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THE CRIMINAL SESSIONS.
A Murder Chargo. Before His Lordship the Chief Justice (Bir F. Piggott) the Criminal Sessions; opened to-day. The following constituted the jury:-Mesere Parid A. Purvis, Beary Bestes, Hedley. Richardson, Johannes P. Ullerup, Thomas T. Hall (foreman), Henry Gittins, and Frederick Elli
that
MAGISTRATES' ORDIN- ance amendMENT.
THE PUNISHMENT BY STOCKS.
The Spitting Nuisance,
We had gone to press on Thulas Chiu Yucu Fok was arraigned on a chargo evening before the consideration of the
The Hou Attorney General moved that
of murdering Choy Yueng at Chaong sha-Magistratee Ordinance Amendment, ame wan on Nov. 26th.
on at the Legislative Council, The Attorney General (the Hon. W Rona Davies K.0.) prosecuted on behalf of the Crown; while Mr R. E. Belilica (instructed by Mr D'Almada e Castro, from Measts Goldring, Barlow, and Morrell) defonded.
wa have succeeded, or how far we have failed and what most we should adopt to achieve success. For this reseon, Sir, I more that this clause be struck out alte gether for the time. It can be made the subject of distinct legislation afterwards.
Hon. Mr. Wei Yak seconded. Hon. Mr Pullock-Sir, I entirely support what has been said by the hon senior unofficial member and I agree with the majority of the unofficial members of this Council that the tice is not ripe for even granting power to the Covornor in Council o make any requlations with regard to spitting. As your Excellency said the other day this matter has been discussed in the anitary Board for some time past, hut up to the present moment so far as I mawara, no educational steps have been
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Ha Excellency I have already said that before any regulations are issued stepa will be taken,
Hon. Dr Ho Kal-Thon do away with the measure and the Chinese will see that the Government want their co-operation without holding up the whip. I only sak your Excelloney to give us a chance of patting their co-operation without legisla tire compulsion.
His Excellency-The principle has been already decided and I am not prepared to go back on that principle. There is no amendment before tho committee.
Hon Dr Ho Kai -There is an Amend. ment
The Colonial Treasurer- This is n bill ta mako various amendments in the law and this happens to bo one of them. There is
no principle involved in the Bill
His Excullenoy--I will put the amend ment by the senior unofficial member that this clause be deleted.
taken. Thero has not so far as I am aware, bean any attempt either public or private to provide any receptacles for people to spit in. Therefore, Sir, think I am quito correct in saying that The amendment was put, the voting educational measures have not begun being as follows: Ayes-Hon. Mr Blade, at all and I think, Sir, that it is vory Hon. Mr Gresson, Hon. Mr Pollock, Hon. necessary before power is takon to setually Mr Wei Yuk, and Hon. Dr Ho Kai. Noer bring logislation in force, that first of all-Hon. Mr Hewest, Captain Superintendent ducational assures should be tried. 1 of Police, the Registrar Genors, the lapreants any legislation or any power to Director of Public Works, the Colonial Legislate in this matter being conferred on Transurer, the Attorney General, the bia Council at the present moment until it Colonial Secretary and the General Officer an be seen, as the hos sanior unofficial Commanding.
taber has stated, what can be done in the way of education. As I put it now receptacles should be provided for Chinese To spit in. That seems to me the obvious eliminary measure before stating that spitting shall be an offence or manking There any regulation regarding it.
ore, Sir, I hope your Excellency will yield to the wish expressed by the, analficial norbers of this Council except the Lion hember who represents the Chamber of Dommerna and that you will allow this
altogether.
the Council go into committee on the biliciuase to be deleted. entitled an erdinance to amend the Magistrates Ordinance 1890 and to effect certain other amendments in the Criminal
LAW.
Hon. Mr Slade-Sir, I. quite agree with what has been said on this point and I hink a great deal can be done in this mattor privately, and without Government
His Excellency-Theroes have it by sight robes to five.
Hon. Dr Ha Kai proposed a new section to take the place of the section under debate. It proposed to give power to the Governor-in-Council to make regulations with regard to places where spitting would be prohibited.
Hon. Mr Hawett asked if it was expected that a man should provide epittoons for usa in his own office.
The Colonial Secretary replied that there was no precedent for such a provision.
Hon. Mr Greason remarked that the carrying out of this law was going to cause more trouble than all the spitting of which we coraplained.
Hon. Dr Ho Rai said he found nothing on the statute book of Euglaud with regard to spitting.
