No. 9888.--AUGUEZ do, 1998.1
LUBINIATICO.
(Signed) T. H. WETTERRAD.
THE ANG TO RUN. T. A WHITEHEAD,
Government Bongs, Private
Hengkong, July 9th. Dear Sir, I am directed by His Ex- cellongy the Governor in reply to your letter of this date to any that His Excel. lency regrets that he annot accept your suggestion as to the appointment of a lay Member to the Retrenchment Committee: the Chief Justice has already informed His -Exonilongy that be must decline to accept a position by which he would be bereft ul all influence, and the only alternative seams to be the appointment of 4 members an suggested in my note of the 28th.
4. In regard to your application for por mission to publish the cutrespondence ou the subject of the constitution of the Com- zilion, H.E. hopes that yria will by con- eanting to serve obviate any necessity for auch peblication, but should son finally' docline to serve, he will to obliged by your If you do noi feel that you can serve on renewing your application, as in that event such a committon, the Governor is afraid he would wish to add certain observations that he can take no further action in the (which otherwise he would not consider matter, having siready done everything he occaseary) to form part of the matter to be could to get together a Committee on the published.I remain, sir, pour obedieet liacs suggested by the Secretary of Stato.ervant, and failed-I romain, yours vory truly.
(Sd.) J. T. STERLING, A. D.O. To the Honourable T. H. Whitehead,
M.LC.
BOK, T. H. WHITEHEAD TO CEF & D.C.
KON. .
(84) J. T. STEALING, A.D.Q
WHITEHEAD TO THE 4.1.C.
Hangkong, Aug- 8, 1993), Government Housa. Sir, I have received your letter of the 6th instant and have andenvoured to give it das consideration.
Captain J. T. Sterling, AD
servant,
THE CHINA MAIL
THE COLONIAL SECRETARY TO HON. T. . WUTELEAP.
a
ready intimated a desire to declian a¤ sp- lust par bis way to the appointment of which did not include you as a member ho was met by a double diffienky. Mr cledes the appointment of an independent
There are num-
(Signed) T. H. WHITEHEAD.
IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,
the Houm of
Hongkong, 2nd August, 1893. Captain J. T. Sterling, A. D. C., Claveru
ment House,
I am very sorry that you should have had Dear Sir, I have carefully considered your note of the 20th ultime in which you the trouble of again writing. I thought 1 inform me, by direction of His Excellency, had made it quite clear in my letter of the that he cannot accept my suggestion to ap: 2nd inst, that I could not consent to serve point a lay member on the Retrenchment on the Commission as at present constitut- little/eurprise. He also feels that, in the Was Just pogrisle to assent to them, as they which I had not, at least, been asked to sit, tiou.-1 have the honour to be, sir, youred for information as to the charges made
ed. I said, or intoaded ta say in the second Committee, that the Chief Justice Las al-
of that note, that if His Exelleney pointment where he would be bereft of could not all influence, and that the only alternatives such a Commission au was nosnimously asked for by the Unofficial Members I felt keam to be a Commision of 4 members, or the abandonment of the Enquiry all prevented from taking part in the proceed. ings of a Committee no composed that while gother.
May I be permitted in the first place to harring the way to a moore festive enquiry point out that is Excellency appears to in the future, it scald not hepe to accom hare lost sight of my respectful suggestion plish much to the present. It is with very that he might kindly wire to the Secretary great regret that I find myself compelled to of State informing His Lordship of the po-adhere to the decision bodied in these few xition, and requesting suthority to appoint worse, and I eat only logise to Rise it may be useful here very briatly the Committee finally consisted of the enquiry by the Committee (the only one 1!
At the same
than
THE YELLOW RIVER FLOODS OF 1887.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF HELF FROM HONGYONG.
sufferera.
Kiang province,
From the
With from His Excellency also, I do not think Governor has been unable to share your the emalitution of the Committee. mittea of Enquiry, twice before His Excel occurred, ankoowledged the service the Gu- two of the men executed, 340 probably
of the Honourable Mr Cheter,
the possiblity of great economies being again portait me to point out that, to for this reason that be mixed up in the Me Lagan emphatically, donied that ho of office work. Such a member would be time it would aufliantly mont my personal | Lordship's despatch. I am speaking now denide anything, and that its fauctions were to the dead for retroachment, and as to word, independent of Government, and ed to assit him or Me Oussop, and th was
Government and the publie the necessity dono, that I have, in any shape or form, of great service, and could render vast objections. In auch a Comunittes no ro solcly for myself. If the other unofficial, strictly Hmited to enquiring and recommend
Would His Excellency not commandation could be carried in the macabers of Council do mat ogree with me ing. It obviously follows that any recom-effected in nearly all branches of the public so your own phrase, you are wholly trouble. He was greatly distressed at
and are content to accept this as the enquiry mendations which the Committee, or any of its service. I have strongly urged upon the without warrant in sisting, as you have haring created disorder in the House. think it well to ask by wire for authority teeth of unofficial opposition, and gvery re-
number of the members making the several that it might be ascertained and made the public that I had suggestions to make cerely regretted that he had been concern
clear in what departments and to what which were feasible and would enable ed in the affair. from the Secretary of State to put some commandation which a majority could agrso they asked for, they are free to act on it, members may meko, wil by ac means neces- ley member on the Commission, though I to would be free from the possible reproach and my place is easily filled by uno or other sarily deriva waight in proportion to the fora ecmprehensive angairy into the facts, practically informed the Government and had intended to assault anyone, and six-
My refusal to not need not atop the ou eacommendations, but solely from the
In my expressed opinion as to I am apparently of opinion that only were antisfactory to him and he hoped this think it is unnecessary to do so.-1 of baing a mere party conclusion. It right of them."
