ity of Hongkong and give ins tion of the Enantial assistance that will be reunired immediately and in the nonp fature in. order that the

Fniversis may be thoroughly well optipped for carrying I is now even years Since

actually started, and

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thence then in consirables.

has twen

penditure of the expitat of the University

the capital sunte given at the start and with the heat of generous donations from several genlenen who are here Fe day and from Chins erlenen ta th Straits Settlements. Canon, and else

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With these donating we have be able to provide one of the buildings that were Inking when the University pened: but much still remains to bas disne The staff of fecturers haut been large enough to allow of the professors giving that time to study which it is essential they shoulak ive, and for individual attention that i

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"position the University #trendy holds is that it had as its first Chanelor a man of warh brilliant ai

ani world wide reputation as in Charles Elion. I feel sure that while, w all lestre to congratulate hind on t high appointment that he has revised, wo wlus a very resete inss the University has suffered to bis having to it. It was a mean achievement on bis to ebark on the work of the Coferriss in 1912 with a very small staff and with wholly indequate svjuipment, buildings, materials, books and apparatu of all sorts. During varations in the Summer Sir Charles Elint was able me do much wrful work for the University. while negairing for himself, e pasion study, knowledge of classical Chines That our degrees are recognised througl out China is one of the results of Lis work. I will now rend to you a iriter have moved from Sir Charles Eliot un the subjees of the work already done and the future needs of the Eniversity. reads as follows:

"I have been so closely connecter with the University since it was first opened that it would be better far others to testify-as I hope they wilt" to the value and importance of that institution, unth for the Chinese nation and for British interests in the Far East; hut our friends may reasonably * baguire so much money, and perhaps, be well for me

to buy

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a for words on this subject. The pro portion borne by the fees to the total reveskin is remarkably high-higher, believe than in any Universities. This is very gratifying i

modern English My far as it shows that the University in

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is making money, but it

ention that the endowment is relatively snall When I arrived in Hongkong 1912 1 file that it would ha cowardly

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one, but ot to open the University at

stil! such an immediate open. ing was Gonncially very bold-and almost imprudent.

We had not the necessary buildings for a University. Munificent were the donations of Siz H. Mody and others, they made very inadequate provision for the residences of the staff, and none at all for the re- sidences of the students. There were no suitable buildings for

students

These

mon-Tour or for teaching any of medicine except anatomy deficiencies were made good part- out of the capital of the University and partly by the generosity of privato donors Further, the purchases out of its capital land at University has to Haldon," which cula irto our grounds and might prove a serious if left in the hands

rious impediment Araids

other owners expérience above that a con- sidigrable increase of the staff is neces sary. Chine students have not only to learn subjects which are new to them but to learn in a foreign language, They consequently require much more individual attention than the corre

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bonding class of students in Englead, and they are accustomed to receive it in acet of the schools and colleges opened by Europeans in China. It i imperative that the University should provide for its pupils more tutors (as distinguished from

professors

lecturers) and greater facilities for

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now deak-prooded His Excel· long with the nerds of the University as shortly as possible, and I propose to class them under the general heads f Halfdings, Staff and Equipment, za to state, tirst of all, the immediate require ants and then these things which are

rabh but which je ean wait for until the immediate requirements are satisfied. I have had the opportunity of studying. various minutes written by the Price Chancellor, by the Deans of the Faculties Engineering, Medicine and Arts, and by others. I have also drawn my ow Conclusions from personal observations, and if the resuls is not considered satis factors shall welenine any sugestions from enbsequent speaker?" mar

