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the Committee to intimate that they cannot prolong my employment beyond the stipulated term, I venture to hope that the Committee can meet my request in the fullest way.

I could, of course, help in suggesting for preliminary notices by circular, names of the many people oversea with whom I have come into personal touch, and who have friends at home they would like to send to see the paintings.

If it were the wish of the Committee, I should also be happy to assist-I should, indeed, be glad to be asked to do so-both in the selection of illustrations for the Committee's own publications and in the arrangements for the proposed exhibition, as my enthusiasm has naturally grown with the progress of my work.

Thanking you for your long and kind interview on Monday last,

Sir Charles Lucas, K.C.M.G., C.B.

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MY DEAR LUCAS,

No 31.

I am, &c.,

A. HUGH FISHER.

MR. M. E. SADLER to SIR C. LUCAS.

(Received 13th August, 1910.)

Eastwood, Weybridge, 12th August, 1910. I ENCLOSE a letter received to-day from Struthers. Could you get Mackinder to recommend anyone who might give the lectures? Far the best thing would be for him to give at any rate one of the lectures himself, not only at each of the Scotch centres, but at Liverpool and Birmingham if we could arrange courses there. He might also suggest someone who would carry on the rest of the course.

Before writing to Birmingham and Liverpool I should like to know what I can say on these heads and also what would be the fee for each of the lectures.

MY DEAR SADLER,

Enclosure in No. 31.

Scotch Education Department,

Yours, &c.,

M. E. SADLER.

Dover House, Whitehall, 10th August, 1910.

I PROPOSE Writing (as soon as I get the necessary information) to each of the Provincial Committees for the Training of Teachers in Scotland putting before them the desirability of having an experimental course of lectures, such as Mr. Mackinder proposes to give in London, arranged for the winter session. It would be of great importance if Mackinder, or somebody in whom he has confidence as a reasonably effective substitute, could arrange to give one or two of the lectures at each of the four centres-Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee, and Aberdeen: there- after I have no doubt we could arrange to got some suitable person to complete the course.

I shall inform the Committees that, in view of the importance of this form of instruction, we shall regard the whole cost of providing sets of slides and delivering the lectures as part of the normal expenditure of the training colleges, to be met in the usual way.

I am afraid I know so little of the English Midlands and the North of England that I cannot hope to be of any service in arranging courses of lectures in these districts.

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No. 32.

Yours, &c.,

J. STRUTHERS.

DEAR Mr. FISHER,

SIR C. LUCAS to MR. A. HUGH FISHER.

Downing Street, 12 August, 1910. THANK you for your letter of the 10th,* which sets out very clearly the sub- stance of our conversation. I will see that you have an opportunity of appearing

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before the Committee early in October, and that your letter is circulated to the members beforehand.

Yours, &c.,

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No. 33.

C. P. LUCAS.

SIR C. LUCAS to MR. H. J. MACKINDER, M.P.

[Answered by No. 34,]

MY DEAR MACKINDER,

CHAMBERLAIN being away, I am writing to you direct. I enclose copies of

Downing Street, 18 August, 1910. correspondence* with Struthers and Sadler, which you ought to see.

I went over

to see Struthers and agreed to his suggestions; there was in fact no alternative. This means that it will be for you to make the first advances to the publishers, when you come home.

With regard to Sadler's letters, I am sorry to trouble you while on holiday, but should be glad of your advice generally, and in particular as to the selection of the lecturer and the fees to be charged for delivering the lectures.

I shall be going away after the 3rd of September till the end of the month, but shall not be out of England.

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No. 34.

Yours, &c..

C. P. LUCAS.

MR. H. J. MACKINDER, M.P., to SIR C. LUCAS. (Received 28 August, 1910.)

MY DEAR LUCAS,

Pension Waldeck, Waldhaus-Flims, 25 August, 1910.

I HAVE your letter of the 15th instant, forwarded by Chamberlain, also

copies of your correspondence with Struthers and Sadler.

2. I am willing to give the opening lecture at the six named centres, viz., Edinburgh, Glasgow, Dundee, Aberdeen, Liverpool, and Birmingham, on the fol- lowing conditions:-

(a) that my expenses are paid;

(b) that I am allowed a suitable fee;

(c) that the dates are arranged to suit my convenience and, in any case, before Parliament meets on 15th November. I have a good many engage-

ments of one kind and another already made. dates at present open in my diary;

Enclosed is a list of

(d) that a suitable man is chosen, locally, to continue the course, who would attend my opening lecture. There ought to be no difficulty in obtain- ing a suitable man in each of these great educational centres. Only

a good delivery, interest in the subject, and some care are needed. Of course he must realisé our aim, and sympathise with it.

3. As regards cost, there would be:-

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(a) £50 for a set of slides. Could this be shared in any way? Only the

local people can say.

(b) The fee to the local lecturer, and the cost of the lantern and lanternist.

These would be matters of local arrangement.

(c) My fee is normally 10 guineas for a lecture, and, if I go far, my expenses. But I am keen to get this scheme going, and if it would help matters, I would take 6 guineas each for the six lectures, and my expenses.

I cannot undertake to group the lectures into one or more circuits and so economise in expenses, but, of course, I would do what I could in this way.

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Nos. 28, 29 and 31.

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