of course happen that on some points there romain, your very troly,
would be an equal division, but the only quity, if His Excellency thinks it right that amount of reason and good sense which the extent economies and retrenchments were important reductions to be made, er that Me Gladstone said that this explanationa result would be that no recommendation it should proceed without further reference recommendations my Reverally contain, possible.
to the Secretary of State, but i am sure His You practically informed the Government possibility of serious retrenchments I am through the instrumentality of a Retrench waiter would be allowed to drop. Ms could in that casa be formulated.
As Mr Whitehead is good enough to im- Excellency will admit that I er at least and the public on more than as ocasion happily confirmed by His Excellores the ment Committee car I prepound these Balfour, the leader of the Opposition, pute to me perfect impartiality, I fail to see consistent, and that entertaining the opinions that you have suggestions to make which Governor, as the result of the enquiries he suggestions. I have said and done nothing and Mr Justin MoCarthy, the leader of
was due to the Irish members. he should object to a Committes com- I du, I cannot be expected to accept the no- are feasible and which would stable very has been able to make. I am more then to justify these allegations. I and many the anti-Parnellite section of the Irish why
London, Aug. 1.-In the House
of.Com- posed (excluding the Chairman) of two mination, howover anxious I am to support important reductions to be made in the ex-julised in my opinion that an enquiry by otoza hava alleged that retrenchments and Parliamentary Party, also sxpressed the-
thosp suggestions only through the instrument, and that privalo enquirien conducted pointed out many of the ways, sPIAS NOW members on his side (for it is impossible to him in his desire for retrenchment.I have renditors of the Colony, and you are appa- an independent Committes iv an essential ononemies in many ways can be suggested. solros as satisfied. Mr McCarthy, however,
mentality of a Betrenchment Committee. wholly within the bosom of the Govern- to us. I have cover arrogated to myself escape the conclusion that there are sides) the honour to be, sir, your most chedioat renty of opinion that you son propound preliminary to any scheme of retrench-His Excelloney has said the gate, and prokontod against the idea that the row
(Signed) T. H. WHITEHEAD.
Whatever the grounds of that epinia may ment itself ara inadequate, by the decision the monopoly of opinion or anggestion you mons to-day Mir Howard Vinosat, Cop- and one on the other.'
bo, it is clear that for the propounding of of the Secretary of State directing a com sharge me with olsiming. I have never servative member for the Central Divi- your suggestions it capoot be essential that prebsasive enquiry, in ipite of the strong said or thought thas only through the sion of Shefield, asked if the Commis you should have a majority on the Commit-protests of His Excelleney the Governor medium of a Committee could my or others' sioners of Works and Pablic Bailding Colonial Secretary's Office,
to. Eret if you were in a minority of ons, that no such public enquiry was necessary suggestions for retrenchment be put for hat considered the bearing of the recent fortunately the Secretary of State thinks beaches, It was impossiblo, Mr Vincent Hengkong, 12th Angust, 1893. Sir,I am directed to knowledge the the Governor fails to see why that should or desirable, and that he was in possession ward, but I have said and think, and scores in the House on the overcronded. ៨. -His Excellerey might well bave been with me, that a publio comprabensivo said, for members to find accommoda. any way Committee which from its composition the facts about the public corvies, ofsired to be informed as to whether plans receipt of your letter of 6th instant ade provant you from making the wast useful of all needful information,
The Right Hon. G. Shaw-Leferre, the dressed to the Governor's A. D. C., (and recommendations that it might be in your
as well as for present First Commissioner of Works and Pablis received on 8th instant), in which you state power to make. The circumstanco of your surprised if i had consented to act on a enquiry is the proper means of ascertaining tions among their own party, and he de- Buildings, said, in reply, that be refused your inability to serve on the Retrenchment being in a minority could not consisting of the Honorable C. P. Clator, commandation which you might make, nor enquiry in any directicu abent which there recording them, ant of laying the founda
13-The semmanity is deeply grateful to associate the disorders with the oc- Committee appointed by His Excellency and detract from the reasonableness of any re- must atterly fail to push any effective galling a comprobeasive view of them, of were being prepared to remedy the eril yourself, and Mr May, with His Hotor the consequently from the consideratiss to be zasy be any serious differences of opinion tion for future given to such ranesnableness; or would there between the representatives on it of the improvements.
At the same time, if the, Chief Justice as Chairman.