IMMEDIATE REQUIREMENTS,

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As regards haildings it is quite clear the time has come when we should haze proper administrative offices, a library and a Senate rout. These have all beeb housed in the main building in intended as arte-rooms. to the main hall and for teaching purposes. It has been sugested that the building for this pur prose might be erected on the large open space which was made when the Univer sity was built, above and behind the University, huilding. It has not lewa ush for anything in partielar during the era that have einperd racept for football and sometimes for lawn nais. I do not think is is used for tennis now. I do not agree with that proposal for two reasons. I consider that that part of the ground should be reserved for recreation

ismum or low or the vel of the hastel not very much below them and it is a sety good thing if tean le kept open and improved and made it the fengish and secondly, am of the upin-

20 that the administrative offices, Abrary, and Senate room, should he on the same level as the main building, an pected with it by a coverd war There is an excellent site which, I think. wald large rough for this building and of which I part, the vast at BIN0000, ADDITIONAL STAFF QUARTERS.

You will hear presently the larg addi rives which have been made to the sa and although we have acquired the pro- berty known La Haldon, which fude arge house and a smalt house, it is obvious that for married members of the staff w. shall have to erect suitable houses In some of which there may be space on The Haldon site. For immediate require rents I put the cost of buildings for the staff as $120,000

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Then a new host is required. present hostels -- there are three the Eniversity. St. Juba's and the Morrison Ifall-havy accommodation for about y

tudents. We bio as having 200 and wes Shall prepare for that or rather inge At any rate it would be wise to make. provision for at kast another 50. whiel in about the same number

can be accommodated in the two large, hostel. Theme of that Filling would-jirobably

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To comph to the new Union Juilding. which is now being wrested in front of the main building, to furnish it, and to pay If the of 291,000 whiels and the be ling from the tieneral Fund and

tip and furnish this new 'gion Build- ing about 800,000 is required."

Experience has shown that a University prass is required. It can be dine on in Comparatively small seale, at whauver machinery is go for it should be of the best kind For the present it would! possibly be stablished be a building near

trial station, and with its equip meni ate building would probably cont about $20,000. This press it is beped will be of great us in educating students in, duumalisai as part of an zepidemic

Then

I get the pbaff. already viken action. I may say,

We have with regard to the rat sdff wquired for all Faculties en enrld to wait. We had to strat considerably begond our means because it takes a long time to get

any part of the staff frora England. and the whole work of the University for this ission would has been directly paralysed if we had not done at

The Faculty of Bagineering: The following pusta are. Faculty in the same position as in Sential to place the „September 1913-A professor of physics, Ene thir in civil engineering, a lecturer in mechanical engineering, and an in- structor-in drawing Appointments to these posts are being made.

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Preally of Medicine: The Tollesing pats are essential and appointinents are wing made for, a professor of pathology, a professor of cherzistry. a professor of Tropical medicine to organi a depart ment for post-graduate teaching and re- sareh work, and a lecturer ur biologN The lecturer un biology is for both th Arts and the Medical Faculties.

Furnity of Art: The following ap- have matie-a professor cation to replace 2 lecturer, lecturer in political economy, a lecturer in English tutor in English and lecturer in Instury. There are also in ณ contemplation the creation of the posts of a lecturer in political science and con- stitutional history, a lecturer in educn tion, and a lecturer in zoology. It is especially necessary in this Faculty to provide for the needs of students from. North China by strengthening the depart ment in the training of teachers. It is expected that the number of saudents from North China, Sian, and Japan will, Lend to increase. Professor Wright has written an interesting memorandum on this department, bus time will not permit me to go into the matter in any detail.

In each Faculty certain expenditure will have to-be incurred for, equipment, and until the buildings referred to are available there will be a certain amount of congestion in the main building. I might say that some of the rooms in the main balding, which up to now have been used by the Engineering Faculty, were never intended for that purpose and are quite unsuitable.

The essential increase of the staff and higher salaries necessitated by the in- creused cont of living involve an expendi ture on the University of about 800,000, a year more than at present. this will

Fart of 1 hope, be made up in extra. feen, and part by another source, hut, far as I can see, there will be a sum of about 360,000 & year required, which: means the investment of a capital sum of 81,000,000. The buildings which I have referred to will cost about 8450,000 and equipment for the Faculty of Arts and new laboratories about 820,000.

