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There the matter remained until July 27th, and we knew she would not break off the ue condemnation of secret diplomacy as Sir and then Conat Matternich made me the gotiations. Neither did, we believe Germany Edward Grey's speech. The time had following communication: Wo brast that would do that, but still there was the come when an inquiry should be under- Bir Edward Grey, by our gory open and possibility that the negotiatious might be taken to ascertain the best way of keep candid communication, has gathered the broken off, though personally. I nevur re-ing the House of Commons in touch with conviction that our pourpariers with France Regotiations have been satisfactorily tormi wished Mr. Lloyd Cleorgo's speech to garded it as a probability. Now, however, the foreign affairs. It the Government at the moment do not touch British internated; and I need only deal briefly with have a pacific effect, it should have been esta. We trust to the Minister's great what would have been the position had followed immediately by a pronounce lavalty that he has so often shown that he there been a deadlock. The most stop meat by Sir Edward Grey explaining will find it possible to state this fact in touch Gircumstances, would have been why it was made. The situation in Persia Parliament without, however, giving details for some Power; a party to the treaty made him suspect there was a secret of our confidential communication. Wo

Public Steamers from Hongkong. acknowledge with pleasure that the minister of Algeciras, to proposa a conference. understanding with Russia. Fas stated he desires an agreement between At the time anxiety was felt, a reply re opinion was diametrically opposed to a 0. APCAR ceived from Germany pointed to the fact policy involving a partition of Perala, or NAMSANG Germany and France and feel quite con- that they would not be agreeable to a con-making England the tog! of St. Fetors- KUMSANG edent that this will prove most helpful to ference. That was why the anxiety was burg.

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Mr Dillon and Mr Sykes (U. also ic view, however, the wish pressed by Sir created but supposing a conference had been Edward Gray we cannot quite see how he proposed and Germany had not agreed denounced the socracy of diplomaty

thereto, what would bave been the situation can in the present state of the pourparlers then ? You would have bad France, Ger- SIR EDWARD GREY'S REPLY describe our demands as obviously impos-

Sir Edward Grey, replying to the sible, without knowing what we on our side any, and Spain in occupation of parts of debate, said he had no information by had the intention to offer to France in the tries making agreements on questions to which to prove or disprove the reports political and colonial torritorial field. It is not-possible, having regard to the pledge of which we had not been made party, and of atrocities at Tripoli. The Govern secrecy we have given, to enter into details Probably making agreements which we could went bad adhered to the policy of non- He dealt "chiefly with Lot recognise in settlement until we bad but as the territories to be eventually been consulted. Therefore, you see that at Persia, and said it was an cesential com exchanged are exclusively German and French, we do not believe that special the time the anxiety was felt negotiations dition of independence that account English interests will be touched, and it were developing towards the most delicate should be taken both of Russia and soems advisable to leave it to the two parties diplomatic situation. I hope my statement Great Britain. The Persian Government, immediately concerned to form an estirate as to the events which occurred will remove instead of seeing Russian interests' re of the value of the objects to be eventually any apprehensions. That statement is the spected, sought to thrust out Russian truth of the actual facts as they existed, and influence. That was a perfectly hopeless exchanged. Adverse criticism from the

egotiations more difficult. English side must obviously render the in view of these facts there is now no pros

On the unit pect of war, The statement ought to have hand a public statement that. England a quietening induence and ought to act as a would be pleased to see the successful con- dative to those who had become alarmed. Turning to foreign policy generally, he said clusion of the Franco-German pourporters would bare a most beneficial influenca en he thought the wisest policy for Great Brit-

VIEWS OF BRITISH PRESS. an auspicious result for which we most ear an was to expead further as little as