2. Looking to the part which you have in any way he increnand if you were in a public and of the Government. If I had taken in obtaining the appointment of majority. Thin is, however, by the way: done so I should tava exposed myself to to Bie Bacailoney for having so promptly, sommodations. The Honss usually was Retrenchment Committee, and to the fact the meterial point is not how you arrived at charge of inconsistenor and folly, is having after his arrival, taken up the question of not crowded.
accepted something which, equally divided predocessors, for Lie effective enquiries, appoint a committee for enlarging the spia that your public seasrances of the facility your conclusion, but that you did arrive at agitated for an independent enquiry and retrenchment ignored by his immediate members so desired, the Government would
7.-Onos more, in his anxiety to remove in its bombers, lacked the power to paskicr his economies already ofooted, and for of the House.
of London, Aug. 2.-The question of Tary with which large economies might be effooted it.
give authority to its report and they will still profer, with the Sevrotary
State, an indeperdont und public enquiry, kish outrages upon Armenian Christians ally in the cut of the Government establish even the semblance of a justifiution for its investigations, and the independence those promised, but I think he will mi
Tecommendations in the expanditure of the Colony, and especi
the Governor was diapreed to give effent to
7.Of course, there might bare been an a wore effective and more far-reaching was again brought up meats, have raised expectations of results of your reluctance to serve on the Committee, that could extreme importance from your operation
your wishes. Needless to say, he did not
that the Turkish officials had tortured the persons who were some time ago a on the Committee, His Excellency has re-
did not directly contravens the terms of the but my refusal to take part in the proceed-most obellent servant,
rested for complicity in the seditions mot selved your fani refusal to serve with not consider them rancuzable, but he thought it anomaly in appointing Committee un than any merely departmental investiga- Catamous to-day. Surorel mobors are ing at Cosarea and Meraovan in the ef- circumstances which I have referred to,
terte to get the accused to implicate them- a Retrenchment Committee in Hongkong Secretary of Stato's instruction. But here ings of this Committee by no means pro-
selvas and others. In response to these Sir Edward Groy, Parliamentary Sear tary of the Foreign Office, said that what would be so betaiiestly incomplete and Belilios, who was invited to jom the Com-Committee of Eaquiry. anemalone that your withdrawal precludes mitte, declined, and the Chief Justice ob-bers of men in Hongkong, perfectly inde- manner desired by Fanam of the accessity of retrenchment and of stitated in the
The fallowing document, rexived at the little information the Foreign Office bad his making any further attempt at prenant jeated to presiding over a Comittee con-pendent of the Government, nouvinced as I to constitute a committee.
was possible to meet your views although be the Secretary of State has ordered, and more competent than I am to old by their
six parsons had been arrested, and of this wae quite unable to admit their reasonable-
number 17 bad been condemned to deaths tires be maet disclaim all responsibility for In order however, to do the atmost that the need for that comprehensive enquiry
your letter of 2nd instant that
Chiness Legation, Jane 2nd, 1893. the infereson which you have been pleased
My Lord,-In 1687 bes, by the inunda- and many of the others contenced to long to draw in tantamount to the abandonment of the official members on the Committes by the an investigation. I accept His Excellen Legislative Council this afternoon:--
withdrawal of the Harbour Master, so that cy's assurance that the abundormant of the
tion cansed by the barsting of the banks of terms of imprisonment. Subsequently the this decision on his part in necesesrily ass, the Governor redneed the number of experience and knowledge of affairs in such Foreign (iffias, as laid on the table of the on the subject was very painful. Fifty.
altogether."
acother official, and two unofi- alluded to) is not necesarily tantamount the Yellow River, a very large trast of Saltan of Turkey somamated the death to the abandonment of all enquiry. I feel country was devastated and many tess of sentence of all but five of the prisoners. on the Commimin others than members of Exoellaner for the trouble I have given and
have led to the appointment of the the Council, if a third unuficial member is thank bit for bis considerate kindness in to recaptautate the circumstances which Chembers of the Legislative Council.
3-His Exteliennyaubsequently, after confident His Excellency will continue the thousands of the Chinese people were These five man had been execated within Until this is doue I permitting me to reconsider the malfer a
one intimating his inability to adopt a sugges- good work he has commenced, but unfor reduced to the direst distroan, Jir W. Des the past two or three days. not willing to sorve
You have more
gated by the British reprosetitative in think it can scarcely be said that every second time, and for his courtesy in com Committes, and those which have fok-
moved in the Legislative Cousail for the tion made by you to add to the Committee a funatoly this departmental enquiry is pre- Vesus, the late Gavemer of Hongkong, evidence that had been given at the trials,
and a report on it forwarded thing has been done to comply with Bimunicating r Justine Clarke's views on the lowed it. subjest. Lordship's wishes.
and have moved three times for a Cam The Viceroy of the the foods, unciralty Forsign Office, it was clearly shows that In the wrond place may I be allowed to There are two points in His Honor's letter appointment of a Retrenchment Committee, gentlemen who was neither an official aer eisely what suither the public for apparent tied a large fand for the relief of the all of which had been carefully investi
.copaisting eny that I do not understand the meaning with reference to whtort enoot gaits agreeaud dwelt on the great advantaged that a member of the Legislative Council, caused by the Secretary of State have completo
The Brilish reprceonta- of the expression vaad by the Chief Jos-with bins, and in which I am afraid I differ would accrue therefrour to the Colons. The you to be inforced that he could not alter confidence in.