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Now Lcome to mother necessity that the ground devoted to recreation should be improved and enlarged. The number of students will probably in- crease, and one of the main features of University life is the social side, both in outdoor recreation and in the common. room. Dr. Jordán will. I think, address

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you on this aspect because he has been going into the matter very recently. I should estimate that sum of about $10,000 4 required to make a large ground in the University suitable for such games as towa tennis and to erect

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small pavilion, A sum of at least $900 will be requiredto put the ground in Poktulum in order and to make an extension for tennis

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experience demand In point of fact

May -be preconced-the University founded principally meet a long-fult want of those of my compatriots" who aspired to ending their sons abroad for hirber modern education. Towards the provincial

dipl

end of the Manchu dynasty

examinations

and metropolitan abolished in favour of

mas, whether gained abroad or in China itselt. the winners of which were imme- diately admitted to offcial bonours. This pretion not only still holds go under The Republican Government, bai has even tep furthet fr s much as the holders of Eniversity diplomas are at once appointed to high positions and victed members of both Parliaments. Het as the Chinese saying goes, a vedie cannot be sharpened both

and

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in many instances, the Chinese youths abo were sent abrone at a tender age same ek with habits, tempers and ma ners entirely foreign, Lotally neglecting their

en mother-tongue and Branting their own birb and t

and

ku with patronizing wir, if not wish

E not wish contempt, pa if the latter. were their inferiors. Ambitious fathery who had built all sorts of hopes, on

on the future of their sons had nothing hus die Rust and disappointmwas to face on their homecoming Many such young men with foreign accouplishments, or

or rasher what in their self-sufficiency they reduled

necomplishments,

"kicked their hels about in their Fike

It will therefore, he seen that the immediate needs of the University require the sora of a million and a half dellars. Towards that sum the Government will contribute a quarter-of-a-million.

That sum of naney it to be taken out of part of the money realised by the local ship ping requisition schem and it is that part which catne so far as we can ap- Bi from shipping owned by Chinese. It is proposed to devotes that sum to the Cause of education, and the Secretary

of State for the Colonies has approved of apportioning 230,000 to the University. This um invested: at 6 per cent, will, produce $13,000 a year, in addition to' any help the Colony may be give out of the general publi

I now co to future requirements. There are already indications that the pre-matriculation work will grow in im- portance. It is practically impossible to insist that all students who come from distant places should be up to the Univer sity standard.in English, and it is work tha; requires sympathy and patience. It is quite impossible for the University staff to undertake it. After paying a tribute to the gratuitous work of Mr. Ponsonby-Fant who devoted 26 Boure & week to the riversity, besides spending much time

depresia care in preparing beers and merecting papers,

Excellency pro ceeded: We cannot parvent students frea coming here from remote placès, bas we car trke measures to ensure that before they attempt to matriculate thes should have mined the requisite standard of knowledge, experially in English. To in- augurate rh an institution will require onsiderable capital expenditure, but I a of opinion that for such speriat train ing the legs might reasonable charged sufficient by over to a great extent the cret of maintenance, including the prin cipal andi

tutors. The capital expendi tare may he put as $150,000 and the ano charge on the University Frads over and alive the fees at £5,000

Then there are two great needs to pus" the staff of the University on a more, or less permanens footing. They are a passage fund and a super-anncution fund. As regards & passage find I may say that recently assisted passages to England have been given on the same lines as thore granted by the Goverment to its officers, that is to say the difference between the prewar and posent rates have been paid by the niveßity.