Tho Attorney-General, opening the case, said thu fanfs were simpic. The deceased man lived at Cheong-sla-wan, in the New Territory, and he and prisoner lived to Sir, to this order it will be in the recsilec here. He objected to the state of his stuirs In doing so, he said-With reference,gulations at all. Au instance was given me only a few days ago by a gentleman gether in an un-numbered house. The
Įtion of the committer that at the last moet and put the matter before his Chinese. murder appeared to have arisen out of A quarrel between them or Nor. 5th. Then two of the clauses stood adjourned for. He had notices put up and within consideration, the first which is the two or three days the nuo WAS VERY principal-witness in the case was a stone in relating to stoels. It was pointed carly, if not entirely, dens away with. If he was in the habit of visiting the house. fearned member opposite having regard to
snier, and he would tell the jury that out that time, Sw, by the hon. anda person can do that I think it can be led by adding a clause to the effect that the Ou Nov. 25th, the night before the affair
touk place, this witness went to the house, the phogy proposed to endopted in And while theres dispute anne between dinances declared by virtue of this Ordin-
the new clause, that there were certain or the prisoner and deceased as to a sum of $1 The deceased man alloped that the accusctnca to be misdemeanours. I have lind had stolen this money from him, Sub. opportunity, with
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done in all offices and public buildings. If it is found that it is of no value, then the the matter in hand. time will come for the Government to take
The Colonial Secretary-England is so woll educated that it is out necessary.
Han. Mr Pollock suggested that the last clause of the amendment should be awed- provisions should be submitted to the Louislative Council for approval, and that they should be printed an English and. Chinese in the Gazete
The Colonial Treasurer pointed out that
the Executive Council zeferred back again : to the Legislative Council
Hon. Mr Pollock asked if it was pro-! posed to make the Executive Council a star chamber so that its ections suuld not be the subject of criticism in the Legisla tive Council.
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ticula ordinances mentioned are not to be
Hon Colonial Secretary.-Sir, I think Such of educational measures. aara barn taken during overal months ast and it strikes me, Sir, that the ques ion having boon raieed it is mach better to deal with it as proposed and take power
included within the scope of the ishim you have got to had the gua first. unloaded gun. If you want to threaten out imposed by stocks. That being so, That is all this Bill proposes to do.
I propose to omit clause 3, axil to insert a new dance altogether, and I have
men outside. The following ring the same witaes paid another visit to the house and found deceased sitting on a beŭ, Shortly afterwards prisoner on in tud the quarrel was resumed on the same fectly and clearly understood that the par- There is an uas in threatening a man with
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ay if you don't give up a certain habit you it appears to be the opinion on the part of vill make it necessary for us to legislato.
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subject as the night before. After the dispate had been going con fer some time prisoner produced a knife, the decorsod wan immediately ran out of the house, and prisoner ran after hit with the knife The witness followed and saw the prisoner catch the deceased man after a run of sour 20 yardacatch hold of him by his queue, and stat him. Thereupon the decased appeared to have held on to the prisoner is quece and called out Sare life. The witness then ran up, sezed the prisoner: Austched the knife freni him, and called for assistance. Shortly afterwards another raan came up with a tope, and he and the #ituess bound the prisoner up. The story of the Magistrates Act with the smend-ucational measures would be effective.
to the quarrel and the murder would be Forne out by a married woman living most we have inserted here. And I also in my opinion the pinces where the habit in a house near. The Attorney-General that the hon. gentleman took exceptica to the colony. In the summer time many of
propose this provis (tunds). I sy say is most apparent we the publio wharvez afany precedent Smid probably the only question the jury ertain other ordinances, but as i have
The Grst part of Hoo. De "Ho Kat's ber and is entitled to exchange would have to decide was
us un bathing frem Queen's Siatuo Pier and amendment, relating to the prohibition of whether there was murder of manslaughter. As already pointed out to him, they are not that place is absolutely a disgrace. I 36 the evidence rend in the depositions dinances which come within the ma-
covered with chewed and spat out sugar spitting in certain places, was accepted same for any other novel on there wild probably as no don't that interfal jurisdiction at sil. Porsonally and other deposits of escus inure ob by the Government. The second part,
Salted the wounds, and that is don't think these four ordiu-
in offices and other public places for As the prisoner died. It wenkle are really of such a character that jestionable rature. I trust that the edinen with negard to the provision of spittoons payment of 20 cents cash, Hong-
ful measures of the Registrar General the convenience of visitors, was voted #agistrate could impose stocks. In and the Captain Suurintendent of Polico be for the jury to my whether thers was what was known as "malice aforethought," has the law stands nt present it is
Hon. Dr Ho Eni supported it all the other betare, the production of the knife, the Ordinances are: The Medical Registration Sy objection to the clause as it membera voting against it. The third part
hether the fact of the quarrel the night just an well to make it clear. The four may result in cleansing that wharf. I cannot apon. Only the Hon. Mr. Wei Yuk and kong currency, for every change.
standa Andreation goes on it. will not following of deceived by sle prisoner with and fe is the statutory Dixit be enforced. If education does not go on with regard to the Interpretation Ordinanco the knife for some dissance drown the road, tions Ordinance 1883, the Sale of Food and then it will be admitted that in certain
Dengs Ordinance of 1890 and the Stamp calities some action will be necessary.
