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Capt. Templeton, through the Court, asked witness how he could presume to prevent the Chinese from going down the for castle, in the face of the Chief Officer's orders.
After a long pause, witness said that the forecastle was their place of living, and he considered it their property.
Capt. Thomsett remarked that there was no question about that; but here was a case where a lot of Chinamen had to be taken care of in a gale, and it would be uncharitable not to a allow them down the forecastle, which the sailors and firemen could not occupy themselves, having to go to their duty on deck.
Witness repeated that the forecastle was their property and they had a right to it, Be did not know that any Chinese got down without paying,
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William Sima, an able scaman on board the Gleniyon, stated that he joined her in London, He recollected the ship's arrival at Singapore, and her departure for Hong- kong. A lot of Chinese came on board with their baggage; they stowed it them- selves principally, and on the batch way. They lashed it themselves with ropes. Witness did not help securing it for them. He recollected meeting with a gale of wind on the 30th. Witness heard no orders to allow the Chinese into the chart room, engine room &co. The only orders he heard were by the mate that they should be taken off the deck. They went into the forecastle, chart room, captain's sabin ; some were in the engine room witness belieřeti, While the men
below #ituess was busily engaged in throwing their luggage overboard,
as it washing about, endangering the crew's lives. The crew agreed amongst themselves, when the gale was blowing hard, to let ⠀ their berths at $4 a head, and Bergers collected the money. There were about 100 Chiness down there altogether. Wit- nees received $7 as his share of the money. There was only one hatchway down the forecastle, Witness believed that after collecting from about 20 men, the forecastle was left to the Chinese, as the crew bad to go on deck.
Witness did not go down to the forecastle during the gale. Dering the gale witness saw two Chinese lying dead on deck abaft the engine-room sky- light. The bodies were thrown overboard. One of the crew named George Key was wusbed overboard; he saw a Chinaman in the water, whether he jumped overboard or was washed overboard he could not say, Witness knew of no other death. Witness did not hear of any rumours of men having been washed overboard. When witness was below the forecastle, about 20 Chinese came down, and Bergers collected money from them; how much witness did not know. While witness was below, he saw several come down who did not pay- could not get it from them. When witness left to go on deck there were about 25 Chinese below. Eleven men were to share the proceeds of the lettings, and witness received $7. He saw those 25 men in the forecastle bring their luggage into the fore- exatle. Witness wont back into the fore- castle on Saturday morning, the Chinese having all left the forecastle. Witness con- sidered he had a right to let his bank because he had his bed there and it might ⠀ be spoiled. There were 15 bunks in this part of the forecastle. His bed was spoiled. There were two men in his bunk, The bunks were only let during the gale and not for the voyage. When witness went | down on Saturday, he saw quito 60 Chinese on his side of the forecastle; they were jammed in wherever they could get.
Bu Aon, aged 38 years, and a native of Hainan, stated that he embarked from Singapore. He went there from Malacca, where he had been for more than ten years. He and nineteen others went from Malacos to Singapore to find a steamer to Hongkong. He paid his passage money to the master of a Hong. He and the 19 others went on board the steamer on the 28th Oct. The typhoon came on the 29th. (Capt. Thom- Bett observed that with the witness the typhoon might have come on on the 29th, but with the sailors, it might not be on till the 30th). He had his luggage with him. He was on deck and his luggage consisted
of a pillow box, which contained $47.45. When the typhoon was blowing, he lay on his face on deck. The 19 men who came with him to Hongkong all landed in Hong- kong. He saw four or five Chinese washed overboard during the gale. He was sea- sick. He did not know any of those whom he saw washed overboard. One of those washed overboard was a native of Sunning, and one of Fokien and the two others were Chiuchew men. Witness saw one man jump overboard after the ship had dropped anchor in harbour. He did not see any one jump overboard during the galo. Those he saw washed overboard were quite dead when they were washed overboard. saw this himself, nobody told him of it. Witness here said that the four men were not dead when they were washed overboard, but that they died after being washed over- board. (This discrepancy was ascribed to the witness not understanding the first question properly). Witness did not go
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down; he tried to, but was kicked by some of the orew. Ife tried to get into the engine room. He did not see or know that any Chinese were in the engine room. He saw no dead bodies on deck. He did not bring bis pillow box ashore, because one of the firemen had taken it from him, on the 29th, while he was resting his face and head on it. The fireman took it be- low. He complained to the captain of his losa, but whether the captain understood him or not, he could not say. The captain He was standing on deck aft at the time. reported this to the captain on the 4th in Hongkong.
Captain Thomeett thought it impossible for a man soa-sick as the witness was to have distinguished the four men washed overboard in the way he did. He might have seen four men washed overboard, but he could not particularise them.
Mr May imagined that it was possible for the witness to particularise them, as he had been speaking to them before they were washed overboard.
Witness was then asked when he had spoken to the men prior to their being washed overboard, and he replied that be had spoken to them off and on since the departure from Singapore until the typhoon came on. All the men remained on deck, none were taken down. There were about five women and two children among the passengers, and they remained on deck Among the four washed overboard one was a chill. The gale lasted three days, and during all this while, the whole of the pas sengera remained on deck. The man who jumped overboard while in the harbour was the man who stabbed another and then jumped overboard,
The Captain believed that the matter had been brought to the notice of the Police. He believed the Chinaman who jumped overboard bad swam ashore, as the ship was close to the wharf.
Wm. Bergers, quarter-master on board the Glenlyon stated that he had been at sex 11 years; he was on board the Glentyon when she left Singapore. A gale of wind came on on the 30th; it commenced that day. There was a number of Chinese pas sengers on deck. The forecastle was filled with binamon, they came down on the afternoon of the 30th. When he was in the forecastle, there were about 35 of them there; how many went down afterwards he could not say. He understood that the captain had given the men permission to allow the Chinese down if the crew liked. The captain and mate did not tell him of this personally, but he heard it from the men. The crow met at the forecastle in the afternoon, and it was agreed to allow the Chinese to occupy their berths, if they would give $4 or $5 a bead. Witness col- lected some of the money; he collected for the forecastle. A quarter-master named Frost witness believed accepted money from the Chinese for occupation of the chart room. The Chinese were down first, and witness went round to collect the money; some paying $2, some $5, and one paid $10 for allowing his sick boy and himself to go down a great many paid nothing. Wit ness was not on deck during the 31st, bav- ing been injured at 4 a m. He was in the mate's cabiu; the mate picked him up and put him there. Witness did not return to
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