your note.
and Me May, with the Chief Justino Aalency's arrival in Hongkong and once since, vernor had thereby rendered to China, at wore, were innocent of the charges made tice, as described in
ing the memorial and petition of January the areumetenna to the notice of the Expo- tive in Constantinople had used his in- a Commission uumposed of Mr May, Mr that the Comraittee as now constitated in view, bring of the upinion that he was Chater, another unofficial member of Chuan-within the spirit, although within the letter already aware of such economies, as could
of the that the trials were unfair, but his 9. Under these gireragstascos His Boul-fest to the Secretary of State, even after Iror, His Majesty had not, owing to the sub-fluence to convince the Ottoman sathor Chief Justica would have all you, the of the Secretary of State's instructions. Thu be effeated without breach of faith or pre- Chairman; and you hare thereupon finally and I have taken an active part in promot the time, but until lately when I brought | against them. cal or some las member, and
the influence unofficial members of Council in their judice to the effeiency of the public survice, destined to serve or the Committee.
Mr Balfour to-day assured the Govern Elis Excellency's philanthropic egoition of dun to his position, to his known impur-petition asked for an enquiry by a body to be and being fully determined to do all in his
ment that the Opposition did not intend to They shed January last addressed to the Secretary of
was making enquiries, and was proparing a happens that up to the prosent no official ro scheme; bat permit me to state that there common sense, and would probably in all; opnestel with the Government, or at least offer. Nevertheless in the Memorial of 12th 1 Searetary of State with the steps which he alive to the necessity for retrenchment | beeg made accuainted of it, and thes it efforts to have the wrong righted were in
ise groand whatever for your assertion action has been accorded. that I did so becaurs I knew of farther
It is now my pleasant duty to repair the embarrass the usgotiations in regard to On the contrary, the political Kantters on which there was a difference of a majority of auch persone.
generally opinion among the members carry the majo for an independent anquiry. His Ex-State you pressed for the appointment of s mies
economies that might be effected which savesion. The Speror, my August Master, Sism. were naknown to the Governor, or because
was profoundly touched with the signal ex- opponents of the Gaverument nity with him, but
f there were a decided cellener in his despatch of the 17th January Committee, presumably because you welc that were practicable in addition to those be
Committer the only means by emplifies ties affunded by the sympathetic admitted that little fault could bo majority against the view taken by him, last, para 17. emphasises this by quoting satisfied that you knew of further coonomies and he was anable to persuade that maju between inverted sommes the words cited
taken place, it is desirable that the ma: which I
Mr Heary Labanokere complimented ter should he reported to the Serttary and opinions baard. I did eu beonne Confucian waxim which asserts the on- Siamese trouble, Chairman, give offbet to the wishes of the the House of Commous by Me Baith, he cause you thought, for some renue which is
State ne soga us possible, and His Kren thought end still think a gubila indepen- mon brotherhood of all manner of man lis- majority, and record the own views if he asked for the appointment of an indepen-
tenry therefor: trusts that you will not fake dent enquiry, conducted by persons in being without the bounds of the four ear; Lord Hosabory, the Foreign Minister, up- thought it necesary. Is it not perhaps dent Commission. Neither in the fause
more than a week to formulate your repre- main unconnected with the Government and has commended me to oonvay to Sir W. on his statesmanlike attitude throughout passibis that the words used by Bis our of Comas, nur in His Lordship's despatch
It should 20 submitted in tripli- service, is the heat instrument for acer-Des Voeux, and through him, to these who, the whole Siamese Tair, and expressed taping it the facts connected with the whether by their co-operation or their sub the hope that Lord Rosebery would follow the same course in regard to Egypt, so as the Chief Justice may have been misunder of the 1st April, dues the Secretary at State indicate any reluctance to the appoint
to remove a natural source of irritation in stood?
10. according you the permission for working of the Government departments, scriptions, au publy seconded him in his benerulent and snonessful exertions, the ex- I am afraid that a Committee composed meal of such a Commission. Nothing could
Sir William Vernon Harcourt isid that. of four,
as indicated in your pots of 28th have been rester than for His Lordabup terins that hare aid in express
respondence, His Rasellency desires that ferested persons as tu possible imprese-pression of die Majesty's heartfelt thanks France
for the timely assistance they rendered to uilimo, would not accomplish the purposes to
His then solely and calamity stricken ho had recognised the moderation in the tose of the Opposition leaders during the for which it was asked by the onoficial while prepared to grant an enquiry i
which you have applied, to publish the cor- the opinions of all competent and disin 4. Keving received this instruction the this letter may be taken as a portion of the ments and economies and of placing on
vernors and Colonial Serretaries the fucts people. Yembora of Caugeil and by the public, and could rot be granted in the form seked for,
I have the bonour to request that Your debate. He thought that the subject had Governor preseeded to carry it into effect; matter to be published, and that it may he record for the information of future Go- want to the Press for publication at the mate granted by the Right Honourable the Sec and to have directed in so many words that
The matter was expressly before and he desiree as in this connection to ob-time as the previous letters on the subject so ascerinsurd,
9--Cariously suaugh the Secretury of Lordship will have the goodness to cause been sufficiently discusead, mud that it Tolary of State for the Colonias, viz., there should not be an independent ma-
with the views expressed out these acknowledgwests from my imperist ought now to be drop Mr William Henry serve that if by the references in your
State agrees
London, Angast searching investigation into the organisajority.