The Bon. Mr Polluck's amendment, and then inflicting the stab apon him was
making it necessary that the relation Hon. De Ho Kui What is the difference should receive the approval of the Legis "matice."
between legislating after six mouths and lative Council, was next considered. making the power now and not exercising it for six months-?.
After hoaring evidence the case was ad- journed until to-morrow morning.
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His Excellency) am afraid the Gorem- section is certainly an improvement on the
ment cannot accept that amenduent. If Sir Richard Escombo, by Max Pemberton. The Colonial Secretary-The Ordinance power is given to the Governor-in-Coquel Bose-White Youth, by Dolf Wyllarde. Clause as amended then becnine part of is here and we have a convenient plue to to make these regulations it will be creat, The Life Class, by Keighley Snowden.
put it in. As I said we are much moreing a wrong impression to refer it
it again to
Forging the Blades, by Bertram Mitlord. This Excellency-The only other otsuse likely to succeed than if people don't know. the Legislative Couneft. which has been hell over in this Bill is the education does not improve matters, and the voting resulted: "Noes," Hom Lewis Rand, by Mary Johnston
Hon Dr Ho Kai-But they do know. Hon. Mr Pollock asked for a division, The Green Parrot, by Beraad Capon to be seriously faced, but it is fortunate for first sulection of cause 7. I agreed to
législative measures eau be pussed. I do residents in Hongkong that there are hold that urer for discussion at this meet
ing at the instance of the senior unufticial not know that it in peculiar to the Chinese M-Slade. Hon. Mr Hewett, Captain Super-The Down Express, by G. W. Appleton.
intendent of Police, Registrar General, plenty of establishments in the Coleny member, and I have taken thu opportunity out, like other people, they like to be Director of Pablic Works, Coloniki Tras The War in the Air, by H. G. Wella. where nasistance in its solution can be ob given last week of dismutasing the subject led rather than to be driven, If you pay surer, Attorney-General, Colonial Score Vivieneer Venture, by Viola Graeme, tained. One of these in the well-known again with the Executive Council. I find the cause now you palpably apply the tary and General Dicer Commanding. that the majority of that council are of whip. Why not have the clause left ut "Ayes" Hon. Dr Hu Kai, Hon Mr Wei fancy goods and stationery deyot owned opinion that the letisintion proposed is and at the end of six months after other Yuk, Hon. Mr Grusson and Hon. Mr by Mesars Brower and Co. Here there is reasonable and proper, 20 view especially of † measures have been tried, then legislate Pollock..
when they are proved unsuccessful. II Huu. Mr Pollock-What about the other a splendid all-round stock of suitable arti- the pledge which I gave to the Council in oles for presents, and the prices also are committee that no regulation would be they are successful we will not have to amendment sa to the printing in English
passed for s period of six months, during burden our Statutes with any clauso em and Chinese? sufficiently varied to suit all pockets.
His Excellency see no objection to To refer briefly to the literature depart. which time we should take steps to educate powering legislation on the subject.
His Excellency-We are not obliged to that.. Chinese opinion both by posting notice and ment at first, it must be said that almost also by including the subject in the lectures introduce any legislation until the end of every kind of volume is included in delivered on sanitation and hygiene by six months You wish us to pledge our
Chinese lecturers. Wo have passed the selves to introduce legislation say at the the principal Ordinatice std The Stock 31, Queen's Road Central, Masara Brewer's stock. Bat & feature is seceral roading of the bill already, and end of six woathe. We say legislation Panishment Limitation Ordinace was being made of conveniently-sized leather there is amendment at present before a pledge that for six months it shall
time be introduced, but I have paved. bound editions of the classics and other the committee. I would ressing the com-givan a worka. These are bound in all colours,mittee that the amended clause as it stands
Hoo. Mr Grasson Is not that In the their covers are richly embellished with does not make spitting a nuisance. It does
not enact any prohibition whatever against nature of a threat, Sir? The very thing really artistic designs, and there is a choice it at the present time nor doce it empower we want to avoid. The Chinees do not selection from which to choose. Then the Governor-in-Council to make it an understand these things very clearly and there is a very large stock of Calonial offence. All that it does is to empower will say the Government are doing their editions containing the latest productions arise in the future, to compel persons to Thoy are going to introduce a bill to put the Governor-in-Council if necessity should best to molest us in every possible way. in fiction; while the usual volumes for the spit circumspectly, that is to say in drains us into prison for spilting. We don't juveniles, such as "Chatterbox," "Little and spittoons so that the habit should not wish the Chinese in Blongkong to think. Folks" and so on, will make sdmirable be a danger to the pablo health; During the that we are going to threaten them."