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want to u further and grant free passages re gular intervals to England and hack. ne of the must formidable difficulties that untried man with a family has ince here is the provision of passages for him and is family, and it is or of which log should I relieved. It would.

suficient to provide an annual an for this pars The stablishment of a superannuation fund is a more formid able task. I should make it a ontributory schem on the lines of those almady in force in many of the mercantile others in this Colony. In the event of any member of the staff desiring to leave ni the cas clusion of his term of agreement the amount stating to his credit own contributions--with, perhaps, some un his addition: I cariot say-should be handed over to him. It is not possible to say now what annual kain would be required for the University's contribution: either five ur ten per cent of the salaries may be taken. It would probably not be less

than $25,000.

Then there are proposals for starting a Famite of Science and the teaching of wining and metallurgy, the erection of wurkshops, etc., to which I do not intend to refer to day, but is will be clear that pernrecent provision is to be made for pre matriculationpassng fund, a Super unfuntion fund, and for an addi tional staff in the Faculty of Science, a further increase of income of at least 250,000 a year will be necessary, or a capital investment of about $1,000,000.

Without liberal financial help, there fore, the Eniversity cannot carry on and develop its tk, as it

it must. perform the object

If it is

is to which it w . On behalf of the University authori it was found. ties I ask for that help. I appeal to the generosity of this rich and influential community, and I know that

I shall not Appeal in vain. Bat, essentin as money is it is only a part of what we ask for. We nek the commnity of this Colony to fly and realise all that the University stands for were and in Chica listened

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yesterday my an eloquent utteraner by a priest who has recently come from that Great country of Canada, and he took as hia

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waying the wise Solomon.

of If there is no vision the people perish, and the preacher traced how throughout the ages Empires had risen to might but. wing to the want of a clear vision, as ta their wal place and purpose in the world and to the growth of a complacent satis faction with material prosperity, they Tad all in turn sun to rise no more. have had this thought in mind in con- nction with our Tiniversity. It is

versity.

I would remind the gentlemen present. And through them the Chinese community in the folony that it is in a peculiar degree their University, and that it is their bounder duty to me that it is i to do all the great things which we hoped a position to do when it there is no vision founded. Where

that is. nation and enthusiasm are lacking the where imagi people that is the Empire, the nation. She Colony

•anet, may I

I add, any educa tional institutionu

must perish, I knew that you will not let this

happen, and I would like to quote again from the speech of Dr. Lim Boon Keng at the Congregation in January last: "In

In my humble opinion the University should not, and should never be in want of the neces Bry funds. If I might be bold to employ

fizure of speech I should call the University & great British lighthouse built upon the most prominent rock upon the China Coast. We are

building up structure not only in motering things

for things over and above the

thinks that

pre Tinible there are elements of greater permanenty with light to light up "kind": That is the vision, and I trust whole of man. that all of us, the Covernment of the Colony and the whole community, will de that it is-fally dominated. plause.)

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RO, MR. LA CHUPARR SPEECH The Hon. Mr. Lau Chuoak said the Tiniversity was like a thriving tree, the weed of which we sown by the" inint labour of the British and tha Chine. Toit its growth pntil ite branches stretch, as far and wide and anti hears fruits in handence, its planters Abould never aradce the necreary care and supply of nourishment, as time and

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with

own country f strangers in a

land

The regson was not far to

Deprived uf und removed from the en virments of their childhood at an age when they end hardly see on

think for themselves, they naturally returned with new ideas and thoughts which

Frompted them to disdain al with their people in ways thinner. th other hand their own people finding that they would not get on well with thu were cunipelled to give shen up as lost hopes. Withi wand to those who were sent abroad at a

mature age,

failed to learn. they the fawign languages

competently the

younger onrs. and incre in Tangunge [hitney

unavoid... ably followed by incompetency in know- l-3ནce

They, also did not prove to be

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of much use. It was with a view to re- dying this sad state of affairs that the thinking Chinese pus their heads together and scitated for an institution' wherein their youths could acquire the much. longed f

·for knowledge without Insing bach with the conditions and the charac teristics of the life of their owIT Ten. so that effect might be given to

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wholesale condemnation being not always wise;" Elengka was found to be the most suit-