obedient servent,
merely by tao. but by the unofficial mem- tion and manning of the Government de-in, and while limiting the number of off-
(Signed) A declared opposition to any enquiry' as
bra and by the public of Hongkong, and partments, and into the Colonial expendicials to be placed upon the Committee be bus letters of 25th July and 2nd instant to his bave the bonour to be, sir, your tos:
searching investigation futo
in condemning my views and theirs you ture generally, with a view to ultimate re- put no limit on the number of unofficials.
have the appearanes, at least, of condemn- the face of the declared Committee of two official members, and three to B trenchment. In
iog the action of that high offeinl. opposition of flis Excellency the Guvestor, anticial would have been as completely organization and munzing of the Govern
10-Again I accept anhesitatingly your and of the Bonourable the Colonial Becre within the words of Lord Biper's despatch meat departments and into the Colonial The Hon. T. 11, Whitehead, ¿c, &c, âs.
sssurance that the Governor on receipt of tary, to such a Commission and investiga- as they certainly would have been, in my expenditure generally, you intend to allege
the despatch of the 21st April last put tion, the Committee should, I still think, hamble opinion, within the spirit of his any oppositiute to the Committee which no warrant whatever iet the allegation.
asida all opposition to the appointment of comsiet mainly of parsons unconnected with nemomaleations in reply to the petition he was instructed to appoint, you have Whee it was decided by the Socretary
Committed of Enquiry, and had no other the Government; and what objection there addressed to him.
Neither can I agree with his Bonour the
then that it should get to work na
IN ORIGINAL JURISDICTION. Can pesibly be to a Committee se com-
183, bearing praad I am not able to conceive, as they Chief Justice that the unofficial element of State that a Committee abould be appoint
mitted, I thick, that his first appointment (Hefore His Hon Mr Pielding Clarke, can only report and recciamond-nothing would have all the advantages the origin of al, His Excellency's one ansialy was that
Chief Justice) It was neither the Committee could fairly be held to en- the Committon should set to work es eper dily the receipt of your latter No.
unfortunate. In this letter yon acknowledge, was very unto
Ta-day, Augusi 29. If His Excellency cannot see his way to title them to, as that Committee is ut pre- as possible. At the first ensuing meeting of date the 12th catat
seal composed. The Committer is the out- the Legislative Donacit he announced his
quess of Ripon's instructions. the appointment of such a Commission as was unanimously asked for by the unoficial ene of a long continued struggle between intention si appointing & Committee cou-direction, my note of the 6th August within the letter nor the spirit of the Mar- the uptigin! mesabers of the legislative sisting of the Chief Justice as Chairman, the A.D.C. conveying my final refusal to
The bearing of evidence in this action maxabers, I am very sorry that I feel pro
You inform rae that, for the respecter with the Government service. It vented from taking part in the proceedings Council and of the Government of the Colous the Harbour Master, the Honourable Messrs serve on the Retrenchinen: Committee of unwieldy in numbor, and it did not consist
Wodehouse and May, and on the return of vornor, of a Committee a composed that while bar on the subjeut, first. if retrenchment, and Chator and Keswick, yourself and Messre four, appointed by His Excellency the G2 of the derived majority of persons un
em fendants, tie said the rule was merchants ero ring the way to a more effectire enquiry in scenadly of enquiry with a view to retreuch
bought karusiue to arrive, and if there said nothing the future, it entaot hope to accomplishment. Until His Excellency arrived in the the Chief Justice from teave, as anon as cer- some stated in the second paragraph of ustained two members of the Government was contard today, J. R. Michael, Coley there was no admission on the part taia indispensable preliminaries had been your letter, and to which I shall presently service who, for many reasons, were west broker, being called on behalf of the de- work in the present.
ocived my refusal with a little surprise, bere of any such enquiry. I foresee that I may be held responsible of any member of the Governmcot that arranged, he lost a time in making those refer more fally, His Excelinary has re- undesirable and mest anpopular as mem-
5. Neither on the occasion of His Ex and that he feels himself precluded by that on the subject at fivet, considering it more were damaged cases the purchasra ware for the failure of the appointment of a Re-retrenchment was either nosessary or pos-appointmeis.
DUT, it is true, faily His Excellency,
Committee. You point!
retained his share of the sound cares, crznebiment. Committee, and as it may be Bible. necessary for me to address the Secretary admits the need for retrenchment, and Las celionay's announcing the constitution of the referal from making any farther attempt than probably that His Excellency of his supplied with sound canes pra yata. If arose, it appeared as if the firm of In reply to my firet remonstrance, one af State on the subject. I desire you to in- there is room for it, and he advocates Committee, which be intended to appoint, to constitute a
un Hewett & Co. were acting us principals in His Excellency's permissica te pablish and the Honorable the Colonial Ecoretary objection or suggestion, and it was only Committes does not necessarily involve prens, would see fit to make some change. From the contract on which this action taken pless in the value of securities heid form the Governor that I say have to ask many valuable reformes, but His Excellency nor for long afterwards, did you offer any oat, however, that the abandonment of the own motion, end enlightened by the pablic some of the cargo was unsold the owner
the transzmin.
