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THE CHINA MAIL.

THE LATE SIR HORMUSJÆL MODY.

Parsee community was held at the Parsoo Club, Elgin Street, on Monday, the 7th inst., at 6.30 p.m., when almost all the. members of the Community were prosent, to express their profound sorrow and regret at the death of their highly respected President and lender, Sir Hormusjes Mody, Zoroastrian Charity Funds. and to elect in his place a Trustee of the

An extraordinary` `general moeting of the

¡ Here we come to the crux of the whole trouble between the Government and its opponents. Has the nation given adeliberate decision," not only in favour of more clearly defining the poivers between the two Houses, but in support of the precise Bill which the Upper Chamber has conceived it to be it's duty to considerably modify Mr Asqurra'a contention : The Chairman, Mr M. P. Talati, senior is very naturally, that it has. But trustso, in a touching speech, referred to

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 9, 1911

BY TELEGRAPH. BY TELEGRAPH. BY TELEGRAPH.

[Corrsion.]

THE VETO DEBATE.

VOTE OF CENSURE DEFEATED.

Conclusion of the Premier's Spooch.

one beliores would or could give a state of the political situation and of all substantially different result. It is no the matters in dispute, of which Home good blinking facts. These are the real, Rule was one of the most important. facts of the situation. We have bean face! He reproached Lord Hugh Cecil for to face with the precise situation contem talking of the possibilities of riot and plated by all our great authorities on the disorder when 70,000 dockers, some Constitution to justify what is admitted hungry, were actually on strike in to be an wholly exceptional use of the Lendon prerogative. If we want a precedent, I The Government, he said, bad refused return to the case of 1939 and again all the Lords amendments but they (Reuter's Servies to the China Mai) cite the classic passage on the subject in proposed to insert amendment provid

Losos, Aug. S. which Earl Grey said in the House of ing that the Speaker shall consult Continuing his speech in the House Lords "I ask what would be the con- responsible members of both sides, of Commons, during the debate on the sequence if we are to suppose that such namely the Chairman of Ways and although he sought to magnify to the irruqurable loss caused to the con- roto of censure moved by Mr Balfour prerogative did not exist or could not leans and the Chairmain of Fablic constitutionally be exercised? The Accounts, before deciding whether a to the utmost limit the fact that the/munity by the death of Sir Hornico, the Premier Laid :-We are dealing with | Commons have control over the power of Bill is a Money Bill. They also propos

recounting his various charities, the most question of the Lords veto had been munificient of which being the endowment a Bill the principle of which has been the Crown by the privilege in an extreme ed a few minor amendments including a before the country in two General of the Hongkong University Baildings, twice confined in two successive case of refusing Supplies. The Crown new clause forbidding the extension of which will always romain a monument of Houses of Commons. We are dealing of mans of its power to dissolve the life of a Parliament beyond a period

the House of Commene, control upon any with a Bill regarding which we have, violent and rash proceedings on the part AMENDMENT REJECTED. Elections, he was careful to admit

his gonerosity. that only "the main principles" of á resolution was then adopted amidst not asked for the exercise of the Royal of the Commons, and if the majority in the Parliament Bill were before the profound silence to record in the books of prerogative until it had gone through the Lords is to have the power of op people at the Jannary election. That the Zoroastrian Charity Funds the. Parase all ita ataque in the House of Lords. In posing the declared wishes of the people rejected by 348 to 209.

and the Crown and the people are with community's high appreciation of Sir Hor. Lord Grey's case (in 1339) there had out any means of modifying that power, KING'S SECRETA=Y'S VISITS.

of five years.