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titif establishing such an in

because rear at hand the Chi- Bese youths would not lose their home intences, and because where Europeans and Chinese scelate freely in all walks of life they would be able to study one another and forms opinions more correct. When I visited Peking last year. I bad interviews with all classes of import- ant personages both Europear and Chi now he all agreed that what retards the progress of thina and bag giren rise to internal squabbles detrizental, to the welfare of the country is that the ne and the old elements do not mingle wall The conservatives, who are old admini- trators and cry of experience, and the progressives. who are mostly tudents educated abruad, if not entirely, Young at least to a large extent out på sympathy with old idrals and conveniens, are in daily confict both as regards opinions. and policy. If a medium class could be formed between the two from amongst men who are neither too old nor too new, thus wedding wgether the two extrame elements, there would be a great future.. before China. As the object of the Hong- kong University is to provide such un education as the Chinese have aspired to, that while their souths rep be as well educated on auders lines near honte as abroad, we can, therefore, look to it with confidence that in course of time. China will be th to draw from the ranks of the graduates of the Hongkong University material for the forming of the medion class I have mentioned, who will, tus ni hope, help to steer the Chinese hip of State clear of subenerged rocks and shoals to her proper destina tion amongst the ations of this world. Apart frou Chinese assistance, the British Movement, together with the British public, have given an litt for th. Hong- kong University. As a matter of fact. they bave given as rouch for it as if thy institution was founded entirely for the benefit of their own youths. entirely for the benefit of their own But is it youths' Emphatically no. The majority of the who are benefited by it are we hinese, for our number predominates over that of any other section of tho community of this Colony, and China is the east country to it. I may say that, in time to come, the Hongkong Univer sity will become a legacy from our British friends to us. As such, it behaves ne to de our most to help to build it up and nhan its value, s as to be worthy of it and joy its benefits felly. Ap plunse).

D: G. F. JORDAN'S SPEECH. Dr. G. P. Jordan, the Pro-Vice-Chun- cellor, set forth the immediate require ments of the University from the point of view of physical culture. He Anid: One of the Erst points, and which alto- gether constitutes my appeal on behalf of the students of the University, is one of a playing-ground and tennis courts. Unfortunately, as we stand today there, is not a single tennis court within the precincts of the University for the stu- dents to play on.

A little while ago there was a piece of ground which has been absorbed to-day by the Union build ing. This state of the things cannot con- tinac The University must have within easy reach of the students tennis courts where they can come down at very short intervals and play games, refresh their bodies, and thus allow the development and culture of the mind. Therefore, we require four tennis courts to be erected immediates. It involves rather a heavy outlay, but I hope that it will be readily responded to. In connection with this I might mention the Union baildings, which is one of the immediats requirements The architects have put up a magnificent building which we hope to open ver shortly lacluded in this building is a library a beautiful room, which will look. beautiful when we have books to make up & library. We have got a library in anne but we have no books of any consequence to put into if I appeal to you on behalf of the students to help as form that library, to cultivate the mind in that building as they cultivate the body out- side in the tennis courts. His Excellency bas just reminded me that I should ake it clear that this is not the University library I am speaking of, but a sperini library for the Student's Union. Also. in connection with the other requirements of the students I wish strongly to impress

"HELLO, EXCHANGE!”

THE NEW TELEPHONE DIRECTORY HAS AN ADMONT. TORY LINE AT THE TOP OF EACH PAGE.

Pronounce "I" long in "Nine." The cultured young knut who asks for "Nane Nane O Fave" is also asking for trouble.

Speak close to Transmitter-A megaphone, attached to the instru ment, will, however, obviate the necessity for an intimacy which may be distasteful to you.

Give your name or number before conversation. All right, all right; but it is of greater importance to ascertain the name or number of the party at the other end of the wire. If you don't, and you start right. away by asking "Is that you, old thing?" and, instead of your fiancee, it happens to be her mother-you will never want that number any more.