Other evidence having been taken the the abandonment of ail enquiry into the official and 038 unofficial member were expenditure of the colony. You then pro- withdrawn. The Committee was leas un- oned to review the circumstances which led wieldy but still wrongly composed. If the of Council have prevailed over the views of official members exclusive of the Chairman, up to the attempts that have been made to
entilled to
was not in strict accordance with the terms appoint a Committee, and that base fol the officials, and it either side
The relativo strength of parlies remained bure a majority ou the Committee of of the justcuction of the Secretary of State. I loved them, and for ecdelado by according I abould have served. As it was none of i caso was adjourned.
the tomo 11-I enquiry and to make their views prevail, it His Excellency did not, and does not, think me the permission I asked for, to publish objections were met by the change. is surely that which thinka an enquiry ooit likely that the Secretary of State intend the whole of the correspondence on the ecary, and desires to prek it to the fallent ad his phrase of one or two other Govern subject, and by aquesting me to let you extent,
and not that ride that bas always ment officers to be so rigidly interpreted as have at an early date, kud in triplicate, by real intention was probably carried out by Right Honourable the Secretary of State Possed publia and independent enquiry as to forbid the appointment of three, and the representation I may desire to make to the uueseanry and inopportune.
May further point out that in my ham- the appointments actually made. Bot de. for the Colonies. ble opinion it can be so possible advantage siring to obviate all possible objection on
rity by
more.
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us taken to enrry out Ilis Lordship'a instracting, and with the teilers which has attended them; and he directs me to invite you to sabuit any representation on the sub- fect which you may wish to ho sousidered Ir view of by the Searetary of late.
the
vain,
Argument, he would. I presume, walore. When the matter was referred to in contemplated by is Excellenes, and bearonsiderable delay which has already th*** taako tuy recommendations nonétat of the Hong kung community of the with the notion of the Ministers in the
your notes of 28th and 29th ultime, and my replies, if it should become desirable, whish I fant s're His Excellency will ant refuse. I remain, yours very truly,
(Signed) T. H. Warrentzat.
TE TO DON, T. H. WHITENKAN. Craigieburn, August 5th, 1893. Sir.-The Governor desiros me to ae- knowledge the receipt of your letter of the Zud inst. in reply to mind of the 29: ult. in respect to the constitution of the Re- trenchment Committee.
-Your letter contains sovoral points
desires me thereforo to ask you to be
not evident, that the appointment of a Com wittee would afford the best, if not the only, The deeretary of State means of bringing them under the notice of the Government. decided that a Committee should be ap. pointed, over which the Colonial Secretary or the Chief Jasties might preside with one or two other Government officers and certain Unofficial Meniere of the Council na leagues.'
the
-
have always opposed a publio and independ-whee all the necessary arrangements had ent enquiry. On appeal to the Saoretary been completed that yon cumplained to His of State the views of the unofficial members Excellensy that the appointment of three
of State,
Lo
sentation.
Cate
The
3. 'I. M. O'BRIEN, Colonial Secretary.
HON T. H WHITZARAU TO COLONIAL MACBETARY-
Hoogkong, 26th Angust, 1893. Honourable G. T. M. O'Brien. C.. G., Colonial Secretary.
Sir, I have the honour to acknowledge. But it must be ad-
It w
official member only had been withdrews,
may say here that your attack on the community generally because of the on Commissions and Committees they have been urgent to pray for le anfounded and alleged unwillingnese of members to serve
and August Master to be transmitted to bir
W. Den Vasur and, iu order that they may Grenfell, member of Parliament for Here- reach the Hongkong Community, to His fordshire, has applied for the Stewardship
Liberal and a Home Ruler, but he does no Excellenes the present toreraoz of the Ce-of the Chittora Hundreds. Mr Grenfell ine loxy.-I have, etc.
the proposed retention of the Irish approve of wembare in the Imperial Parliament, and sa
Sten (Signed)
The Earl of Bombery, K.G., &o, &o, &c.
SUPREME COURT.
YUI CHEONG 801 EL CUAN.
NEWS BY THE CANADIAN
THE FREE FIGHT IN THE ROUSE OF COMMONE
he cannot support this clause of the Home Bale Bill, be wishes to retire from Parlia mant.
London, Ang, 3-In the House of Cam- nons to-day, Sir Ellis Ashmead Bartlett, Conservative member for the Ecclesall Division of Sheffield, asked the Government whether, since the stoppage of the free minting of silver in ladis, there had been, As stated, a depreciation in the value of securities held in England to the amount of was not Insufficient to the monetary require- ments of trade, and what measure the Government proposed to take to avert Spaccial crisis? £139,000,000; whether the supply of gold
Mr Gladstone replied that ho did not know how to ascertain the truth of the ortion that a dealine to the amount mentioned had
in England. He did not love that the supply of gold was issullicient for trade requirements, and he could not announos measures to avert a ecisis that bu did not believe would occur.