Lord Huge Cecil's amendment ran

LATER,

On

is a most important admission, for it musjee's devotion to their interests and of been one election, and one election only, then this country is placed entirely. AN IDEAL SOAP FOR SENSI has to be borne in mind that the Peers his indefatigable services as President.cx- ( He demanded the exercise of the Royal | under the influence of an uncontrollable themselves at this time favoured reform tending over the long period of 25 years prerogative before the Bill bad even oligarchy." That is true constitutional

Lord Knollys, Private Secretary to the and their deep sorrow and regret at his been in commisice in the other House. doctrine. There is nothing parel in it, King, called yesterday afterapon of the Upper Chamber and their sub-death. It was decided to forward to Lady Well, I make Mr Balfeur à present of and it is being applied to-day simply Lord Crewe and then paid a visit to

in a case of extreme and overwhelming Downing Street, sequent action on the Parliament Meily a copy of the above resolution. any benefit he can get from the analogy. Bill was only against the measure-

It was further resolved to place in the The truth is, this is a far stronger case Club an oil painting of Sir-Hermunjos | Mody and also of the late lamented Trust in every one of its details. But then

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in so far as they believed it to misinterpret the desires of the country,

necessity, I am accustomed, as Earl, Grey in his day was necustomed, to be accused of a breach of the constitution.

aven of treachery to the Crown. Leonfess,

MR ASQUITH INDISPOSED.

Losos, August S.

and Secretary, Mr B. L. Battliwara, is you may say, and are entitled to as I said before, I am not in the fest Air Asquith is offering from. So for all practical purposes the Bill memory of their long and indefatigable Say: The country has spproved of the sensible to this cheap form of vitupera laryngitis owing to the strain occasioned

can only be regarded as having been under the consideration of the people 9.30 p.m.- Legislative Council Meeting in the election of Inst December. The point, therefore, is whether the result of that election can be reason-

General Memoranda.

SATURDAY, August 19-

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Yearly Meeting.

FRIDAY, August 19:-

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SATURDAY, August 19:-

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3: A. B. Avasin was elected a Trustee place of Sir Hormusjes and the proceed inga terminated with the customary vote of thanks to the Chairman and the

Trustees.

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL..

Four New Bills.

the terms of the measure under In addition to other sasures further

were many

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Council meeting

A fill entitled An Ordinance to further amend the Protection of Women and Girls

Ordince, 1897.,

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questions at issue and nobody can rightly say that the verdict of the

A Dill entitled An Ordinance to amend country was a deliberate pronounce the Arsal Ammunition Ordinance, ment upon merely one of these, the 1900 Parliament Bill, which, indeed, many Establishment of a Hospital for the cute A Bill entitled An Ordinance for the people regarded with

utter in-and treatment of Chinese patients in the HONGKONG, WEDNESDAY, Acnear 9, 1911. | difference. We have even noticed Kowkein Puninsala. -

The China Mail.

THE VETO DISPUTE.

THE debate in the House of Commons

tion. It has been my privilege, almost by his speel. He was unable to attend a unique one, to serve and have con- the House of Commons la dry.

dential relations with three successive Sovereigne My conscience tells me THE PREMIER AS "CRIMINAL.". that in that capacity, many as have been my failures and shortcomings, I Lord Hugh Cecil moved that consider have consistently striven to uphold the ation of the Parliament Bili be postponed dignity and just privileges of the for three months. He expressed his Crown, Bat I hold my office not only regret that Air Asquith was ill, but by the favour of the Crown but by the nevertheless he would like to see him confidence of the people, and I should punished by the criminal law. be guilty indeed of treason, if, in the This utterance caused supreme moment in a great struggle, I outburst from the Ministerialists, and were to betray their trust. (Ministerial appealed to the Speaker.

MR F. E. SMITH IRONICAL

LATER.

an angry

The latter remarked that ie was only a pious opinion.

Lord Hugh Cecil continued that the Premier was guilty of high treason in attempting to overthrow one of the Houses of Parliament.

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Liberals claiming the election of Joseph Horsford Kemp, Esquire, Barrister and nothing but the Bill. But, as debate, stated that the Government' denunciations of the Government's abuse

December as a final judgment on the tariff reform question!

