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4. Minutes of First Meeting of Typists and Shorthand Writers Grade
Committee on the 12th May, 1921.
5. Minutes of Third Meeting of the Temporary Clerks' Grade Committee
on the 6th May 1921.
5. The Chairman stated that the request from the Staff Side that officers should be furnished with particulars regarding abatements from their salaries in respect of Income Tax had been communicated to the Paymaster-General, but that no reply had yet been received. He also read a memorandum from the Accounts Department expressing regret that, in the state of work in that Department, it was impracticable to supply officers with statements of the exact amounts of their salaries, and pointing out that officers were already in a position to ascertain their emoluments for themselves. He said that the necessary information would, no doubt, be given by the Accounts Department to individuals who were really in doubt as to the amount of their salary, and recommended application to the Öllice of the Paymaster-General for information in regard to income tax assessments. The Staff Side expressed dissatisfaction with this reply, and pointed out that the information asked for was given to the staff in certain other oflices.
6. The Chairman stated that the report of the Library Committee could be communicated to the Council if desired. He explained that the Committee had recommended that, in view of additional duties which it proposed should be given to the Librarian and his staff, the salary of the Librarian should remain at £500 to £600 per annum, and that an additional post of Higher Grade Clerical Officer should be created in the Library. The Treasury had refused to agree to these pro- posals, and were not prepared to sanction a higher rate of salary than £400 to £500 per annum for the Librarian. In their view the post had been overpaid in the past. The Chairman stated that the authorities did not share this view, but expressed his regret that, in the present state of public finances. they felt unable to resist the reduction. He then read the draft of a letter to the Treasury reluctantly acquiescing in the Treasury proposal, and stating that the Secretary of State would reopen the matter at a suitable opportunity.
The Vice-Chairman declared that the Staff Side could accept no responsibility for the Committee, which had been appointed without reference to the Council, nor for its report; nor for the subsequent negotiations with the Treasury, as to which they had not been consulted. He expressed the concern of the Staff Side at the depreciation of the post of Librarian, which was one of the few substantial promotion, and their dissatisfaction at the inability of the authorities Posts offering to resist the reduction, particularly as the reduction was made on grounds which, in the opinion of both sides of the Council, could not be substantiated. The general opinion of the Clerical Staff of the Colonial Office was that they were usually treated unfairly by the authorities and the Treasury. Experience had shown that matters relating to the administrative class had been promptly and favourably dealt with, and those relating to the Clerical Staff prejudiced by delay and unfavourable discrimination. This had been the case with the reorganization_of the administrative and the clerical staffs respectively. He contended further that if economy was to be applied, it should be applied to the staff generally, and not to any particular class. The office staff had not been dealt with justly and equitably. He asked that a detailed statement should be presented to the Council showing for each member of the Administrative and Clerical Staff the changes in scale and in actual salary due to reorganization, assimilation, etc., and the lump sums paid. In reply, the Chairman pointed out that this information could be obtained from Whitaker's Almanack, the Colonial Office List, Civil Service Estimates, and similar publications. This, the Vice-Chairman declared, was not possible, and he claimed. that a full official statement should be presented to the Council, and published in the Office Bulletin. The Chairman declared this unnecessary. the Vice-Chairman's remarks as an accurate statement of the position.
He could not accept
7. Mr. Kennedy communicated to the Council a letter from the Secretary of the Clerical Officers Association, on the subject of the promotion of clerical officers.
and asked permission to defer bringing the question forward.
8. The Chairman stated that the resolution passed at the last meeting by the Staff Side on the delay in bringing into force the Reorganization Scheme had been forwarded to the Treasury, but no information was yet available as to the date on which this scheme would come into force.
9. The Chairman stated that a letter had been received from the Treasury sanctioning generally the scheme for the reorganization of the Typing Staff, hit
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Minutes of First Meeting of Typists and Shorthand Writers Grade Committee on the 12th May. 1921.
Minutes of Third Meeting of the Temporary Clerks' Grade Committee on the 6th May 1921.
The Chairman stated that the request from the Staff Side that officers e furnished with particulars regarding abatements from their salaries in of Income Tax had been communicated to the l'aymaster-General, but that had yet been received. He also read a memorandum from the Accounts ent expressing regret that, in the state of work in that Department, it was cable to supply officers with statements of the exact amounts of their and pointing out that officers were already in a position to ascertain their nts for themselves. He said that the necessary information would, no given by the Accounts Department to individuals who were really in to the amount of their salary, and recommended application to the Office aymaster-General for information in regard to income tax assessments. Side expressed dissatisfaction with this reply, and pointed out that the ion asked for was given to the staff in certain other offices.
The Chairman stated that the report of the Library Committee could be ated to the Council if desired. He explained that the Committee had ided that, in view of additional duties which it proposed should be given rarian and his staff, the salary of the Librarian should remain at £500 to annum, and that an additional post of Higher Grade Clerical Officer created in the Library. The Treasury had refused to agree to these id were not prepared to sanction a higher rate of salary than £400 to £500 pro- 1 for the Librarian. In their view the post had been overpaid in the past. rman stated that the authorities did not share this view, but expressed his it in the present state of public finances, they felt unable to resist the He then read the draft of a letter to the Treasury reluctantly ig in the Treasury proposal, and stating that the Secretary of State would e matter at a suitable opportunity.
Vice-Chairman declared that the Staff Side could accept no responsibility ommittee, which had been appointed without reference to the Council, nor burt; nor for the subsequent negotiations with the Treasury, as to which not been consulted. He expressed the concern of the Staff Side at the.. on of the post of Librarian, which was one of the few nooks
posts offering
1 promotion, and their dissatisfaction at the inability of the authorities he reduction, particularly as the reduction was made on grounds which, nion of both sides of the Council, could not be substantiated. The general f the Clerical Staff of the Colonial Office was that they were usually fairly by the authorities and the Treasury. Experience had shown that lating to the administrative class had been promptly and favourably , and those relating to the Clerical Staff prejudiced by delay and ble discrimination. This had been the case with the reorganization of istrative and the clerical staffs respectively. He contended further that
was to be applied, it should be applied to the staff generally, and not to ular class. The office staff had not been dealt with justly and equitably. hat a detailed statement should be presented to the Council showing for er of the Administrative and Clerical Staff the changes in scale and in ry due to reorganization, assimilation, etc., and the lump sums paid. In Chairman pointed out that this information could be obtained from Almanack, the Colonial Office List, Civil Service Estimates, and similar s. This, the Vice-Chairman declared, was not possible, and he claimed official statement should be presented to the Council, and published in ulletin. The Chairman declared this unnecessary.
He could not accept
airman's remarks as an accurate statement of the position.
Kennedy communicated to the Council a letter from the Secretary of Officers Association, on the subject of the promotion of clerical officers, ermission to defer bringing the question forward.
› Chairman stated that the resolution passed at the last meeting by the
n the delay in bringing into force the Reorganization Scheme had been
o the Treasury, but no information was yet available as to the date on cheme would come into force.
Chairman stated that a letter had been received from the Treasury generally the scheme for the reorganization of the Typing Staff, but
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