London, Aug, 4.-lu the lease of Com. mous to-day Bir. Ellis Acucad Beetlest asked the Government, if the British war ahips in Siamese waters had been wilh drawn without the lisaite of the blockade of the Manam River under directions from the French Admiral commanding the block
toud cheers
do
The Rad flost, undez comu
Lenton, July 31--Mr Gladstone, raplyading squadron. He further asked if any Parliamentary Reotetary of 8. I regret that I have not been able bujost. The Trossary Frauds Enquirying to a question asked by hir John Lloyd British warships remained at Bangkek. Bir
the Foreign athera are proof to the contrary. The Ripon Division of Yorkshire, which ques en an enquiry of this nature that the Cou-yeur part, His Excellency consented to re- to dissatangle your very long and very the Quarantine Commission, and many Wharton, Conservative member for the wurd said in reply that ne
from the blockade limits. Their removal conflict that ccerred in the House last for the withdrawal of the British warships. on which you appear to His Excellency to
muistion is so canstituted that there is a produce the number of the Committee by the complicated statement, and to prepare s
a warning to all interested in the retrench- be in error, but with a view to the Residents of further delay in the settle bability of equal division of opinion on many withdrawal of one official, and oue unoffeial reply to the very serious charges there! Po Leang Kek onquiry was a failure, sed 100 was prompted by the hand-to-hand and had been made by the French Admiral
were so good be to allot me I have ment saquiry, because a majority was Thursday night, said that doubiles taent of the practicst question whether or piata, and concoquent inability to take member. This course presented the lean brought egalost us, within the wosk FOC
which it was constituted, enquiry, who the House and in the interests of good have been permitted by Her Majesty's Go- no the Betrenchment Committee appointed action. The object of the Committee is en difficulty because one unoffimal Member, Mr
buat retrenchment and the Eatrenchment
THE NAVAL MANŒUVRES. by him is to commence its enquiry, he gairs prehensive enquiry to use the Keswick, had expressed & desire to be re- taken time to reperuse of the eceres- rairains for the present from catering into words of the Right Honorable the Beuretary lived from serving. His Excellency was oon.pondence on the sabject, and may utteranens appointed on it opposed to the object for would be for the general convenigade of outside the limits; he added, would over
afficing all departments in the teased in his opinion of the propriety of the
Loudon, Aug 4.-The sham bailles be-: any discussion of them.
service.
The party favoring enquiry ought step by an intimation from the Chief Justice Committee, and I think I shall now be atla thought enquiry superduenu and needless, ardor, if an arrangement should be arrived vernment. This statement was greeted with position on that enquiry. Your illustration Opposition might ail us opposite sides of the two fleets that have been 3.E. directa me to inform you that have, if this is to be the prime objest of that he considered a Committee of six un to satisfy the public and the Secretary of And because the Chai:man was the very at by means of which the supporters of j
manouvring of the Irish coast ended he is unable to adopt your muggestion that Committee, the power to direct and push duly large, and time the dilkkoully of getting) State that your very personal and vere (last man who ought to have been in that the Governosat and the members of the i
uught 12. I have refused to serve on the had no power in the matter.
My Willino Hunter, Liberal member for to-day. The dual engagement was fought he should telegraph to the Secretary of the Stats for permission to add Mr Eda's name this enquiry to its almost limits, instead of so many members together would reaut; in direct attack on so is wholly without is, I ner afraid, rather an unfortausta one, the House. Air Gladstone added that he tweed
to be held responsible for the failure on Retrenchment Committee as appointed by their being a majority who have always op- the inordinate protraction of the enquiry. Justification, alan that it is not I whe to those of the existing members; it is not posed enquiry sud dasm it inopportune and That he was fully justified in this view is
the Office. for a moment likely that the Becretary of Bisto would not on a telegram of such a successory, or an equality of votes tanding shewn by the experience of the Polong the instructions of 100 Celonial Ostery Hie Ezediency because it is not the North Aberdeen, then asked if Mr Glad of South Stack. Early this morning heavy
4.-I have no desite to address Har independaus Committee asked for arabistone had taken into consideration the firing was heard by those on whore stad of only four members besides
cil and by the public. The object of the
committed by members on Thursday even. Sght was witnessed by many persons who nature without the fullest explanation as to to neutralise and stop all effective action. Kuk Committee, which, though it
It is with very deep regret that I find mysisted why any difficulty bad occurrad is givalf ecopelled to agree with Elis Kosor the the Chairman, took over a year, with Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for wously by the nuoficial members of Coon- | injury done the banor and dignity of the cagnpuading lasted for several hours. The Effect to his instructions: the GayeraDE| Chief Justice that there are and will be assistance of a shorthand writer, the Colonies on the subject. My position Committes, su asked for by the public, stains of Commene, and if the messuite | warebips were at close quarters and the
not only to recommend, but to enquire, punishment being inflicted upon the offen- of the firing. sides. It is the essential condition of all to record some 170 pages of evidense and is fully explained lu this correspondence, Buod as lo stato finally whether, or 30, Yos fren government that there should be par- furnish its report, giving a result of stout I have no doubt His Excellezey will forward as conceded by the Susretary of Stato, is ing were to be allowed to pass without had been attracted shorewards by the noise ties, and the persistent opposition of the half a page a day. The desire for the up. it in its entirely to the Right Hou, the take evidence, and report on the fuola of dera? He also inquired what astion would mand of Vies-Admiral Fairfax, was finally will serve on a Committea comisting of the
committee to inquire into and report on Rear-Admiral Fitzroy, and the vessels com of the local aemerapere Committee are of the test importance.