discussion on the Public Health and Build- Hou. Mr Pollux-I anderstood your. presents for the youngsters.et. Al
Lings Ordinance and on various other ooca Excellency to say just now that members Another speciality is being made of arious think. I have given scidence to the of the Executive Gosnoll were not un- A well-known provincial member of splended variety of brass-work photo Council that I mist heartily destro the animous on this point. I would point out that very honourable trace of accond-hand part of the China Sea, and gradients are frames of all sizes, as well as a unique lot co-operation of the Chinese in all measures to your Excellency that a very large mu book-selling said recently The humb rather steep along the coasts of 8. China.
N. and N.Ewinda, strong to a gale, are of chaste ink stands made of silvered of sanitary reform in the colery. It bas jority of the unofficials, are against o after rare books is as keen as over, bút I pewter ware. Of course, there is in made on this subject, and I think therefore moment,
been the burden of every address I havo introduction of this measure at the present chiefly in the young men who would expected to prevail in the Formosa Channel
mark down a book in my street stall and and the N. part of the China Seaso svidence the usual fine collection of Xmas this committer way trust me and my The Colonial Secretary-Sir, the parties would save up to buy it. There BleofyHongkong rainfall for the 24 hours and and New Year cards, many of which are treat the Executive Council not to act in that the hon. member represents, and at of book buying, but there is no longer anyag at 10a.m. to-day, 0:12 inches
Forsssss for the 24 hours ending at noon indeed lovely specimens of real actistic any way prejudicial to that idea. The oross purposes. One half want the clause book-hunting, Hearth and Homes
FORECAST DISERIOR, discussions which take plɛos in this Council struck out altogether, while the Chimese work, especially those bearing engravings and their echoes outside and I would members says give us six months grace,
1.-Hongkong and Neighbourhood N of walknown pictures; while of calendars, therefore deprecato observations which and, if the habit is not stopped, then diaries, atc., there is almost an endless tend in opposite directions. The principle legielate
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I have supported is that, we should seek Het. Dr He Koi-I did not say that. I wore when you can get Stearoa Wing of Leather goods of all kinds are on view, the cooperation of the Chinees in all our said if it is not stopped then it will be timed Liver Oll, which is delicides and dors
measures of sanitary reform and there is for you to pass regulations. anitable alike for the lady as well as mens nothing in my mind in the amendment bors of the sterner sor, and among the before the Council which is apposed to array of writing cases, purses, clmtelaine that principle.
Hon. Dr Ho Es-Sir, I think since your bags, card cases, tolace pouches, cigar Ercelloney has gone so far as to promiee and cigaretto cases, holders, etc., there that for the nest ax months at least no should be no difficulty in selecting a gift steps will be taken to make spitting a which would sure to be thoroughly apentinal offenos, that it would perhaps be procated by the recipient.
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better still if your Excellency would allow curtain measures to be carried out and st the end of that time see what effect they had Then we would be in a position to know it non-smosens attended our efforts to
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and swolle jojuts, sharp shooting legislate. It bai, this advantage : That of Pains, forturing muscles, do res ne l wo would may to the public that we would kleep. That means sheumatism, iltis
like to have spitting on foorn in curtam stubbara dissing to fght, but Chamberlain's Pain Esim has conçucted it thousands of Blacc stopped, and if it is not stopped in
berbio fame we shall have to peal pompul
These will do so whenever the opposéry masquros. I think suitable moraduate andy is offered. Try It Ons sppies might be devised and carried out. Th How reliares the pain. For sale by All would be in a position to know how
The Attorney Genend-WII the Council allow this Bill to be read a third time. The contentions points are all settled:
Hou. Dr. Ho Kai—I object- Hop. Mr Howett There is nothing to be gained by postponing the third reading, You cannot have any further discussion.
Hon. Dr Ho Kai-The Chinesa may. position against the Bill.
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