Do not touch receiver rest while speaking. Otherwise you will be. aorry for it. You will be immediately disconnected; and have you ever heard of anyone getting the same number tivice in one day 2-

Train staff in use of telephone-If your staff consists of glad-eyed flap- pers, the lessons" should not exceed two per day, and the course of "ins- truction" should not, in any case, last longer than four weeks. If your staff consists of men, this rule, peed- less to say, falls in abeyance.

Answer telephone promptly. Good time, in an average-sized office. from the farthest point of the room to the instrument, is 3 2-5 seconds. You can probably improve on this if you are expecting a call from (1) a rich uncle; or (2) your best girl..

Replace receiver when finished.- Don't throw it across the room or out of the window. A paper weight will relieve your feelings just as well, and you may want to use the 'phone again.

Report troubles to supervisor. Reports limited, however, to ten per day per subscriber. But you will never use up this number. Oh, yes! there will be plenty of "troubles," but, your patience will give out before the supervisor's:

If wrong number connected, advise telephonist-but the rules of courtesy and politeness still to apply. It is good practice, before reporting a wrong number, to take twenty deep breaths, at the same time exercis- ing your facial muscles; or to read a short paragraph from Lord Chesterfield's letters to his son; or a few lines from Marcus Aurelius. You will (or should) then be in the proper frame of mind to "advise the telephonist.

Emphasise consonants when giving Tumbers. Nevertheless, her, as always, moderation is advisable. If you ask for s-s-s-s-seven. $-3-s-s-six two S-5-5-3-seven, the operator will think you are joking; and she much- ly prefers the jokes which she herself, plays on subscribers. More over, the art of rolling one's r's properly, is not to be acquired outside a telephone exchange.

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Give name of exchange first.-The reason for this is apparent. mediately she hears any number, the operator, by force of habit says 'engaged." If you leave it at that, she is one up. If, however, you give the exchange first, the operator-also by "force of habit--grabs the corre sponding plug. In the jugglery which then ensues, you may even get the number you require. In that case,, you have won the match.

LADY DIANA COOPER.

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Lady Diana Cooper, better known perhaps as Lady Diana Manners, who has only recently returned from her honeymoon, met with an unfor tunate accident when watching the Hyde Park firework display.

Lady Diana was among a party of friends, invited by Major Norman E. Holder son of Sir Edward Holden, chairman of the London Joint City and Midland. Bank-to witness the display from his house, No. 6, Green-street, Park-lane. The party had assembled on the roof the better to overlook the park.

During the exhibition Lady Diana stepped on a skylight in the roof, and fell through to the floor below, a distance of twenty feet. The injuries she suffered from the fall were very severe, and included a broken thigh.

Sir Arbuthnot Lane and other surgeons were quickly in attendance, and Lady Diana was moved into one of the bedrooms on the top floor, which was converted into a sick room. She is suffering from shock and slight cuts, and it is believed that the fracture is not compound.

on your minds the immediate need for a gymannaiam, His Excellency also alluded to, the cricket and football field which ara required for the University. We all, In schoolboys, are familiar with the com mon adage. We see Universities spring. ing up to the right of us and to the left of us. The latest, as you have seen in the Hapers, is the University of Amoy. You factor has come forward and offered- may have noticed that a Chinese beze- immediate donation of one million dollars and a further donation of three or four million dollara. 1 venture to hope that Hongkong and, ber erchants will not allow themselves to be beaten by a count port. I wish to draw your attention to what His Excellency said just now of Dr. Lim Boon King'e great allegory. I say that the beacon light of the Univer sity is Bickering to day Gentlemon, you are not going to allow that light to Bicker and go out Burely net (4

Jause).

The meeting closed with the customary! compliments.

KUT MEN'S FATE

(Continued from Fage 8.)