The papers genomaly join in a chords nestly hope. We most seriously wish to possible, especially in Africa. Replying to diminish any points of friction with France the criticisma regarding the alleged secrecy of praise for Sir Edward Grey on what they tion of foreign policy made in the House of in the colonial sphere, especially in Africa, of the Foreign Office, he stated that only describe as the masterful and lucid exposl and hope that it may be eventually he last week the secret article of the Amalie Commons for a generation, firmly establish Lowest Prices & Full Farticulars on Application to 9 p.m.---St. Andrew's Ball in City Hall. possible to make them disappear entirely. French Convention of 1904 had been made ing the pillas of British policy. They He could not look forward, even if this was public. There were no other secret treaties. hope that the conciliatory overtures will

the spirit done, to establishing intimate relations with No British Government could embark on be received by Germany in

war without the support of public opinion. which they are made. France, but we believe it would do away (Cheers.) He pointed out that years ago The exceptions are the Daily Neurs, and, with the cause of frequently recurring tension if the wishes of England are in the there were plenty of "excursions and to a less extent, the Worming rider. The The best way to help alarms" with France and Russia, but their former criticises Sir Edward Groy's ne

counts same direction.

of the events, and dissents from his cordial friendship now provided a mutun suggestion that we have got to take siden bring about this

in Europe. The would be by exercising & calming induence tolerance, and prevented dificulties that

journal says that the on prblic opinion in France, which just might otherwise arise. Germany's strength abandonment of the policy of isolation now, by haf truths and inaccurate state was of itself a guarantee that pone would manat years of unprecedented anxiety ments, has been brought to considerable seek a quarrel with her, but the derman expense, and there was no prospect of in- than that shown by Sir Edward froy. It was hardly to be expected, con-excitement." Six Edward said: You will public ought to remember that the nation provement unless sought in a bolder spirit was friendly all round, to France as well as very big navy, and building a bigger navs with his policy. The Morning Leader ax Prenses downright good will to Germans public opinion, that Sir EDWARD ourselves. I expressed my appreciation of must de all in its power to prevent natural GREY's masterly, lucid and unimpas- the friendly kone of the communication to apprehensions arising in the minds of others. among as, which is not adequately or sioned statement made in the House the Ambassador, and I had some further however, did not believe that, Germany preased by Sir Edward Grey's cautio Destroys WHITE ANTS and prevents decay.

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The Tageblatt says that, according to Sir GEUROE's Mansion House speech base had been in a form which I could not interest, wo should have failed to protect our Edward Grey. Enginnd wants to live on had been forgotten and a legend had use to allay the suspicion aroused hers. interests and fulfil our obligations to France. footing of equality with Germiny buty hin | suggested, however, to the Ambassador that the question had been permanently scatterincos prove that England this sumpor taken its place. All that England we should not pursue this point, and Iartled the part we had taken had contriplaced herself or higher fnoting that of asked for and insisted on was that pressed the hope that this latest German buted materially to the expectation of peace, controller of the world. Germana would she should not be ignored whenever communication might be taken as the new and he trusted that would be the sense of not tolers e an unlimited right of veto:

Tho Rundschau anys the speech was a starting place and that we need not go back the House. (Loud and prolonged cheers.) great.questions of international mo- upon things which must lead to mutua!

disappointment to rll hoping for a deci sivo change in the direction of an Anglo- ment were discussed by the Powers recrimination. The French Government

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Grey's speech alters nothing in political The Vassische declares that Sir Edward beply con unic detail, in druge tits Sir Edward Greg's statement which he conditions or feelings. its zenith and was tottering rapilly to Eritish interests were not involved in the desired to criticise, but he would like to ances of the British Ministor are not The Borreen Courier any that the utter- decay. There was no assumption of proposals and counter proposals made in point out that there was de anti-Garman feel calculated to inspire over-mach bapo as to | dictatorship in this attitude, no desire

the course of the negotiations and every tog in this country. An Anglo-Geriau warn improvement in Anglo Gorman relations thing we said or did was in the direction of to take a loftier place at the Council helping and nct impeding, the negotiations would be no inconceivable calamity. He table of Europe than that occupied to reach settlement.

thought the Premier should have spoken in by the other great Powers And that nature of the tension that existed. An than outside. Ha desired that every ground I-prop se now to examine the real the House regarding the negotiations rather

A REMARKABLE SPEECH. In the House of Lords, Lord Lansdowne was the idea at the back of Mr Thorn agrement has now been reached be of friction between curselves and Germany of the most remarkable ever delivered, wulogised the speech, describing it' as one GEORGE's mind when he spoke the tween the Franch and German Governments should be removed. We do not want any As a former Foreign Secretary he conced words which have been ad greatly gain and the fact that this bag more territory," added Mr Bonar Law amidat what he believed was a general deure for misinterpreted-

accomplied in the face of all the excitement enough already."

