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10. In Bechuanaland, where the Treasury annually provides a large portion of the expenditure, the rule explains itself, though, as the vote diminishes with the increase of local revenue,

may be a question for how long it can be practically enforced.

11. But as regards the general Colonial service under this Department, and the continual changes and transfers that take place from oneCrown Colony to another, Lord Granville fears that the rule which their Lordships propose will not conduce to the interests of Her Majesty's service, and that it will be better to limit it to Colonies which receive annual grants from the Imperial Exchequer, to which any saving on the year in con- sequence of the rule will revert.

12. His Lordship is not aware of the circumstances under which officers receive a gratuity on leaving the service, but he observes that gratuities had not previously been taken into account on re-employment, and he would submit to their Lordships whether to introduce the system now may not have the

appearance of re-opening a closed bargain.

am, &c., (Signed)

ROBERT G. W. HERBERT.

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non-effective allowances to accept posts in either class of Colony without either reduction of non-effective allowance or salary, provided that it were made the subject of under- standing between the two Departments, and put upon record as binding on them, that in the event of an officer drawing Imperial non-effective pay being selected for employment in any Colony directly or indirectly aided from the Imperial Exchequer, the Secretary of State will consider with this Board beforchand the amount of the salary which is to be attached to such employment during the tenure of it by such officer.

Mr. Secretary Stanhope will understand that this agreement will not extend to mere casual employment, or to employment in which the salary, added to the non-effective pay, does not exceed 4001, per annum.

Sir R. Herbert, K.C.B., Colonial Office.

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am, &c.,

(Signed)

W. L. JACKSON.

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SIR,

The Secretary to the Treasury.

No. 22.

TREASURY to COLONIAL OFFICE.

THE Lords Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury have had before them

Treasury Chambers, August 10, 1886. Mr. Bramston's letter of the 7th April last,* and its enclosures, as to the conditions of employment of Naval and Military Officers on the active list by Colonial Governments, and direct me to make the following observations thereon, for the information of Mr. Secretary Stanhope.

I. My Lords think it only reasonable, in consenting that the Colonial time of Naval Officers should "count as full sea service," that there should be reserved, by Order in Council, to the Board of Admiralty, a full discretion of determining the precise character of this sea service, in regard to its reckoning for increase of pay, promotion, and retire.

ment.

II. My Lords retain the opinion that Colonial Governments should bear the non- effective charge of the Colonial Service of Naval and Military Officers. If those Govern- ments decline to undertake this liability invariably, whether the officer continues in their service after retirement from the Imperial Service or not, they should at least undertake it in the former event. Supposing, however, that the Secretary of State is not prepared to ask Colonial Governments to bear the charge under any circumstances, my Lords cannot consent to deprive the Imperial Government of the slight relief now afforded by Article 991 of the Pay Warrant of 10 June 1884.

III. Their Lordships are further of opinion that a limit should be placed upon the Colonial time of both Naval and Military Officers that can be allowed in any one case to count towards Imperial pension or as active service in the Imperial Army or Navy; and they consider that this limit should be five years, and have so informed the War Office and Admiralty.

The Under Secretary of State, Colonial Office

SIR,

No. 23.

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am, &c.,

(Signed) R. E. WELBY,

TREASURY to COLONIAL OFFICE.

Treasury Chambers, September 11, 1886.

I AM directed by the Lords Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury to inform you that they have received Mr. Stanhope's communication to them of the appointment of Sir Charles Mitchell to be Governor of Fiji.

They desire to avail themselves of this opportunity to make a proposal to the Secretary of State, which they hope may put an end to the question, which has been for some time at issue between the two Departments, as to the reduction of the salary attaching to the post in an Exchequer-aided Colony which is held by an officer drawing pension, half or retired pay in respect of Imperial service.

pay,

My Lords would not be unwilling to ask Parliament to place Exchequer-aided Colonies on the same footing as self-dependent Colonies, and to leave officers drawing Imperial

* No. 17.

SIR,

No. 24.

COLONIAL OFFICE to TREASURY.

Downing Street, September 18, 1886.

I AM directed by Mr. Secretary Stanhope to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 11th instant,* with reference to the question of the reduction of the salary attaching to the post in an Exchequer-aided Colony which is held by an Officer drawing pension, half pay, or retired pay, in respect of Imperial service.

2. In reply, I am to request that you will state to the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury that Mr. Stanhope accepts their Lordships' proposal to place Exchequer-aided Colonies on the same footing as self-dependent Colonies, and to leave Officers drawing Imperial Non-effective Allowances to accept posts in either class of Colony without either reduction of non-effective allowance or salary, on the understanding that in the event of an Officer drawing Imperial non-effective pay being selected for employment in any Colony directly or indirectly aided from the Imperial Exchequer, the Secretary of State will consider with their Lordships beforehand the amount of the salary which is to bc attached to such employment during the tenure of it by such Officer, it being understood that this agreement will not extend to incre casual employment, or to employ- ment in which the salary added to the non-effective pay does not exceed 4007. per annum. 3. Mr. Stanhope understands the definition "directly or indirectly aided from the Imperial Exchequer to include, as stated in the Treasury letter of the 3rd of April 1886, those Colonies only whose estimates and accounts are subject to the Treasury and the Exchequer and Audit Office.

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The Secretary to the Treasury.

SIR,

JOHN BRAMSTON.

I am, &c., (Signed)

No. 25.

TREASURY to COLONIAL OFFICE.

Treasury Chambers, Octobor 27, 1886, In reply to Mr. Bramaton's letter of the 18th September, respecting the employment by Colonial Governments of officers drawing Imperial non-effective pay, the Lords Commissioners of Her Majesty's Treasury request you to inform Mr. Secretary Stanhope that they are of opinion that this Department should be consulted by the Colonial Office regarding the salaries of such officers if they are employed by any Colony, directly or indirectly aided from the Imperial Exchequer, whose estimates are subject to the control of the Secretary of State, even though those estimates may not also be submitted to the Treasury.

The limitation to Colonies whose estimates are under Treasury control was adopted by this Department when it was intended to make a compulsory reduction of salary. Now, however, that my Lords only ask for a voice in determining the amount of salary, they think the arrangement should extend to all cases in which it is open to the Home Government to fix the salary.

The Under Secretary of State,

Colonial Office.

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um, &c..

(Signed)

C. G. BARRINGTON.

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