Mr. Elkin defending)); And was their cold-blooded policy to get as much labour as the men could stand. It was a cruel, harsh, inhuman- system and the hospital Bagtsche was part and parcel of that system, being under the control of the companynt. Hardy replied that he could not peak as to this.

40 MEN IN SMALL TRUCK, Company Quartermaster Sergeant Reginald Maidment, 2nd Dorsets, said he saw Fratel walking about with a German nurse. There was a strike for better treatment for the sick, but

we got no saastuction, he sai "and 21 of my men died in July and 29 in August."

Maidment told of the terrible rallway journey on September when the British prisoners lett Bagische. They were crowded into railway trucks half the size of those in this country, 30 nr 40 being in his truck. The journey lasted eight hours and no special accommodation was made for the sick from hospital 20 out of 40 dyine on the way. Frati said the sisi, had to go.

Mr. Elkin suggested that Maid- ment was trying to put on Fraters. shoulders responsibility for condi tions which were admittedly abomin able...

Maidment: As British medical officer he could, if te liked, have got a lot out of the Torks. Fratel "evi- dently had a good job. He lived well, had comfortable quers, and "knocked about like a lord""*

Maidment aged that Fratel under Dr. Conus a Germas. He occasion when Frate refused admis (Maidment) was a present on any sion to hospital.

Re-examined, Maidment repeated a statement made to him by Corporal Cole that when he took a mad named Fenny to hospital in a dying condition Fratel was lying on his bed. He refused a come out fand attend to Penny.

Gunner Thomas Austin, R.GA said Genner R. Nebe was practically dying from dysentery when he belped him to hospital. Frate! came out and said to Nebe: There is not much the matter with you. You can go back to your camp and get to work," pushed him with his foot, and called, hit a white- livered-

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Captain Eastwood: What did you understand from that?

Austin: That we had lost the war and our country was out of it.

Mr. Elkin asked what was the punishment for a man who refused to work.

Austin: He would lose his ration and be flagged. Gunner Nebe was taken down for a dogging,

. Mr. Elkin; That, was what was' called "The dier."-the raw bide whip? Yes, I have had it myself so I know what it is..

Austin further said. "If we did not work well enough we were flog ged by the man in charge."

FRATEL'S CIGARETTÈ., Corporal Cole, late of the Porseta, said he took a man named. Phillips to hospital suffering tom chronic dysentery. He was only just com scious and could not wait. He (Cole) found Fratel on his bed smelting, and told him a man "outside was dying. Frated replied. "You must wait for the medical officer." Cole told him he ought to be ashamed of himself, Two hours later Fratel ordered Cole carry Phillips into an Arab tent. Later, Cole said, he "took Penny to the hospital suffering from dysentery and fever. Fratel said, "Take him back to camp and let him go sick to-morrow morning." He gave him no medicine. Penny died in camp next morning.

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Sgt. Maj. Samuel H. Field. R.GA, said out of the 150 mea in his camp 50 died and 40 were in hospital. He remembered a letter being seat to sergeant majors warning them that if they sent men to hospital without a medical certificate they would be punished. Two men Sergeant Bocher and Sergeant Trice, were ill in his tent, the former with beri-beri, and enteritis, and the latter with dysentery. Both were sent back from hospital. Bocher died a few hours later. Guner Wiseman, also- turned away from hospital, died in" camp.

DEATHS IN A TRAIN.

On the railway joumey to Bagtscher there were no medical supplies, am 30 far as he knew no food for the sick, while the others had only a loaf of bread each. Many died in the train.

Cross-examined Field admitted that-months afterwards, when re leased, he met Fratel and other war- rant officers. They celebrated, the occasion by a little dinner, and after- wards went to the theatre, where 2 they saw The Importance of Being Earnest" He would not have joined the party had he known Fratel was a guest. He denied that he shook hands with Fratel

Field said that not even water was In reply to the Judge Advocate, put in the train for the sick.

The Court adjourned.

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