It follows from the line we

have

the Court and to provide for the payment of malicitors' custa in cases in which salaried Crown Solicitor or Assistant Crown Solicitor acts as solicitor.

Bill, but have the Lords gone beyond their legitimate sphere of amendment and reconstruction within the limits of the principles which the country has so approved? Well, I had the answer to that question a few moments ago from the other part of the House. Let us see what the Bill is now. Is it the Bill which the country has approved? Does it bear any but the most superficial notice. Our view is that no election advanced, the following Billa are down for resemblance to that Bill? I see some learned commentators maintain that Srst reading "at Thursday's Legislative there are some fity-seventy lines of the cheers.) of modern times has been more | indecisive. There

Bill as it is returned from the Lords which are identical with the Bill us it loft the Commons. Yes, but it has had

Mr Smith's speech was notable for the grafted upon it in Lord Lansdowne's ironic allusions to Mr Balfour and Lard amendment the very alternative which. Lansdowne, The latter, he declared, HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE. the country-repudiated. And here had given Mr Asquith a list of peers as

LATER. ing this case from the Reform Bill and the Government not a penny worse off; many Pecresses and diplomatists being comes in another vital point differentiata contribution to the resolution. Mr

Balfour's role of censure would leave The House of Lords waa-crowded, favouring the constitutional course ancther policy would have led to other in the Galleries, when Lord Curzon rose parsued by the Government in 1832. results.

to move a rote of censure on the. A Bill entitled An Ordinance to enable It was question of the. Bil Mr Churchill, in winding up the Government, re-emphasing Mr Balfour's at-law, to practice as Crown Solicitor in everbody knows, in December, 1910, 400 or 500 peers, and said, in conclusion, Lord Curzon strongly denied that the

would not shrink from the creation of of their powers. that was not the question. There was You censure us because we are going. Lords had transformed the Bill and said the Bill on the one hand, and Lord to paas Home Rule in this Parliament the Government had refused the amand- Lansdowne's scheme on the other, the So we are."

menta in order to facilitate the passing of a series of measures which the referendum and all the rest of it, and

majority of the people did not desire. I may add, as Mr. Balfour has chosen to

Lord Crewe, explaining the transa- introduce the topic of Home Rule, that

tions with the King, said at the interview which His Majesty had with: on the Opposition side there was not a

Mr Asquith and himself on November single speech made by a single gentle

15th, His Majesty's view was sought as to man whom I see on the front bench

whether, if the opinion of the country during the general election of 1910 in

was clearly defined by the General which the country was not warned

Election, the creation of additional Peers against Home Rule, and by nobody in

might in the last resort be the only way faced these contingencica and entertain- clearer terms than Mr. Balfour. (Mr.

of concluding the dispute. His Majesty Austin. Chamberlain, interrupting---I

ed the suggestion, although with only alluded to it in a single speech.) Mr.

legitimate reluctance. The King malur-- ally felt, as did the Government, that Asquith, continuing, said I apologise,

Eighty Liberal peers have intimated if the Government resigned and a but although he said it in only a single their intention of supporting the Dissolation followed, it would be.

that Government if a division be taken on practically impossible to keep the Crown speech he said it so emphatica

ont of the controversy. This that speech was placarded on almost the Velo Bill in the House of Lords.

distastefn! to The newspapers anticipate that the naturally most every wall in every constituency. But what is the ass of talking of that? House of Commons will to-day discuss Majesty

Lord Haldane said that no sane èr Everybody knows that was the bogey the Lorde' amendments seriatim instead

rational Minister, could have, given- tried to buy votes for the referendum set up by gentlemen opposite. They of rojecting them en bloc.

other advice to the King. No other by representing that the effect of the

SIRE. CARSON'S STRONG course was open to the Government

WORDS.

unless they were to End themselves in the Parliament Bill if carried would be to

humiliating position of acknowledging carry Home Rale, so that we have here

LONDON, August 8. that the Constitution had broken down again a much stronger case I am

Sir Edward Carson in the House and the present situation, bad, become Leave of absence, on privata affairs, to dealing now only with the constitutional of Commons to-day said the National- irremediable. the neighboring countries, has been question-for the exercise of the royalists had dominated the situation

on Monday night arising out of Mrtaken, that our view is that Mr BALFOUR's motion censuring the Asquith wrongly read the verdict Government for au abuse of Constitu- of the people at both the General

S. MOUTRIE & CO., LD, to powers in advising H. M. the Elections of last year, and that,

SOLE AGENTS.