"Our responsibilities are great better relations with Germany. that existed reflects great credit on the As to the question as to whether diplomat conducting the negotiations. Sir EDWARD GREY's speech will But desp these facts the present moment PRIMER ON, BRITAIN'S POLICY. effectually clear the air and dissipate and in many to excite themselves to has been chosen by some people both here the warlike mirage that has gathered discuss to how near we came to wor

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rash as to prophecy. The great depths opinion from whatever gossip or mforma-

take a delight in suggesting or forming an a clearer and fuller disclosure of the foreign EVENING WEAR. of national feeling have been stirred tion they an get in my quaring that we policy to the House of Commons. All re-approval of the specil, witich they say will on both sides of the North Sea and it are near war, and the nearer wa are to sonable men, however, would admit that reassure Europe and help to maintain will take a long time, we imagine, get out of the fact Really, it in as it the diplomacy was of necessity secret. No penso before we hear the last mutterings of world were suffering from a it of political cards on the table, the doors open and the country could carry on diplomacy with its the groundswell which follows the Faber's, Unionist MP, for West Hants blinds down up. Negotiations must be car-

alcoholism. Referring to the speech of Mr. storm. England through her Foreign speech made at Andover on Nov. 17th ried on under the shroud of confidence with meat policy with regard to Morroco, and

Lord Courtenay attacked the Govern Secretary has demonstrated to Ger-whoreis it was alleged that the Cabinet was more or less secrecy, which was quits a complained that Sir Edway Grey appeared

divided on the question of supporting Francs, different thing from being kept in darkness to believe that it was impossible to VICTORIA THEATRE. many the hearty goodwill which really the Navy was unprepared and divided and as from the representatives of the people. linh the same cordial friendship with the Foreign Residences in Japan, and has been awarded the

animates the majority of her people had lost sight of the German fest He said quite frankly that the Government Germany as with FrancsU, towards the lenders of the Teutonic Sir Edward Grey said: I only mention could not be guilty of such a charge. On

the matter because that speech formed the general question the Government was THE CABINET'S - DETERMINA. nations; the loading newspapers of the subject of some recent discussion in the actuated by humans considerations in safe all shades of political opinion emphs- Reichstag, and I understand it somewhat guarding British interests and performing the Anglo-French agreement of 1904 was intensited the bitterness of the German treaty obligations, which be believed had Fize his words, and in many cases people. Of course I know it is possible for been reciprocal to the advantage of our friend in to wiso hostile to Germany. Moreover

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ite essence was that Britain should have whose sincerity can not be doubted; "peeches made in the Reichstag, not official and we had no desire to stand in the light in Morosso. It would be intolerable if we,. while members of Parliament have pesches, to which we durselves might take any Power wanting to and its place in the after taking our share of the profits, in any

reasonable objection: As far as Mr Faber sun. We had no such purpose and no auch wise refused France hers also risen in their places and testified speech is concerned, he shot an official wish. We believe," the Premior saldie Refering to Germany, he said there to the cordial feelings which they member. Then there are other speeches is both to var interent, and duty that we was no reasons why Germany's naval ox- entertain for Germany, her people, might also give us reason to feel hitter, but all be the more glad if we can enlarge them friendship which was parvading the whole which have been made in Germany which should maintain our friendships. We shall pension should impair the desire for cordial and her Ideals. Surely all those things one speech leads to another in these matters to include others we know of no cater to

nation. Germany's greational progress of All Kinds cutitled ber will be taken into account when Ger- and I can only do my best to alleviate the quarrel with any of the Fawers Britain's ideals and lofty ambitions, and the many comes to review the situation auspicions which have arisen by examining interests will always be so maintain the peace dare to find territories far has

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