pooing it dispersed and retired toward Holy Chief Justice, as Chairman, Hon. U. Poffcials during the last few years to all pointment of Commissions in Hongkang is Marquee
Please note what the Right Honourable the matter 7
Mr Gladstone replied that he would head. The vistore pursued the fleeing 7004 Chater, yourself, and Mr May. Such a
members of the Commissions, when appoint and io pamphlet shape, will, I vonture tu
hope, justify me in the eyes of the public,
the Marquess of Kipon writes in his
sels and captured masy of them. In fact, answer the questions Lo-mortem, I am very sorry to have put His Excellency ed, to sit.
Share, you point out, teksa a
Mr epirit of the Secretary of State's insiens.inatanon a little more marked.
Henry Labonthors referred to a had the hostilities heen real instead of 6. The Retrenchment Committee having
I have further come to the conclusion In this connection be invites your attento ao much troubls. I thank him very sin tion to the following extract from a letter merely for the bonar dana me in nominating then been reduced to four members, exclu- very prominent part in urging the move despatch of the 21st April which he received yesterday from the Chiefs on this Commission. I should have sive of the Chairman, viz. the Barbour, ment la favour of retrenchment snd in
have additional advantage would be derived from ember for Fulbam, which referred to his easy. The final mannen ended at # Justice, in which he again objects to serve liked to act on it, but I asunat atsistently Master, Mr Chater, yourself, and Mr May, arging the prolatmont of a Committee of that, notwithstanding what has already statement made in the Pal Hall Gazette, make-believe, it could be said that the on a Committee containing a majority of consent to do so. till think an independ-you were still dissatisfied, and you asked aquiry, but I deny in the simplest and been desided in the direction of economy, by a prominent Commervative, Mr Fisher, whole Rad fret fell into the bands of the
eat enquiry desirable and necessary. There that it might be again re-donetitated by the most straightforward manner that
According to the programoms target prat anofficial members of Consci-
сад be an independent engairy of the com. withdrawal of the Harbour Muster, and evor, at any time, given public instituting a comprehensive enquiry aantal on Mr John William Logan, the o'clock in the evening. The end of the The speaker said that he thought it tive follows the end of the manorree, As the same time my 1. bita si prehensive nature desired by tim public, and the substitution of up Unofficial Momber ces of the facility with which large ing all departments in the service, so that Liberal member for South Leicestershire engagement sa seep from Holyhead was a would conduce to a peaceful solation of the After that has been completed the divisions, letter, urge upon Alesars Whitehead and Okater a reconsideration of their objections directed by the Secretary of State, unless at of Council in his place. Your request was economies could be affected, especially in the facta and the paribillies of reduction. He suggested that Me Laga permitica grand apectacle
Governmout to suppose that, retrenchment allowed to elip by,"
prior to dispersing. The A division of to a Committee of four, viz., two unofficial last a majority of the whale Committee are based on the ground that to be of any the cast of establishments, or that I have in the future may be placed on record, to reply to Mr Fisher's statemebl
In these words are my complete jestt- waiter if both the gentlemen addressed the squadrons, etc., will assemble for teapestion deuidedly in favour of enquiry, and of en- practical valus the Committeo must contain said or
Mr Fisher, and pries of Lungs, the Red fleet will semble at Spithead and members and one official member and a Chairman. It seems Lamp that a Commit- quiry is that particular form. I believe, a majority of Uavotal Members. The table one anything to lead either the and thus no opportunity of effecting tee so constitated would give the unoficiel with all respect to the apicion of His Ex-vernor in at a loss to imagine by what pro-in my awa opinion, my presence on a Com members all the advantages which the celloney, and His Honor the Chief Justice, oses of reasoning you can have arrived at mittee of Engairy, or my on-operation in buation. I want an enquiry. think no House origin of the Committee could fairly by hold that the Secretary of State intended to pun-thie autonishing conclusion. It is the more the work, would be of any special value or aquiry can be properly posted and bring to entitle them to, and would be within sede such at enquiry, and that the Commit- extraordinary became a subsequent letter of importance over that of others. You have out all relevant facts unless a majority of Logan, angs and expressed deep regret the B division at Torbag. Theist- both the letter and spirit of the Secretary tee as et present constituted may be within youts shows that you had grasped the fact no justification for such a sistement the Committee are in favour of enquiry for the part so bad taken in the fray.sion of the Dino fest will seek at Puriland the letter but is not within the epirit of His that the Committer would hate no power to bava expressed the strangset opinions at and free from all atverse infucapes, i te thought, he said, that Mr Logso intend, and the D'dirigius in Plymouth Saund, of State's ingiruotions, while at the same
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Comunities would be within the latter and prayers for eaquiry has rendered it in this equalled by the difficulty of inducing the if in the solpon and the publication of the case. The recommendations of such a i be taken if he moved tão appointment of a defeated by the Blue feet commanded
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