Hongkone, Apr.1 16. 17.

WM.

KING to exercise his prerogatives, therefore, be

THE COLONY'S HEALTH.

Last week there were 13 cases of plague TOTA not justified notified, ten being fatal. This brought if necessary, to ensure the passage of int once flying to what the year's total up to 242, out of which al the Partininent Bill, was certainly should be regarded as the last resort but 22 have ended in death. of more than passing interest. of Ministers of the Crown-reliance

There were four occurrences of enteric Although, as was only to be expected, upon the exercise of the KING's fover (two imported), one ending fatally, the Opposition could not carry its prerogative. Reviewing the situation, The only other case of communicable vote, the occasion was made note- it is apparent that the Parliament worthy by a most important speech Bill must go through. Then will it from the PREMER in explanation of be for the Unionists to enter upon

PITTEL the circumstances which led Ministers that bigger fight outside to which Mr

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SOCIAL AND PERSONAL.

Leave of absener, in extension, has been BALFan recently referred, a fight granted to Capt. P. L. Spicer, R.G.A which must have for its aim the over- from 28th August to 26th September, 1911, t'ow of the present Government and inclusive. eventually the repeal or substantial modification, of the Bill which has given rise to such bitter" controversy in the recent past.

NEWS OF THE DAY.

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Captain Garden C. W. Gordon-Hali of the King's Own (Yorkabire Light Infantry is seconded for service under, the Canadian Government.

granted to Capt. A. D. Waring, R. AM.C., from 30th August to 29th October, 1911, inclusive.

to advise the Crown as they did and in defence of such action. The utterance, of which Rxrrea has supplied a verbatim report, was it must be conceded, thoroughly worthy of the occasion. It was well-reasoned, fruck and untinged with ambiguity, More than this, it placed the House in possession of the full history of the advice tendered to the Crown, reveal- ing with the utmost candour all that had passed between the KING and his chief Minister of State. This indeed, was practically the only real value of the debate. It certainly use lines, will be opened in Bangkok.

Very shortly a new hotel, run, oa first cleared the air and falsified many

The Bulls boat the Wanderers at erroneous conjectures. After reading Soccer in the final tie for the Singapore Mr ASQUITH's speech, we certainly Cap. cannot believe, as was suggested by

On our front page to-day will be found the Opposition, that he wilfully and the Grst lot of July Habber Returns to $2.50, $3.50. knowingly abused

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FILLIS' OIROUS. Constitutional liberties in serking assurances from The eminent German zoologist and This world-famed Circus will arrive the Crown, neither can we bring

scientist, Herr Albert Grubauer, who from Macao to morrow (Thursday) and the arrived in Bornes at the end of April, has grand opening will take place in the ourselves to think that the advicecomplished the ascent of Mount Kin Victoria Skating Rink on Friday, August

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THE DIISION.

LATER The vote of censura was rejected by 305 votes to 246.

OVATION FOR PEMIER, The Bonse of Commons was thronged by holiday crowds throughout the day. Mr Asquith on leaving received a great oration and took refuge, in a cab and

drove to Downing Street.

THE FUTURE.

Hie

prerogative than ever existed in 1839, throughout He congratulated Mr ABOLISHING "SQUEEZE." because not only has our Bill bean twice Redmond an bringing the great Liberal before the country but the Lords'

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(Wah Te Yat Po'a Service.)

PEKING, August 7: The Board of Revenue recommende

beither the Government, the Commons," agents since Mr. Asquith's blackmailing that all illegal monies received by the the Lords, nor the Crown had been free letter to the King on November 15th.

local officials of the various Provinces This statement aroused the Minister mast in future be turned into revenue indists into an angry outburst, but the channels. Those receiving such money Spearer refused to rule out the and failing to an act will be dealt with

according to the penalties for bribery,

The Board hith a'so resolved to call all": tho Revenue Superintendents to Péking in the 8th moon for the purpose of In the Blouse of Commons Mr Winston discussing the question of bringing all Churchill said the King was fally the country's revenus under central acquainted in November with the true management.

"ME CHURCHILL SPEAKS.

Major W. II. Wooldridge, 196th Bain.alternative scheme has also been before party to its knees, and declared that to England, on privato affairs, from 10th Now I ask what under these conditions chistan Infantry, has been granted furlough the country and as decisively reject

anuary, 1912, to 9th January, 1913 (or sexording to the law and practice of the dite of departure for one year)."

British conauitation, if the Lords will not give way, what outlet, what way of escape is there open to us? Will any that question to them now early in the gentleman opposite tell me- pat expression. debate will some of them rise in the course of the evening and, given my assumption that the Parliament Bill has been deliberately approved by the electors, that the alternative schema of the referendum has been deliberately repudiated, and the Lorde have insisted un putting the referendunt in place o tion. I challenge any gentleman opposite the Parliament Bill,-given thus assump to rise up and tell me what is the con-

was dictated by Mr REDMOND of abalu, and arrived at Tuaran on the 12th 11th." The Rink will be specially fitted stitutional solution of the situation. As tendered with a desire to wantonly inst. place a new Sovereign in a cruel

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The show is on a very ́lance nealu, num- determined by anything which con- The bona fider of Mr AsQUITI in this Bad Mare, in an exhibition with his saro

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wife and several thousand persons hrilling should attend to grand opening deliberate decision of the nation flushed with recent successes at the witnessed the disaster. It will be remem on Friday evening. polls," he did not act with undue Hengk og, but the arrangements fel bered that Mr Mixes was to have down in haste is another matter.

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Well, will that be disputed? You may deplore it. You may think the nation was mialed, befooled, or defrauded if you like. You may be convinced that Thero cannot be the least doubt

argument and experience will in course call upon the Crown to

of time carse the country to change its Fonnng aortaspondent of the mind. That I can conceive, But do yon exercise its prerogative is a perfectly

Singapore free press wired on July 31st as dispute the fact? I stata in a sentence lawful Consitutional net. Mr AsquITE"

why the fact is indisputable. Everybody made this quite clear by quoting Council, Ron, Mr. E. Pollack with nak

At Thurday's mosting of the Legislative Clark, An Australian horse trainor, naar alternativs Government possible. By A brutal sammult was committed on Frank knows at this moment there is an

precedents and authorities, no-where In view of the statement concerning the midnight on Saturday in Farnlternative: Covernment, I mean” pi

He was struck, while his backy more than in re-stating: Professor which was laid upon the table at the lant dislocating the jaw and breaking the bode,

progress of the work on the typhoon zufuge, a terrife blow ou the underside of the jaw, Government to which the the House of BOLE AGENTS

Commour would give its confidence.:1. Diger's nezepte dictum that the macting of Carnell, will the Government The blow also knocked out several tooth- shall be very much surprised if anybody point where the Loriz must yield orly expendifiue on this work during the

Ilo was afterwards; kicked while ors Lie denies what I going to say, that, no the Crows must intervene is properly maining 12 months of the contmet time ground and he condition is serious responsible Minister who is called to the

and the general progress of the work shall'

Hisalleged agilant le a book maker who counsels of hie Sovereign would venture determined by anything which you be lush na to andguard the completion of me up to Penang from Singapore to attend at this moment to put the country to the

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